They already put up a barrier in the River. You don't even need to vote for Trump for that to happen. But, Biden wants that barrier removed too.
Who said Biden's border policies are working besides that dingdong KJP?
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They already put up a barrier in the River. You don't even need to vote for Trump for that to happen. But, Biden wants that barrier removed too.
No, they didn't. The barrier is on the US side of the river.
come on man. Work with me here. I am trying to be civil, but you are making it hard.
I see where the agency has authority. I see where unlawful crossers are subject to the lawful pathways rule, which affects asylum eligibility.
I do not see a requirement to disassemble physical barriers wherever a migrant touches US would in order to begin the immigration process.
Because when they reach those barriers, they are already in the country. Exactly what border patrol said in what I posted.
Do you want these people shot on sight? Great. Contact your congressperson and demand they change the laws.
No. I want them to struggle along the physical border until they reach an official crossing point where they can be processed. This is possible within the current laws. Then preferably go back to whence they came until approved or denied.
I will say it again.
Look at the video that was posted of the barbed wire on the bank of the US side of the river. Those people on the other side were on US soil. Our current laws say that they have to be processed.
THAT IS THE CURRENT LAW. It was the law under trump. It is the law under Biden.
Change the laws or challenge them in court. Your feelings about it are not relevant.
Not feelings. They can walk along that barbed wire until they reach an access point, then be processed. That’s within the law. We don’t have to remove physical impediments the minute they touch US soil.
Trump had the border situation under control like the boss he is and thats a fact that lefties will never be able to get around.
Border apprehensions went up every year under trump until 2020 when covid hit. In fact, in 2019 (trump's third year in office), border apprehensions doubled from the previous year.
Using TI mouthbreather logic... can you imagine how many rapists and drug dealers we DIDNT catch crossing the border) in 2019 under trump?
What a failure!
You know what it is.............FAKE NEWS!!Border apprehensions went up every year under trump until 2020 when covid hit. In fact, in 2019 (trump's third year in office), border apprehensions doubled from the previous year.
Using TI mouthbreather logic... can you imagine how many rapists and drug dealers we DIDNT catch crossing the border) in 2019 under trump?
What a failure!
Show me anywhere in our immigration laws that states that the Border Patrol must cut barbed wire that has been installed by the state of Texas with the consent of the landowner. Tell me which president supported letting Title 42 to lapse which was working very well? Convince me that this is nothing more than Biden working to get more votes in the upcoming presidential election! Of course immigration laws need to be changed but not in the way the Dems want them to change. We have legal ports of entry in the U.S. Those that are entering illegally through other areas are generally those that have paid money to the cartel to help them enter illegally and a great number of them are carriers of illegal drugs that are killing Americans. The current president and his administration are co-conspirators in this travesty.
There is one answer to your data above - figures don't lie but liars figure. Using your logic, it is okay for the Biden administration to do a horrible job on the border situation because I have some data that indicates that Trump didn't do as much as he could have done. Trump lost the next election, nytigerfan, so there is nothing he can do now. Truly DemBorder apprehensions went up every year under trump until 2020 when covid hit. In fact, in 2019 (trump's third year in office), border apprehensions doubled from the previous year.
Using TI mouthbreather logic... can you imagine how many rapists and drug dealers we DIDNT catch crossing the border) in 2019 under trump?
What a failure!
logic to everything political. That's like a football lineman saying I don't have to play hard and block because I checked and found that there were linemen in the past that didn't block well either!!!
I don't blame you!! You truly don't have an answer for the disaster that is our border and even a lot of Dems are starting to realize that this is a losing proposition for them in 24 along with horrible crime, etc. Have a good day, nytigerfan!!!
Except I was replying to this false statement from growls...
Trump had the border situation under control like the boss he is and thats a fact that lefties will never be able to get around.
Please try to keep up.
And you still cannot provide an answer to what specific laws biden is not enforcing at the border.
Just keep parroting those right wing talking points like a good little boy,
So you believe that everything that is happening at the border is completely legal and he is not breaking any laws?
Oh, I am way ahead of you which is very easy. Keep using your cute little statements because like all liberals it helps you keep from facing obvious truths. THE BORDER IS OUT OF CONTROL. IT IS ILLEGAL (AGAINST THE LAW) TO ENTER THE U.S. AT ANY AREA OTHER THAN A LEGAL PORT OF ENTRY!!
I'll ask you again... what law is he breaking? What law is he not enforcing?
You have posted about 15 times in this thread that he is breaking laws. Yet you are unable to cite one law he is breaking. Your feelings don't count. **** your feelings.
I’ve been reading these threads but have been quiet.
My conclusion is that we have alot of idiots in this country who can’t see what’s happening and spin everything to align with their socialist views.
You and flo are two of them.
I can’t believe that you all would actively engage in a discussion about immigration and think that everything is ok.
Then Flo comes out and makes it a racist issue. I’m brown, and believe we need to uphold the laws of this country. I also believe more reform is needed as immigration is out of control and is causing significant damage to our country.
Is this considered racist? Asking for all of us that were called racist for not wanting illegal immigration.
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We simply do not have the infrastructure to accommodate a mass migration.
Imagine living somewhere your whole life, paying 30% - 40% of your lifes work (taxes) into building a community only to have a group of people come in and start committing crime and using the social services that you have worked hard to build.
Thank you for pointing out that this is not racist, as so many of us were called, for being opposed to illegal immigration.
I can’t believe that you all would actively engage in a discussion about immigration and think that everything is ok.
Please show me where I said "everything at the border is OK". I have stated many, many times that our laws need to be amended. Congress needs to do that. FACTS.
Can you please enlighten me as to what my socialist views are?
I recommend you remain quiet in the future if you are incapable of having a fact-driven debate. We have enough people on here throwing up their feelings all over the board.
Don't agree with the wall. I absolutely agree with updating the asylum request laws.
I recommend you contact your congressperson and demand that they take action.
AOC is wrong for multiple reasons. According to federal regulation, anyone who crosses the border illegally is subject to criminal prosecution. As is the case in criminal proceedings – regardless of the immigration status of the criminal offender – the individual being prosecuted will be transferred to federal criminal custody for breaking United States law. Asylum or DACA status does not automatically protect an illegal immigrant from prosecution or deportation under the law. They are still, in fact, illegal immigrants until a court reviews their case and deems they have cause.
Options like asylum and DACA are loopholes in the normal legal framework that allow migrants to defer potential prosecution, and Democrats have facilitated the abuse of these loopholes. The immigration laws have not changed, the Biden Administration chooses not to enforce them and blue states choose to interfere with immigration enforcement. In fact, Biden has been actively using Border Patrol agents and the National Guard, not to catch and arrest migrants slipping into the US, but to process them and relocate them into the US faster.
The laws are already on the books, my friend.
Hello my friend! (and @scotchtiger)
That is absolute bullshit, allow me to prove it to you.
Under current US law, EVERY illegal immigrant that reaches US soil must be processed. EVERY ONE. Those people are either deported or granted asylum.
Asylum is NOT a loophole, it is part of the laws.
Now allow me to prove this to you...
In May 2023, Biden introduced "Circumvention of Legal Pathways". He tried to make it HARDER for immigrants arriving at the southern border to seek asylum. He wanted to deny asylum to anyone that did not use a legal pathway.
Specifically, this rule establishes a presumptive condition on asylum eligibility for certain noncitizens who fail to take advantage of the existing and expanded lawful pathways [18] to enter the United States, including the opportunity to schedule a time and place to present at a POE, and thus seek asylum or other forms of protection in a lawful, safe, and orderly manner, or to seek asylum or other protection in one of the countries through which they travel on their way to the United States.
However, this was struck down by a federal judge because it VIOLATED EXISTING US LAW.
A federal judge has blocked the Biden administration's new rules for asylum-seekers at the U.S.-Mexico border.
U.S. District Judge Jon Tigar in Oakland, Calif., found the rules unlawful because they impose conditions on asylum-seekers that Congress did not intend.
Tigar wrote that "noncitizens who enter between ports of entry, using a manner of entry that Congress expressly intended should not affect access to asylum."
CONGRESS MUST CHANGE THE LAWS.
When you cross the border illegally, you are a criminal. You can be processed criminally for breaking the law.
As is the case in criminal proceedings – regardless of the immigration status of the criminal offender – the individual being prosecuted will be transferred to federal criminal custody for breaking United States law. Asylum or DACA status does not automatically protect an illegal immigrant from prosecution or deportation under the law. They are still, in fact, illegal immigrants until a court reviews their case and deems they have cause.
I wouldn't put it past him to be a member of a cartel.
He's a mental midget. How does ANY natural born citizen of this country not realize what is happening is an "unarmed" invasion enabled by this current administration?
Illegal border crossers are getting more in dollars a month than veterans and people who paid into social security all their lives.
nytiger will reach his ultimate demise because he didn't have a gag reflex and Joe stuck it too far down his throat.
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I bring facts. Yall bring feelings.
It's no wonder our nation is in decline with people like yourself procreating.
You are full of shit. Sorry about your feelings, my friend.
"This method involves the use of asylum status as a modifier - In other words, if an illegal immigrant declares they require asylum, regardless of evidence that they actually qualify, they are automatically "legal." Therefore, the millions of people that sneak across the US border every year while breaking numerous federal and state laws are absolved through the magical baptism of asylum status."
"Asylum status requires court review, and with record numbers of migrants crossing the border each year (2.76 million in 2022 and 2023 is set to surpass that number) the wait time is two years to as long as four years. In the meantime, Democrats are trying to achieve general amnesty for millions of embedded illegals, giving them access to welfare programs, giving them access to state licenses and work permits and in the end making their status review meaningless."
27 Bus loads arrive in Chicago this week. Chicago is building tent cities for the immigrants. Wonder how that is going to work out for them come winter time? It's brutally cold. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
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