It's not my fault you didn't know who Dionysus was and assumed it was Jesus. If you thought that blue guy was the son of God, maybe you don't know him all that well, either.
Why are closing ceremonies so weird
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You can take the artistic director's word for it or not but he said it was not meant to depict the Last Supper.
"The opening ceremony’s artistic director, Thomas Jolly, said at the Games’ daily news conference on Saturday that the event was not meant to “be subversive, or shock people, or mock people.” On Sunday, Anne Descamps, the Paris 2024 spokeswoman, said at the daily news conference, “If people have taken any offense, we are, of course, really, really sorry.”
Mr. Jolly said on Sunday that he had not been inspired by “The Last Supper.”
“It is Dionysus who arrives at the table,” Mr. Jolly said in a television interview with the French media outlet BFMTV. Dionysus is the Greek god of festivities and wine, and is the father of Sequana, the goddess of the Seine River, he said. “The idea was instead to have a grand pagan festival connected to the gods of Olympus, Olympism,” he added."
Olympic ‘Last Supper’ scene was in fact based on painting of Greek gods, say art experts
Dutch artist’s 17th-century work said to have inspired tableau that has offended Christian and conservative critics
Dude are you lost? They mocked Gods last supper! Don't question my faith when I'm a born again CHRISTIAN and yes it was a total mockery of Jesus .
It was a mockery of the Last Supper. It’s easy to put out a presser after the fact! I don’t understand how people can defend an act of evil but I guess it’s a part of the times we live in. It’s really sad!!
@Cris_Ard people that are mocking any religion should head to ban island with no return ticket.
Correct me if I’m wrong but if I remember correctly, your dad would probably agree with that statement.
Correct me if I’m wrong but if I remember correctly, your dad would probably agree with that statement.
There's a reason why Paris seen total darkness after The mocked Jesus!!
That’s good b/c facts don’t seem to be your cup of tea.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Go back to YOUR reality!
Damn, next you're gonna tell me that Christmas was just the Church hijacking a pagan holiday or something. Is nothing sacred?
Don't even try to explain that Jesus wasn't born in December either. It blows their minds.
All kidding aside,Churches have done a terrible job teaching Church History and the amount of Ignorance is frankly shocking.
And as a Christian, it's really not that big of a deal. The *why* is much more important imo. Easter is one of my favorite holidays, and most of it actually goes back to the Roman festival celebrating the goddess Eostre. Which is why there's an Easter bunny, and why the holiday falls on a different day - because the original festival was tied to lunar cycles.
Also Christians are the single biggest group in the US and Europe, it's silly to try and act like we're some persecuted minority.
Being Christian is a big deal in politics though unfortunately ☹️
No, but I did get my Undergrad from a Baptist University, and I am on staff at an Upstate Church. I do have some experience and background. I also am shocked at the lack of any Historical Understanding of the Early Church and the versions/translations of the Bible.
Funny enough, my Grandfather did have a Doctor's of Theology degree.
Lots of Ignorance has been fostered by Churches who like being the only source of knowledge, particularly Charismatic Denominations who had uneducated Pastors.
The opening ceremony consisted of a long drawn out drag show of men dressed up in lingerie. What did you expect? As I've said, people who defend the promotion of that stuff are likely individuals who have a hard time fitting in with society or were picked on a lot growing up. They feel like they can relate and lets be honest, they probably enjoy watching that stuff.
It amazes me the amount of time people on here spend bashing other people's religion. Either you have an agenda or you just want to be an asshole. Which one is it?
LoL…last time I checked nobody knows what the last supper looked like including di Vinci. Leonardo’s art is just that art. As a Christian it holds no special place for me. I’ve seen similar scenes depicted by “peeps” and various other things that don’t seem to generate the same “making a mockery” response.
Now there were things that happened during the Olympics that I didn’t like but I largely just ignore that and focus on all the good parts of the Olympics - something by the way I have to do with Clemson as well (“C-L-E-M-S-O-MF-N” as an example)
Now there were things that happened during the Olympics that I didn’t like but I largely just ignore that and focus on all the good parts of the Olympics - something by the way I have to do with Clemson as well (“C-L-E-M-S-O-MF-N” as an example)
If you thought the Opening/Closing was strange, then you're not the target audience.
That's like listening to Taylor Swift (without a teenager daughter in the house) and wondering why you can't relate.
Neither are doing it for you.
That's like listening to Taylor Swift (without a teenager daughter in the house) and wondering why you can't relate.
Neither are doing it for you.
If men wearing women's lingerie is the target audience, i'll gladly sit it out.
Can't wait for some football to be on TV.
In all honesty, if you think about it, if you never watched a second your life wouldn't change. I'm speaking from experience. Haven't watched 1 second and the only thing I've "missed" are conversations. Literally, nothing in my world has changed and not once have I thought "man, I sure missed the Olympics this year".
It's Entertainment. It's "Art".
Unless you're longing to be entertained more, you likely wouldn't miss it either.
How much of it is being Christian, and being the "wrong type" of Christian according to the other person though?
Since y'all are busy doing some "well ackshually," let's do a little more: did the Church, or local Christian cultures, often incorporate some pagan traditions into Christian holidays, either as a way of relating the Gospel to particular cultures, or because those traditions could be assimilated into Christian practice without compromising doctrine (in their view)? Yes. Is the view that all of these traditions actually came from the pagan past somewhat of a myth, and probably the result of historical revisionism motivated by religious rivalry? Yes, and yes.
Does that make the long-standing inclusion of those practices in Christian traditions and holidays any less Christian, or any less associated with Christianity? No.
As far as whether, when Christianity is the majority religion of the US and Europe, Christians can still be "persecuted," one need only ask if our elite culture is populated by people who have any interest in living like Christ. What I think people really mean when they say cite numerous Christianity as a proof against the idea that Christians can be persecuted in the West is that they simply don't think the persecution Christians do face is worth noting. But I also wonder if they're not just ignoring how much our culture has turned against even the idea that it's good that somebody would be a pious Christian over the last 10-12 years or so.
This is probably the most obviously goofy version of what people are doing above in arguing that all of the things associated with Christianity are actually pagan. It doesn't matter if da Vinci's art is a literal representation of the Last Supper, it only matters that it's widely associated with it. Something can be a mockery of the Last Supper because it's intended to remind you of da Vinci's painting, and I think that's something you have to do a lot of mental work not to recognize. Unless, of course, you think apparent mockery of the scene depicted by da Vinci is a mockery of da Vinci, which would be even weirder.
The Tom Cruise bit was the most Tom Cruise thing I’ve ever seen. And I’ve seen a lot of Tom Cruise movies.
But it’s the Olympics and it’s Europe. An organization that thinks Breakdancing is a sport in a country that eats snails and perfected the art of surrendering. Of course it’s gonna be weird.
But it’s the Olympics and it’s Europe. An organization that thinks Breakdancing is a sport in a country that eats snails and perfected the art of surrendering. Of course it’s gonna be weird.
And a screwed one.
I’m wondering if he got sick afterwards.
I didn’t. I also didn’t care. But to me, that did not look like the last supper.
Though after the fact I think the fat tranny in the middle tried to say it was or something.
I’m gonna guess they didn’t all sit on the same side of the table.
When did they start saying it was the feast of Dionysus??
Oh that's right, after they committed the ultimate sin of offending people and got called out on it, so they had to backtrack.
But you're a good little parrot, you can repeat words very well.
The entire Christian last supper image was sampled from the Feast of Dionysus.
Religion is the antithesis of reason.
Can you tell me which disciple was blue and fat?
We do have an agenda. Our agenda is to stop Christians from forcing their values on everyone through legislation. If y'all would stop pretending that the Bible has anything to do with the federal government, we'd be willing to agree to a ceasefire in our War on Christmas and Saying Merry Christmas.
Exactly the opposite is happening in this country!
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