With the curve flattening...
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You mean that same math you were quoting earlier that was based around estimated numbers of infected people. Sorry, I'll pass. I deal in actual confirmed numbers. Here's some numbers for you: the US total cases the last 4 days - 4/4 = 311,357; 4/5 = 336,673; 4/6 = 367,004; and 4/7 = 400,335. That's a daily increase of 1.081%, 1.09%, and 1.091% respectively. Those percentages are still increasing, not flattening.
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The curve is flattening because the RATE of increase is decreasing. This doesn't mean we've hit the peak yet.
That happened today. If you look at the cumulative numbers on the CDC’s data the last few days have seen a big decrease in new cases but today was a big jump. I am anxious to see the next 5 days’ numbers.
Where are your numbers from? This is Johns Hopkins (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html):
March Total Increase Percentage
1 243600
2 275600 32000 13.14%
3 308900 33300 12.08%
4 337100 28200 9.13%
5 366700 29600 8.78%
6 396200 29500 8.04%
Seems to be going down. I hope Johns Hopkins is right.
@acwill07 still thinks we’ll all be cowering inside till December. What a mommy’s boy. You know she is going trying to catch it, just to leave him.
We simply don't have enough data to say this at all. Testing is still not being done to a level that would give us any idea.
Look at all the people that can understand something the poor little engineer couldn’t understand. WOW
If a million deaths like he predicted, would hurt Trump, he’d take it.
Yep, the healthcare "data" system is flawed in that it runs across thousands of bespoke systems that aren't shared centrally. It's the same broken model finance used for years and is now trying to solve with CAT (consolidated audit trail) where you have one central system that collects and stores all executed trades across the market which helps regulators probe illegal trading. In years prior, that would have been a massive undertaking both spend and infrastructure wise but public cloud and cheap storage defray the cost nowadays. Healthcare needs to follow a similar methodology, at least by country to help streamline information and most importantly, research. HIPAA data regulations will be the argument against it but there are great technologies out there that protect personal information being used across other sectors.
I typically think there is no right answer given we don't have a "clean" dataset. Even estimated trends, charting, etc will be flawed without better content.
In the end, alarmists such as him will look ridiculous.
Guys like him and jimbob have no concept of nuance. The notion of being cautious AND hoping it's on its way out does not compute with them. You're either naively positive or you want everyone to die and the economy to tank.
Total new cases confirmed reported world wide have started showing a declining tendency over the last 3 days per the famous Johns Hopkins dashboard website we have all been watching. You describe new cases adding to the total overall. But look at the new cases reported day by day.
2 years ago, 80,000 died from the flu. 250,000 die every year due to medical human error. Do we get updates on all of those?
LMAO at SMH
LMAO at SMH
Do you recall how angry you were in the beginning of this conversation? I believe you referred to me as a “POS” because I had alternate viewpoint/opinion. You’re anger will been seen as humorous in the end. I thought it was funny even then.
I know you did, because you're a colossal piece of shit.
This conversation is crazy to say the least. Can you all agree to disagree and quit name calling or hoping someone catches the disease to prove a point? Very counter productive if we as a society plan to squelch the problem. We can't bury our head in sand and expect the issue to go away. We do agree there is an issue here, correct? If left unchecked the virus has the potential to kill millions of people? Who here is ready to take that chance? I ere on the side of caution. I welcome the social distancing or whatever measures will help flatten the curve to aid in giving us enough time to create a vaccine or a cure. Do I think that some of the measures enacted are extreme and draconian? YES. Am I optimistic that it won't be as bad as reported? YES. Is my optimism enough to take a chance on endangering the lives of people I respect and love? NO. I hope the anti-cautious crowd is correct and that we won't have nearly the amount of deaths as predicted. One thing for sure, we as a country aren't doing nearly enough testing to know where we stand, especially if asymptomatic people can carry and spread the virus.
No it doesn't. It could, but it very well may not. It could continue that trend of increases for a long time. We have no idea.
No, idiots like you, jimbob, forze, and Trump are going to look stupid calling this thing nothing more than the flu.
Hey, dumbarse, 13,000 have died in 2 weeks. I'd say that's a little more extreme than 80,000 in a year.
You would be a negative Nancy if it was raining gold on your home. Heck you bitch about the recruiting of the best program in the country. Think about that for just one second!! I would consider it a miracle if you had one friend that could stand your negativity.
I'm not being negative, I'm being realistic. You and your posse keep spewing a bunch of crap that has no basis whatsoever. The ironic part of the whole "fake news" campaign is that the one lying the most is your boy Donald Trump. Just throwing stuff out there and seeing what sticks.
I’ve been posting facts and factual graphs. The curve is flattening deal with it.
Haven’t I been saying it for the last to weeks?
Check out this graph it looks like it is peaking!
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/#countries-cases
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Have you compared the numbers with the number of tests being given?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/testing-in-us.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/testing-in-us.html
Thank you for mentioning me in the same breath with President Trump. It’s an honor to be grouped with someone who’s had as successful of a life, as he has. He also loves his country, and is your President.
The only 100% fact in that statement is he is our President. The rest is debatable. more to follow...
"Sorry trying to help a 12 y/o cook dinner"
As much as I know you'd like to believe it, you don't anger me. You are objectively a fool. If you stir any emotion in me it's pity and bewilderment.
@Cocks are Number 1 and @BigTimeTiger I hope it doesn't seem I'm coming after you. I'm trying to understand with whom y'all are arguing in these threads. Is this a pissing contest? I included y'all two because the flowing mane and the sig cocks are #1 stick out.
A) Is this a war against the mainstream media?
B) Is this a war against Trump haters?
C) Is this a war for the economy?
D) All the above
In fairness, this could be just as easily framed as
A) A war for journalism
B) a war against Trump Supporters
C) a War for medical science
D) all the above
I'm just not sure at this point it matters who is/was right? It is what it is.
Could we (the USA) have been more aggressive in pre-empting? Reasonable minds would think so.
Is the aid package full of pork? absolutely
Is the economy getting its ass kicked? absolutely
Is medical science busting its ass? absolutely
Is tv really crack in a box? absolutely
We cannot undue what has been done. Let's hope for the best.
I guess rather than you two constantly telling everybody else they are wrong, move the conversation forward. Again nothing personal, you two are not the greatest offenders but have to admit Fabio and Cocks r #1 draw lots of attention. You two seem too smart for the back and forth.
Truth be told, I’ve not even given it a thought. But... I’d hate to see you actually angry. You might scare someone.
I and others predicted this weeks ago if you recall. You - and @BigTimeTiger and poor @Earle36 were steadfast against shelter in place and social distancing, because this was just the flu and no big deal. We predicted that after these measures showed positive results, you would then spin that to mean that mean that you were right all along.
let’s not forget that Earle has bragged for years on this site about being an international traveling, multiple business owning rich businessman. And last week he was talking about how he was going to spend his socialist poor check from the gubment. What a poor excuse for a man.
not at all. I advocated for the exact measures that appear to have worked. You on the other hand, did not.
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