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I’m not MAGA … but I would like more information because

1) why would he have physical Internet connection installed when he could access wirelessly?

2) no one can just “install” physical connections in the Pentagon. It’s not like at home where you call your ISP and they send a technician out. There are multiple groups involved and … I can’t even fathom the amount of red tape that would need to be cut through to accomplish this. I mean, I installed and integrated with LANs at FAA control towers and the FAA WAN. That was a massive lift and took forever … and an insecure outside line was ordered and installed quickly at the Pentagon???? The Pentagon???
 
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I’m not MAGA … but I would like more information because

1) why would he have physical Internet connection installed when he could access wirelessly?

2) no one can just “install” physical connections in the Pentagon. It’s not like at home where you call your ISP and they send a technician out. There are multiple groups involved and … I can’t even fathom the amount of red tape that would need to be cut through to accomplish this. I mean, I installed and integrated with LANs at FAA control towers and the FAA WAN. That was a massive lift and took forever … and an insecure outside line was ordered and installed quickly at the Pentagon???? The Pentagon???

Based on how seriously they have seemed to take Secure Communications so far in this admin.... Would it really be that surprising?
 
Fired. Great job Pete. Now get every last remnant of Obama out of there.

 
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Dude that's so tired and makes you look like you can't actually discuss the merits if the topic. Is that really the poster that you want to be?
The whole point is that the merits are there, y'all just ignore them.

You are sharp enough to know what i am talking about. The whole "Thats not really happening" is tired too.
 
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The whole point is that the merits are there, y'all just ignore them.

You are sharp enough to know what i am talking about. The whole "Thats not really happening" is tired too.

Let's start here. If a case is filed in a federal court and the judge decides that due to a new, and unprecedented act we are changing the scope of previous law. Would you not want them to slow the process until we can discerne the legality and precedent that it sets moving forward?

Do you truly think the President should be able to just do anything that they want?
 
Let's start here. If a case is filed in a federal court and the judge decides that due to a new, and unprecedented act we are changing the scope of previous law. Would you not want them to slow the process until we can discerne the legality and precedent that it sets moving forward?

Do you truly think the President should be able to just do anything that they want?
Why were the other presidents allowed to deport but not Trump? I asked that as a serious question earlier as i don't know the technicality they are using as an excuse. But many other presidents deported without hearing's.
 
Why were the other presidents allowed to deport but not Trump? I asked that as a serious question earlier as i don't know the technicality they are using as an excuse. But many other presidents deported without hearing's.


Maybe because Trump is insisting on trying to use a law that was not intended, and has no history of being used for the purpose he is trying to use it.

I also highly doubt that the current Supreme Court would curtail his power at all, unless they had serious questions about legality and precedent.
 
Maybe because Trump is insisting on trying to use a law that was not intended, and has no history of being used for the purpose he is trying to use it.

I also highly doubt that the current Supreme Court would curtail his power at all, unless they had serious questions about legality and precedent.
So why can’t he just deport under the same law the other presidents used?

What law that Obama used expired and is no longer relevant?
 
Did he try?

Why didn't he just let the immigration bill pass that would have sped this whole process up?
He didn't try, he did it. And the court blocked it. The court did not block other presidents. Why? What changed?

These are genuine questions i do not know the answer to.
 
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He didn't try, he did it. And the court blocked it. The court did not block other presidents. Why? What changed?

These are genuine questions i do not know the answer to.

No. He tried to do it under a law that has never been used for that purpose. That is literally the hold up.

Nobody is blocking him, they are saying it needs to be adjudicated. Do you really think we should not take a few days or even weeks to determine the laws of our land?

Be very,very careful what you wish for.
 
He didn't try, he did it. And the court blocked it. The court did not block other presidents. Why? What changed?

These are genuine questions i do not know the answer to.
I said this in another thread but he had the backing of the American public UNTIL he decided to use a wartime act to illegally deport immigrants with no criminal records to a death camp in a foreign country. And they refuse to bring them back, so now they've lost our trust. This clear abuse of power can't be that hard to understand, you just don't want to acknowledge it.

Obama was quiet about his deportations and didn't do anything near as extreme as what's happening under this dictatorship - so what changed was the indecency and criminality of the Trump regime.
 
No. He tried to do it under a law that has never been used for that purpose. That is literally the hold up.

Nobody is blocking him, they are saying it needs to be adjudicated. Do you really think we should not take a few days or even weeks to determine the laws of our land?

Be very,very careful what you wish for.
Did they require Obama to adjucate?

I'm genuinely curious in the difference. The only acceptable answer is if there is a law in place then that is not in place now. What law is it? What is the difference?

The President either has the power or he doesn't. Obama had the power. Bush had the power. Clinton had the power.

Apparently everyone sees the hypocrisy except for you.
 
I said this in another thread but he had the backing of the American public UNTIL he decided to use a wartime act to illegally deport immigrants with no criminal records to a death camp in a foreign country. And they refuse to bring them back, so now they've lost our trust. This clear abuse of power can't be that hard to understand, you just don't want to acknowledge it.

Obama was quiet about his deportations and didn't do anything near as extreme as what's happening under this dictatorship - so what changed was the indecency and criminality of the Trump regime.
I missed the part of the judicial system that said if you were quiet about it you can break the law. Just say, they were democrats and it was ok when we did it.

But i like this. Everyone can see the hypocrisy!
 
Did they require Obama to adjucate?

I'm genuinely curious in the difference. The only acceptable answer is if there is a law in place then that is not in place now. What law is it? What is the difference?

The President either has the power or he doesn't. Obama had the power. Bush had the power. Clinton had the power.

Apparently everyone sees the hypocrisy except for you.

Apparently nobody sues them to stop.

Again, none of them have ever used the act that Trump is trying to use for this purpose.

Maybe Trump should try to make the case for his reasons, instead of trying to short cut a complex legal topic. It's also pretty plain that the legal talent available to Trump now is not very good. maybe treat your former lawyers better and they will work for you. Maybe don't try to control access professionally to an entire form because they did their jobs and you don't like it.

In short, Maybe Trump should try to build support and consensus and not be such an asshole.
 
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I missed the part of the judicial system that said if you were quiet about it you can break the law. Just say, they were democrats and it was ok when we did it.

But i like this. Everyone can see the hypocrisy!
I honestly don't know how much due process was followed under Obama but I agree that there should be a middle-ground for deportations when it comes to known offenders who don't qualify for asylum, but I don't see how you can ever sign-off on what Trump is doing with Bukele.
 
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Apparently nobody sues them to stop.

Again, none of them have ever used the act that Trump is trying to use for this purpose.

Maybe Trump should try to make the case for his reasons, instead of trying to short cut a complex legal topic. It's also pretty plain that the legal talent available to Trump now is not very good. maybe treat your former lawyers better and they will work for you. Maybe don't try to control access professionally to an entire form because they did their jobs and you don't like it.

In short, Maybe Trump should try to build support and consensus and not be such an asshole.
It doesn't matter if they used the same act.

It's either legal or it's not. The President has the power or he doesn't.
 
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You do realize all the issues with Obama's claims of due process violations were because of his use of Summary Removal - in that the overwhelming majority were immigrants caught at or near the border, right? The ACLU fought against Obama using it in the past. Maybe if anyone on the right gave a shit about violating due process they could've jumped on Obama as well back in 2014 alongside the ACLU. I imagine there may be some issues with Trump's expanding of summary removal to include anywhere in the US that can't immediately verify they've been in the country for at least 2 years straight.
 
That's literally complete wrong.
Ok.

You want a set of rules for democrats and another for republicans. That society won’t last my friend.

If Obama had the power Trump should too. Full stop.

You want democrats to fight with knives and you want republicans to to fight with pillows.
 
Ok.

You want a set of rules for democrats and another for republicans. That society won’t last my friend.

If Obama had the power Trump should too. Full stop.

You want democrats to fight with knives and you want republicans to to fight with pillows.

Are you really this puzzled and lost?
 
Ok.

You want a set of rules for democrats and another for republicans. That society won’t last my friend.

If Obama had the power Trump should too. Full stop.

You want democrats to fight with knives and you want republicans to to fight with pillows.

It's not my fault the pubs appear to be intellectual pillows. Maybe don't treat all your lawyers like shit.
 
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Based on how seriously they have seemed to take Secure Communications so far in this admin.... Would it really be that surprising?
There is an ocean of difference between “unsecured app on a mobile device” and “installation of an unsecured connection in the Pentagon”.

That just doesn’t happen, regardless of who is requesting it.

I would suspect that it actually would be physically and technically impossible for such a thing to be done at the Pentagon.
 
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