Clemson professor gets deported
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I really have no knowledge of foreign affairs. But just in theory, I don't think it's morally wrong for us to say no to people wanting to come here.
That said, it wont help anything.
That said, it wont help anything.
I don't think this is gonna end well for anyone.
Facts from her FB and LinkedIn to clear up some 'fake news' :
She got an MS in Industrial Engineering at Northern Illinois U and then a PHD in Philosophy at Clemson, graduated last Aug. The 2 degrees is why she's been in the US for 7 yrs.
Since she graduated she lists her job as a data modeler for a small start-up...an industrial sensor / software company. She's not a professor, but was a TA as a student.
According to her colleague on FB, she does not have a green card, she's on a temporary student visa only so her permanent residence is still outside US, presumably Tehran. From this I assume she's on a standard F1 student visa which allows 12 months max after graduation. It's likely she is working to have an employer sponsor a working visa or green card.
She got an MS in Industrial Engineering at Northern Illinois U and then a PHD in Philosophy at Clemson, graduated last Aug. The 2 degrees is why she's been in the US for 7 yrs.
Since she graduated she lists her job as a data modeler for a small start-up...an industrial sensor / software company. She's not a professor, but was a TA as a student.
According to her colleague on FB, she does not have a green card, she's on a temporary student visa only so her permanent residence is still outside US, presumably Tehran. From this I assume she's on a standard F1 student visa which allows 12 months max after graduation. It's likely she is working to have an employer sponsor a working visa or green card.
Thanks for the info , Bowman ... we need more investigative journalism like yours in this country .,
Too bad that's not what I said. Good news is what I said is still posted. You can go back and read again. I suggest you read it slower and this time address things I actually said or serious questions I actually asked that I didn't know the answer to. Your response wasn't a response to any statement I made. I'll hang up and listen.
I see the snowflakes are still going at it in the thread. It truly is unreal that we have a perfect case study of what happens with unmitigated Muslim immigration in Europe, and we still have people who let there feelings override their brains.
Thanks for looking that up so all of us could have a more well-informed opinion.
Really just a sad situation all around. Unfortunately I think this is a backlash of the failure by Muslim countries to really police their own. Had they done more to curtail extremism within their own borders, I doubt it would have come to lengths like this here or in Europe.
First and foremost, thank you for your service. Sincerely, thank you.
My question is not with the end, it's with the means. Was this an issue of national security to the extent that this had to be done in this manner (And maybe it was and I'm naive)? Everything Trump has done since he began his campaign wreaks of grand standing and a publicity stunt. I'm still shaky on him as a leader because of that. The lack of experience in government concerns me.
My other concern is why does everything have to so extreme left or right wing? How are we ever supposed to come together as a country if any word mustered on either "side" at this point is argued to no end without even really listening to the other side?
Simple reason.
Social media has given a voice for EVERYONE. Before you had to earn your right to speak on public forums (interviews, articles, newspapers, public office). Now, anyone with a phone has "equal weight" and we ALL suffer because of it. There's no vetting process at all.
At least everyone still has to take a written and road test and abide by certain laws to maintain a drivers license as minimum as they may be. The standards to hold a real voice in public opinion were MUCH higher than a drivers license 15 years ago. Today, it's all been eliminated and anyone can say any thing without responsibility of any real kind.
Therefore, those with actual intellect and well thought out opinions get drowned out into the ...... KYS or whatever or asshat clowns with a handle in the millions.
Sucks... there is no way to fix it at all unless you decide to pull the plug on electricity or start a legitimate vetting process for public speaking which of course will never happen.
We have met the enemy, and it's us......... in this particular case.
Yes thank you for clearing that up CreoleTiger; having been educated at Clemson and the University of Chicago, I am, as you know, quite the stupid.
Wasn't aware they banned Muslims. Here I thought they banned Arab nationals from seven Arab countries. Which is why I never mentioned the word Muslim. If this was religiously charged, they might want to start in Indonesia.
This ban is ridiculous - if Trump was serious why not include Saudi Arabia?
THIS^^^^
There will always be collateral damage and sad stories to every new law/mandate/EO, but the main point is that there is no way to decipher between those who go to Iran, Syria, etc for "vacation" to train as ISIS terrorists and those who are just going home to spend time with family. That's the entire point of the EO. The free flow back and forth must stop until the processes to vet properly are put in place. This unfortunate woman was caught in the worst situation possible, but she is an Iranian citizen on an HB1 Visa. Her job at Clemson could be occupied by an American hard working citizen. That's not racist, that's fact.
everyone getting all up in their feels and then @OculusTiger drops the mic
I am going to need you to change your TI handle to Matlock, Columbo, or Sherlock...well done
everyone getting all up in their feels and then @OculusTiger drops the mic
I am going to need you to change your TI handle to Matlock, Columbo, or Sherlock...well done
This person left the country during a Time she knew it was possible for the order to come down, she has a visa (not a citizen), and she is all up in arms? What if she had been radicalized or was radicalized while visiting? It also btw isn't permanent.
I had a conversation with a snowflake talking about how they just feel for all the innocent children. I do, as well. Quite frankly, they aren't American children. Not our responsibility. However, they will be brainwashed by their culture/religion. It is like dumping a ton of baby rattlesnakes into an area that didn't previously have rattlesnakes. Pretty soon you are going to have a shit ton of grown rattlesnakes
This thread is exactly what is effed up in this country. People read something on the intraweb, assume it to be true, and start posting it all over social media before the facts are obtained. of course she was mad and upset but she has no one to blame but herself.
When not a citizen, you best make damn sure you are following the letter of the law to the T if you are going to travel. If there was any chance of this (and the media has been pretty clear this was a possibility) then she shouldn't have traveled
Based on the facts...only reason for anyone to be mad about this is because they feel sorry for her. No other reason
Repeat this word over and over and maybe it sinks in: TEMPORARY!
This ban is TEMPORARY. Why is that such a bad thing?
And honestly, I doubt this country wants to come together over anything short of an attack on us like 9/11. Libs nor cons want to give up their deeply held convictions to compromise for the sake of harmony. There seems to be more that separates today than unites us.
Tough situation indeed. Her life was turned upside down with the stroke of a pen. These are the types of situations that probably were not considered ..... at all.
Every last one of us should work, hope and pray for due process soon. When we devolve into dueling executives who take turns denying due process to their political opponents, we will be in quite a fix. We may not quite be there yet, but you can see it from here. Citizens, not subjects, better return to principle over temporary selfish advantage grabbing.
When 0bama did it there was silence on the left. Fine for all the outcry now, but why the outcry? Just wanting their leftist advantage back, or is this an appeal for rightness and true due process for all?
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/h...te-reprieve-as-deportations-skyrocket-8991508
When 0bama did it there was silence on the left. Fine for all the outcry now, but why the outcry? Just wanting their leftist advantage back, or is this an appeal for rightness and true due process for all?
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/h...te-reprieve-as-deportations-skyrocket-8991508
A) 95% of the people posting ITT probably haven't even read the executive order and are reacting to other's opinions on the internet.
B) This Iraqi dude who was held in handcuffs for 17 hrs (who knows if that's true but let's assume it is) was vetted and released within 1 day. Even if it is true it's unfortunate but those kind of details will get ironed out in time. Why are liberals so opposed to folks from these countries being vetted fully before being allowed admission?
B) This Iraqi dude who was held in handcuffs for 17 hrs (who knows if that's true but let's assume it is) was vetted and released within 1 day. Even if it is true it's unfortunate but those kind of details will get ironed out in time. Why are liberals so opposed to folks from these countries being vetted fully before being allowed admission?
Lets look at the countries on List:
Countries with no stable government:
Libya - Civil war and ISIS
Sudan - Civil war for over a decade, Muslims against Christians
Somalia - Civil War with Al Shabab a major influence
Yemen - Civil war with both ISIS and Al Queda
Syria - Civil war with numerous groups especially ISIS
Iraq - War torn western Iraq with ISIS a major factor
Country with stable government -
Iran - largest supporter / exporter of terror (several reports) and states its an enemy of the US.
Makes more sense when you look at whether you can really get any information not the typical Muslims vs the world viewpoint professed by the press.
Countries with no stable government:
Libya - Civil war and ISIS
Sudan - Civil war for over a decade, Muslims against Christians
Somalia - Civil War with Al Shabab a major influence
Yemen - Civil war with both ISIS and Al Queda
Syria - Civil war with numerous groups especially ISIS
Iraq - War torn western Iraq with ISIS a major factor
Country with stable government -
Iran - largest supporter / exporter of terror (several reports) and states its an enemy of the US.
Makes more sense when you look at whether you can really get any information not the typical Muslims vs the world viewpoint professed by the press.
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I just hired a UK kid that just graduated from college. Since he graduated from a US college, he gets a 1 year work visa. After that, he can apply for an additional 2 years, but thereafter he would need sponsorship. Now this is from a eligibility to work in the US perspective, not sure how it works if you just stay and not work.
Snowflakes lack common sense.
Because Clinton foundation would fall apart from lack of funds. He wants it to be strong before they go to prison
Because for me it is not a National Security issue. It is about preservation of our culture as we know it. Europe has been completely changed by Muslim immigration, that's indisputable fact. Not only did they bring them in in massive numbers, but they also didn't have the foresight to know that these immigrants were going to average just under 8 kids while their citizens were averaging around 2. In every single country, crime has gone up massively along with the immigration, and it's not a coincidence. National Security is way behind preservation of our culture for me, and I applaud Trump for not allowing the PC snowflakes to allow us to become Europe.
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