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Matt Gaetz: "Withdrawing My Name" From AG Consideration

TigerGrowls
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If you don’t know about the Matt Gaetz story, it’s fascinating. There was a FBI investigation into somebody who Matt Gaetz knows, that person ended up pleading guilty. But the department of Justice and the FBI really wanted to get Matt Gaetz, not the other guy.

Former department of Justice official met with the father of Matt Gaetz, and tried to extort him for $25 million dollars. The local FBI office told his father to wear a wire… which he did.

This resulted in the arrest and conviction of Stephen Alford for extortion. The former DOJ official who met with his father on behalf of Alford was never mentioned.

Alford in conjunction with this former DOJ official wanted Gaetz to plead guilty, and if he did they promised him a pardon.

This was all happening while the FBI was probing Matt Gaetz for s*x trafficking. Of course charges were never filed. And he was CLEARED of all wrongdoing.

But you know what’s really ironic, the subject of the ethics complaint is a 17-year-old girl that Matt Gaetz supposedly slept with.

It’s so strange because that’s exactly the charge that the FBI cleared him of.

They don’t have a crime, they have a girl who is three degrees of separation from someone in the FBI who is now making allegations even though the FBI couldn’t prosecute Gaetz for this criminally.

Do you know who has extensive ties to the ethics committee in the House of Representatives? I’m sure it’s just a coincidence that it’s Kevin McCarthy. Kevin McCarthy has spent the entire time since getting ousted by Matt Gaetz for being a horrible speaker trying to take him down.

Again, total coincidence, not a plot to destroy one of the biggest fighters in Congress.
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OT: Weekend Outdoor Cooking Thread.....

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Who else is fogging out their neighbors tonight/this weekend?

Will be grilling a couple of Wagyu Filets (part of my order from Snake River Farms) for us tonight. Vacillating between baked potatoes or baked sweet potatoes to go with. Leaning toward the sweet potatoes....figure they'll pair well with a thick, rare/med-rare Filet.

Food old Kingsford charcoal and chunks of applewood for the fuel.

Anyone else disregarding the teachings of their Moms tonight and playing with fire?
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Trump to nominate fox news host as secretary of defense

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leetp said:
Solid question, and I appreciate the effort at serious discussion.

First: I am career enlisted (retired at E-8, Senior Master Seargent, USAF), and served at base-level; so I cannot claim any frequent direct contact with flag officers. I did once support a two-week mission where we took then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Myers on a tour through nearly every major camp in the Iraq and Afghanistan AOR's, and I actually got to chat with a General a good bit during this brief tour (a very solid guy). Other than that, I can scarcely recall a time when I have said two words to a flag officer. I'd did however serve several years on staff later in my career and had near daily interaction at the O-6 level.

Second: I too share your concern of Hegseth's qualifications.... but it's just concern, not necessarily a deal breaker. I'd like to see how confirmation goes--if it gets that far.

Now about my opinion of the flag officer corps: I don't necessarily have a list, but if a racked my brain and called some military buddies, I am sure I can come up with some names. Still, I am largely drawing on my own, admittedly anecdotal military career experience. There have been several "day-in-the-life" occasions throughout my career where I have seen our most senior leaders let us down--and that is nearly impossible to distill down to any sort of objective indictment on the flag officer corps as a whole. And maybe it is note far for me to do so. Anyway, one such occasion is rather famous and that is the one involving General Petraeus--paradoxically perhaps one of the better military minds of our age. As CENTCOM Commander, he authored General Order 1A, which forbad cohabitation with members of the opposite sex while in a war zone under threat of courts martial--amoung other things. Service members were literally seeing their careers ended for engaging in the same behavior as our good general. Never mind the general was also married (adultery is a crime under Article 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice), and I have first-hand knowledge of service members receiving punishment (NJP* and worse) for violations of Article 134 and G.O. 1A. Never mind also the classified information he passed on to his mistress he was banging in the war zone, Puala Broadwell.

Of course, this proves nothing; but I do hold it up along with countless others as a symbol of something rotten in the highest levels of military leadership. Sometimes stepping way outside is the only way to clean things up.

*NJP is Nonjudicial punishment--the most severe punishment that can be administered outside of courts martial.
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Trump to nominate fox news host as secretary of defense

leetp
DrTigerGoob said:
What are the things about Flag Officers you have been harping on? Is this from direct contact with Flag Officers? Details please.
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Solid question, and I appreciate the effort at serious discussion.

First: I am career enlisted (retired at E-8, Senior Master Seargent, USAF), and served at base-level; so I cannot claim any frequent direct contact with flag officers. I did once support a two-week mission where we took then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Myers on a tour through nearly every major camp in the Iraq and Afghanistan AOR's, and I actually got to chat with the General a good bit during this brief tour (a very solid guy). Other than that, I can scarcely recall a time when I have said two words to a flag officer. I'd did however serve several years on staff later in my career and had near daily interaction at the O-6 level.

Second: I too share your concern of Hegseth's qualifications.... but it's just concern, not necessarily a deal breaker. I'd like to see how confirmation goes--if it gets that far.

Now about my opinion of the flag officer corps: I don't necessarily have a list, but if a racked my brain and called some military buddies, I am sure I can come up with some names. Still, I am largely drawing on my own, admittedly anecdotal military career experience. There have been several "day-in-the-life" occasions throughout my career where I have seen our most senior leaders let us down--and that is nearly impossible to distill down to any sort of objective indictment on the flag officer corps as a whole. And maybe it is not fair for me to do so here. Anyway, one such occasion is rather famous and that is the one involving General Petraeus--paradoxically perhaps one of the better military minds of our age. As CENTCOM Commander, he authored General Order 1A, which forbad cohabitation with members of the opposite sex while in a war zone under threat of courts martial--among other things. Service members were literally seeing their careers ended for engaging in the same behavior as our good general. Never mind the general was also married (adultery is a crime under Article 134 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice), and I have first-hand knowledge of service members receiving punishment (NJP* and worse) for violations of Article 134 and G.O. 1A. Never mind also the classified information he passed on to his mistress he was banging in the war zone, Puala Broadwell.

Of course, this proves nothing; but I do hold it up along with countless others as a symbol of something rotten in the highest levels of military leadership. Sometimes stepping way outside is the only way to clean things up.

*NJP is Nonjudicial punishment--the most severe punishment that can be administered outside of courts martial.
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