Yes there are racists outside the south. Yes, I've heard racist comments all over the country. What's your point?
“History is not there for you to like or dislike.....
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Depends. I have complete respect for those who voted for him in 2016 but not 2020. Much less for those who voted for him twice. Absolutely none for anyone still defending him today. Literally zero, the same I'd have for a sewer rat. Yes I'm very happy I voted for Biden and I will happily do it again.
Not engaging with the rest of your post, it's just a bunch of dumbass whataboutism
@loveoysters since you don't know how to quote properly I had to tag you.
No, I don't think you are a sewer rat. I just afford you the same amount of respect I would grant one of them in a politics discussion.
No, I don't think you are a sewer rat. I just afford you the same amount of respect I would grant one of them in a politics discussion.
I'll say one thing. You are consistent. Always stumping for liberal pedophiles. Not all pedo's mind you as you have clearly come out against the pedo Catholic priests (I'm with you here by the way).
Oh and mad props to you sir. You are the first person I have EVER seen either on a message board or in real life poke their chest out to proudly proclaim that they are indeed...... a History major!
Which liberal pedophiles am I always stumping for? You should be able to provide a list since I'm always doing it in between posts bragging about my history degree.
Lolol.
Well, first on the list is Biden.
Second, I must admit you remind me of the hecklers in the back of this audience when talking about the queer theory and children. May be unfair, but we will go with it since we seem to do the same with anyone deemed MAGA. Rrrroooollllll the tape with the angry trans activists in the back of the room worked up on the subject of pedophilia........
You can just say that you're not a serious person. There's no need to go to all this effort to demonstrate it.
Fighting most of the way? A few skirmishes and probably one battle at Rivers Bridge on the Salkehatchie river. But I do agree that they were tough outdoorsmen that were better with a gun, horse and axe than the recent immigrant city dwellers of the army of the Potomac.
No dog in this fight, but it is kind of an ironic that you argue that you don’t hate America, but do hate anyone who wants to make America Great again.
😅😅😅 good one
Edit - I've never really argued that I don't hate America, because I have no need to defend that fact.
How would he know? He has no dog in the fight. It's just a coincidence that he used that phrase.
the quote provided is made up - it's false. as are other statements you made. again. makes you a loser.
I want to highlight the motivation. Rich people have been getting poor people to die for wars that don't benefit them for all of written history. There's always propaganda and usually scapegoats that help. For sure the motivation you could be looking for is a combination of many factors, not least of which was racism.
Indeed...if not for the poor there would be no one to fight the wars. I am as patriotic as they come, but had I been raised with means, I'd have gone strait to Clemson out of high school instead of the military. And the overwhelming majority of enlistees were of similar background.
Nevertheless scathing critique of the South's stance on slavery is certainly warranted, but let's not get carried away romanticizing the North as post-racial progressive civil rights warriors. I dare say no white European that lived in the country at the time did not think themselves superior to the African race. Even the staunch abolitionist at the time were quick to point out that they didn't regard the African as equal to the European. Licnoln was quatoed as saying as much (though, politics....). Many abolitionists (incl. President Lincoln) also lobbied for repatriation or Caribbean migration for the African population post abolition.
While we're on the topic, is not viewing our fellow human being as equal, regardless of race, a fairly modern construct? Has not every race regarded themselves superior to other races at some point in time?
Anyway, my point is, I'm not sure the racism angle is a dominant motivating factor insofar as the whole modern world was "racist".
Granted it was more than 100 years later, but it should be noted that the national guard was also dispatched to Boston to help keep the peace during integration in Massachusetts.
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Yes this especially true and you'll get no disagreement from me. Listen to the Randy Newman song, Rednecks, to hear some brilliant satire on this exact notion.
I'm jumping in late here so I'm not commenting on any other points made either way at this point.
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I want to piggyback on this and add that repatriation, at that time, was heavily favored by AAs. Also, you’re absolutely right re: the north’s racism. There have been plenty of accounts written during that time attesting to the belief that northern whites didn’t view blacks as equals. That’s not to say there weren’t many that did view them as equals, but for the most part it was a major sentiment during that period… especially among the common folk
I'm struggling to find the right way to word this. But I've observed in my life that horror movies by or about black people, that touch on racial issues, are almost always set above the Mason-Dixon line. Just an observation, not making any other claims.
That said, the cause of the Union was ending the practice of slavery and preserving the union. Their cause was morally right and just the complete opposite of the South's cause.
I lived in Colorado for a year, and I observed more overt bigotry towards Latinos there than I ever did towards black people here. But that was in 2000 and well before the Maga movement.
Ditto. Born and raised in South Carolina, but never observed the kind of racism in South Carolina that I witnessed when I lived in Connecticut for a couple of years. I never knew there were so many ways I could hate my fellow human beings than the way they could hate one another in Connecticut. Up there, not only did ehites hate the blacks (and vice versa), but they hated the Puerto Ricans, and anything else not from their corner of Europe. The Italians hated the Germans, the Germans hated the English, etc. When I was getting to know folks up there, they wanted to know where I was from. I told them, South Carolina. They said no, where are you "from" (i.e. "what" are you...as in, where in Europe does your family hail from)? Again, I told them I don't know. My family goes all the way back to the pre-revolutionary period. I am just an American.
Bottom line, the hatred ran deep up there.
And honestly, do you even care where your family came from in Europe? I don't know and i really don't care enough to find out. The South and this state have a lot of flaws, but I'd still rather live here than anywhere else because the people are real (enough).
This is very prevalent in northern areas. You are German American, Chinese American, Irish American, etc etc. I am just American as 99% of the people I know. I love the state of South Carolina and I am proud of this state!
