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Another study proving mRNA vaccines are safe.

@Cocks are Number 1 - curious to hear your answer to this.
I honestly find you to be a waste of my time, but I am very healthy. Great diet.. 6’4” 225lbs, and use squach deodorant.

My wife is incredibly gorgeous, and two great boys, one of which will be a 5* DE recruit in a few years.

Ftr, I couldn’t care less about your diet. I hope you simply enjoy yourself. Have a lovely day.
 
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Curious, how was their health otherwise and how old were they? Were they in good physical shape? Any comorbidities?

Not great health, definitely comorbidities.

I respect your decision for you and your family. If you had gotten Covid you likely would have been fine. Where I get frustrated is people that should have gotten the vaccine due to their health and age refusing due to the fears sown for political purposes.
 
Not great health, definitely comorbidities.

I respect your decision for you and your family. If you had gotten Covid you likely would have been fine. Where I get frustrated is people that should have gotten the vaccine due to their health and age refusing due to the fears sown for political purposes.

My son and I both got Covid before the vaccine was available. It was one of the key information points in our decision. He was 100% perfect within 24 hours. I had chills and felt like shit, but was 100% perfect in 36 hours.

When your natural immune system dispatches a virus so efficiently, why would you want to alter it?
 
My son and I both got Covid before the vaccine was available. It was one of the key information points in our decision. He was 100% perfect within 24 hours. I had chills and felt like shit, but was 100% perfect in 36 hours.

When your natural immune system dispatches a virus so efficiently, why would you want to alter it?

I get that, and again don't think I've ever given you a hard time about it. I was vaccinated mainly due to the fact that I am constantly working very closely with a lot of people everyday at work, in addition to my Wife being in education and being surrounded by sick kids. I didn't need to miss work for 10 days due to Covid.

My concern and what pisses me off is when people who should have gotten the vaccine were lead not to by dumbasses and lost their lives.
 
I remember a year or two ago questioning @acwill07 about being a leftist in disguise and he had a full-fledged meltdown…

And here we are! 🤣🤣🤣

@scotchtiger your on deck
 
I honestly find you to be a waste of my time, but I am very healthy. Great diet.. 6’4” 225lbs, and use squach deodorant.

My wife is incredibly gorgeous, and two great boys, one of which will be a 5* DE recruit in a few years.

Ftr, I couldn’t care less about your diet. I hope you simply enjoy yourself. Have a lovely day.
Everything on a message board is a great waste of time.

You have no reason to be concerned with my diet because I trust the experts to guide me and optimize my health vs “doing my own research”. Just saw my functional medicine doctor yesterday for my annual blood analysis and body composition analysis. That bad news is that in my mid 40s my body fat has increased to 16% but we are developing a plan to get that back down to 10-12%.
 
I get that, and again don't think I've ever given you a hard time about it. I was vaccinated mainly due to the fact that I am constantly working very closely with a lot of people everyday at work, in addition to my Wife being in education and being surrounded by sick kids. I didn't need to miss work for 10 days due to Covid.

My concern and what pisses me off is when people who should have gotten the vaccine were lead not to by dumbasses and lost their lives.

That was one of my biggest gripes in the propaganda. They should have super clearly told the public who was actually at risk (elderly, obese, comorbid) and told them that it was particularly important that they get vaccinated (and immediately begin addressing controllable health issues like obesity).

Obesity should have been declared a public health emergency circa April 2020 when we knew that was a leading factor in covid complications. Imagine the burden we could have taken (and still could take) off the healthcare system if we reduce our obesity levels to those seen in Europe?
 
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That was one of my biggest gripes in the propaganda. They should have super clearly told the public who was actually at risk (elderly, obese, comorbid) and told them that it was particularly important that they get vaccinated (and immediately begin addressing controllable health issues like obesity).

Obesity should have been declared a public health emergency circa April 2020 when we knew that was a leading factor in covid complications. Imagine the burden we could have taken (and still could take) off the healthcare system if we reduce our obesity levels to those seen in Europe?
There was no statistical evidence to support what you are saying. We had the best in the world analyzing this virus and that wasn’t apparent until well later in the process. And even then, it took a while to understand what comorbidities were most impactful.

And I couldn’t agree more with your stance on people needing to take more responsibility for their personal health. But the govt should also limit what food can be sold. 90% of what is in your average grocery store should not be consumed.
 
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Ok I see that point, I also would ask, at what point would it be fair to say that it's isn't dangerous?

The fear of the vaccine cost a lot of people their lives. I know multiple people who refused the vaccine due to their political leanings who died.
And you and the doctors all know that the death of these people was a direct result of not taking the vaccine? There were no other complications that could have caused the death? Was an autopsy performed?
 
And you and the doctors all know that the death of these people was a direct result of not taking the vaccine? There were no other complications that could have caused the death? Was an autopsy performed?

In these instances they literally got sick with Covid,went into the hospital and died due to the complications of Covid.

This argument always puzzles me, you realize nobody died from AIDS right? They died due to the weakened immune system leading to other sickness such as pneumonia that their weakened bodies couldn't fight off.
 
nice try at the typical response from your crowd, which is nearly always deflection instead of accountability, and congratulations on keeping that approach alive. but wow this is a self-own on every line item.
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And you are doing the very thing that you are accusing me of, deflection instead of accountability. if I had my way neither of these candidates would be on the ballot but we have what we have and I will vote the lesser of the two evils, Trump. Biden, in my view, is the antithesis of what our forefathers believed and did when they gave this country our two founding documents. America is about exceptionalism, Biden is not exceptional in any phase of his presidency. Every day he proves that.
 
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And you are doing the very thing that you are accusing me of, deflection instead of accountability. if I had my way neither of these candidates would be on the ballot but we have what we have and I will vote the lesser of the two evils, Trump. Biden, in my view, is the antithesis of what our forefathers believed and did when they gave this country our two founding documents. America is about exceptionalism, Biden is not exceptional in any phase of his presidency. Every day he proves that.
These takes amaze me. You will vote for the aspiring dictator who tried to overturn an election and overthrow the government because you think Biden is the antithesis of the two founding documents of this country.

How can you be serious?
 
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In these instances they literally got sick with Covid,went into the hospital and died due to the complications of Covid.

This argument always puzzles me, you realize nobody died from AIDS right? They died due to the weakened immune system leading to other sickness such as pneumonia that their weakened bodies couldn't fight off.

These takes amaze me. You will vote for the aspiring dictator who tried to overturn an election and overthrow the government because you think Biden is the antithesis of the two founding documents of this country.

How can you be serious?
Open your eyes, Prime! The only aspiring dictator running for president is Biden. I don't expect you to evaluate the situation honestly so go ahead and vote for Biden.
 
Open your eyes, Prime! The only aspiring dictator running for president is Biden. I don't expect you to evaluate the situation honestly so go ahead and vote for Biden.
Open my eyes? Do you even listen to Trump? So Biden wants to spend more on social benefits. You do realize Trump cut taxes without cutting any spending, right? Aside from his statements about wanting to be a dictator, believing the president should have immunity, firing anyone who isn’t a loyalist, trying to overturn an election, and then organizing Y’all Queda to overthrow the government.

But I’m the one who needs to open my eyes?

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I’m sorry but people in their 20’s aren’t supposed to be dying suddenly, and they are. The government and the media are covering this up. Can we believe anything our government says at this point??
 
Open my eyes? Do you even listen to Trump? So Biden wants to spend more on social benefits. You do realize Trump cut taxes without cutting any spending, right? Aside from his statements about wanting to be a dictator, believing the president should have immunity, firing anyone who isn’t a loyalist, trying to overturn an election, and then organizing Y’all Queda to overthrow the government.

But I’m the one who needs to open my eyes?

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Good, now you understand!!!
 
And I couldn’t agree more with your stance on people needing to take more responsibility for their personal health. But the govt should also limit what food can be sold. 90% of what is in your average grocery store should not be consumed.

So in an unrepublican, pro regulation stance, I agree with you here. Our food supply is dogshit. A recent example is California banning red dye 40, which I completely agree with. If you go to Europe, you don’t see all of the fake shit that we have here.

In a scotchtiger presidency, this would be a top priority. Our food and diet is a foundational reason for our healthcare system troubles.
 
So in an unrepublican, pro regulation stance, I agree with you here. Our food supply is dogshit. A recent example is California banning red dye 40, which I completely agree with. If you go to Europe, you don’t see all of the fake shit that we have here.

In a scotchtiger presidency, this would be a top priority. Our food and diet is a foundational reason for our healthcare system troubles.

I agree 100%. I spent the first 30 years of my life in food service and we serve absolute garbage. We also have a jacked up sense of portions in America. You don't need a 16 oz steak, ever.
 
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Whoa now. I will absolutely demolish a 16 oz steak (or more). Now I just don’t do it all the time and eat lean M-F.

Me too. I eat very carefully and basically have a cheat weekend once a month where I drink beer and eat really caloric food. All about moderation.
 
And you are doing the very thing that you are accusing me of, deflection instead of accountability. if I had my way neither of these candidates would be on the ballot but we have what we have and I will vote the lesser of the two evils, Trump. Biden, in my view, is the antithesis of what our forefathers believed and did when they gave this country our two founding documents. America is about exceptionalism, Biden is not exceptional in any phase of his presidency. Every day he proves that.
I’m not deflecting when I made the list in relation to a point that was made about republican credibility and the ensuing reply to my post was to shift topics.

I will add in general and not directed at the reply above that I believe a strong Republican party is an important part of governance but that I am woefully disappointed at how weak the party is in kowtowing to all things Trump and continually misinforming/distracting voters rather than the better days of Reagan & O’Neill collaborating and actually discussing true issues together. We as a nation traditionally have been best served when one party held the White House, the other held Capitol Hill, and only the most important stuff got done. Campaign cycles were shorter back then too, which was good. Democrats sure aren’t perfect, very true, but at least they excoriate their own offenders when the case is actually made so let’s not both-sides this. Both lists above, on the other hand, are wildly sad depictions of how far the GOP has fallen. And only its voters can effect change for the positive rather than constantly hurling pointless, baseless insults that actually serve to defend its legislators’ own critical flaws.
 
It's all illegal IMO. All these corporations are all intertwined.

You ever wonder why all these people in media are married, yet they don't take the name of their husband?
My wife didn’t take my last name. Am I now deep state? Do I get to make decisions about what happens now? League of 300 and all that nonsense?
 
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Curious, how was their health otherwise and how old were they? Were they in good physical shape? Any comorbidities?
Wife’s grandfather died in his early 70s around the third month of COVID. Excellent health otherwise. Ran 5ks and half marathons in the months leading up to it. No health issues at all.

If we are against euthanasia how are we cool with COVID running rampant? Shouldn’t we do what we can to stop otherwise healthy people from dying?

Remember when the weirdos on here said that the mask would last forever and the government wanted to control us? I wonder what happened to that nerrative?
 
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My wife didn’t take my last name. Am I now deep state? Do I get to make decisions about what happens now? League of 300 and all that nonsense?
My wife didn’t take my last name either. How barbaric are we?
 
I get that, and again don't think I've ever given you a hard time about it. I was vaccinated mainly due to the fact that I am constantly working very closely with a lot of people everyday at work, in addition to my Wife being in education and being surrounded by sick kids. I didn't need to miss work for 10 days due to Covid.

My concern and what pisses me off is when people who should have gotten the vaccine were lead not to by dumbasses and lost their lives.
Did you also disagree with healthy people and children being forced to get the vax to keep their jobs or go to school?
 
As did I. And she took my last name. You didn’t subject your children to some weird hyphenated bullshit did you?
Absolutely did because I’m not some insecure bitch who has to overcompensate. My daughter will grow up knowing women are every bit as capable as men.
 
Absolutely did because I’m not some insecure bitch who has to overcompensate. My daughter will grow up knowing women are every bit as capable as men.

I only have boys. With a single last name. No insecurity or overcompensation needed to take a male last name at marriage and pass it on to the kids. That’s just normal. Enjoy the progressivism. Your kids will raise eyebrows throughout their lives with a hyphenated last name.
 
I only have boys. With a single last name. No insecurity or overcompensation needed to take a male last name at marriage and pass it on to the kids. That’s just normal. Enjoy the progressivism. Your kids will raise eyebrows throughout their lives with a hyphenated last name.
Good for you. I’d expect nothing less from someone with such an overinflated view of themself.
 
Perhaps the least surprising thing I’ve read in a while.
Am I gay now? What if I told you I didn’t give any ****s about my wife’s name? What if I told you my kids have my name? Does that make me a man again?
 
I’m not deflecting when I made the list in relation to a point that was made about republican credibility and the ensuing reply to my post was to shift topics.

I will add in general and not directed at the reply above that I believe a strong Republican party is an important part of governance but that I am woefully disappointed at how weak the party is in kowtowing to all things Trump and continually misinforming/distracting voters rather than the better days of Reagan & O’Neill collaborating and actually discussing true issues together. We as a nation traditionally have been best served when one party held the White House, the other held Capitol Hill, and only the most important stuff got done. Campaign cycles were shorter back then too, which was good. Democrats sure aren’t perfect, very true, but at least they excoriate their own offenders when the case is actually made so let’s not both-sides this. Both lists above, on the other hand, are wildly sad depictions of how far the GOP has fallen. And only its voters can effect change for the positive rather than constantly hurling pointless, baseless insults that actually serve to defend its legislators’ own critical flaws.
Lots of truth in what you posted above about Republicans but I will say I disagree that the Democrats "excoriate their own offenders when the case is actually made." It sounds as if you believe the Democrats are the "adults" in the room of politics and that is patently false. The Democrat party basically has nowhere to fall currently as it is at the bottom now and has been there for some time. That is pitiful as is the general decline in the political arena in all areas.
 
I agree 100%. I spent the first 30 years of my life in food service and we serve absolute garbage. We also have a jacked up sense of portions in America. You don't need a 16 oz steak, ever.
Now now it'll be a cold day in hell when you dirty libs take my 16oz ribeyes from me
 
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