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Birthright Citizenship

TigerGrowls

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This will end up with scotus.



Just listened to the Preliminary Injunction hearing in Seattle. Unbelievable. After the DOJ attorney made a compelling argument, citing controlling Supreme Court precedent about the meaning of the "subject to the jurisdiction" requirement in the Citizenship Clause, Senior Judge Coughenour attacked President Trump for undermining the Rule of Law, then signed the PI without even mentioning any of the controlling precedent. This is preposterous.

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It has a name. It's called Democracy Governance Rule of law and they implimented it into our court systems through liberal Prosecutors in liberal Judges chambers and they used it on you in your trial.

It's part of the United Nations attempt to change our court system into the ICC.
 
This will end up with scotus.



Just listened to the Preliminary Injunction hearing in Seattle. Unbelievable. After the DOJ attorney made a compelling argument, citing controlling Supreme Court precedent about the meaning of the "subject to the jurisdiction" requirement in the Citizenship Clause, Senior Judge Coughenour attacked President Trump for undermining the Rule of Law, then signed the PI without even mentioning any of the controlling precedent. This is preposterous.

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It has a name. It's called Democracy Governance Rule of law and they implimented it into our court systems through liberal Prosecutors in liberal Judges chambers and they used it on you in your trial.

It's part of the United Nations attempt to change our court system into the ICC.
That's the idea. The Amendment was never meant to allow/promote birth tourism and/or allow illegals to create American citizens.
 


Did you know that the SCOTUS has never ruled on extending birthright citizenship to anchor babies born with illegal alien parents?

And now, along with so many other lawfare lawsuits looking to curb the President's Executive power are in play, the Justices probably will call an Emergency Hearing(s) when Trump files an application for one.

I don't recall Trump talking about threatening to appeal all these suits to the Supreme Court - which would imply he's patiently awaiting the perfect opportunity - timing being a thing and all.

And whenever he wishes, he can lean into Supreme Court Rule 11 and bypass the lower courts. A "constitutional crisis" as the left insists that it is, makes for an ironclad reason that this move would be accepted by the body.

"SCOTUS Rule 11 pertains to the process of seeking certiorari from the U.S. Supreme Court before a decision has been made in a lower court, specifically from a United States Court of Appeals." ~Grok

In my opinion, DJT is biding his time.
My bet is that was the plan all along.

Thanks for the assist, Dems!
 


HUGE SMACKDOWN!!! Trump's Solicitor General fact-checked Sotomayor on birthright citizenship so brutally that she started interrupting him constantly.

Sotomayor: "Right now we have novel courts who've percolated this issue and said you're violating precedent, not only precedent but the plain meaning of the 14th [Amendment] of the Constitution."

Sauer: "Respectfully, I think what we have are lower courts making snap judgments on the merits that ignore the fundamental principle of the 14th Amendment that it was about giving citizenship to the children of slaves, not to the children of illegal immigrants who really were not even a very discreet class at that time."

When will this wretched witch return from the Supreme Court?
 
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HOLY CRAP! A @cspan caller exposed "Chinese birth houses" in America, where the Chinese government sends pregnant women in their 7th or 8th month to give birth on U.S. soil, securing citizenship for their kids.

These children are then taken back to China, raised there, and can later return as U.S. citizens.

This is a BLATANT abuse of the 14th Amendment, and it totally backs Trump’s push to stop this insanity.
 


BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP: The 14th Amendment was NEVER meant to let foreign nations sneak pregnant mothers across our borders to birth “anchor babies” and exploit our system.

It’s ludicrous—millions of illegals use this loophole to secure a foothold in America, draining resources and undermining sovereignty.

The Supreme Court can fix this by reining in the overreach of birthright citizenship, as seen in Wong Kim Ark.

Conservative justices like Thomas and Alito are likely on board, but we need a majority.

Will Chief Justice John Roberts or Amy Coney Barrett vote to uphold the U.S. Constitution and secure sovereignty for WE, THE PEOPLE or will they side with Soros and the Open Border Globalists?
 


HUGE SMACKDOWN!!! Trump's Solicitor General fact-checked Sotomayor on birthright citizenship so brutally that she started interrupting him constantly.

Sotomayor: "Right now we have novel courts who've percolated this issue and said you're violating precedent, not only precedent but the plain meaning of the 14th [Amendment] of the Constitution."

Sauer: "Respectfully, I think what we have are lower courts making snap judgments on the merits that ignore the fundamental principle of the 14th Amendment that it was about giving citizenship to the children of slaves, not to the children of illegal immigrants who really were not even a very discreet class at that time."

When will this wretched witch return from the Supreme Court?
It always amazes me how we must take one amendment verbatim like sotomayor is suggesting yet she will advocate for gun control. If the constitution is literal and you’re making the claim that it’s a literal interpretation you must be against any form of gun control period. It’s such hypocrisy and ignorance. Furthermore as the solicitor explained that is not what that meant, there weren’t illegal immigrants flooding other countries in that period, it was unprecedented and novel and they weren’t guarding for that. That was for slaves children and rightfully so. Much like there wasn’t automatic machine guns and 1000 round magazines. But guess what, our leaders got together and came up with guidelines for firearms that make sense, this should be handled the same way. People like Sotomayor have no business making decisions on a Supreme Court. She’s an activist and people like her and KBJ are what’s causing a lack of trust and lack of respect to our entire judiciary and judicial system. Radicals.
 
the intent of the amendment is clear. it wa all about decentdents of slavery, not to support foreigners coming over here legally or illegally to have anchor babies and backdoor citizenship. We all know this. We also know that a dude wearing a dress and calling himself a woman is not a woman.

But here we are..
 
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So then they should easily be able to change it if it's so clear.
I’m not sure how making it say, this is for slaves solves anything but ok. Maybe just be reasonable and have some common sense. You’re clearly a pro gun, no restrictions on ownership guy too. Good to see that.
 
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I’m not sure how making it say, this is for slaves solves anything but ok. Maybe just be reasonable and have some common sense. You’re clearly a pro gun, no restrictions on ownership guy too. Good to see that.

I own guns,l and have a CWP... You don't really know me.

Trying to compare this amendment to the Right to Bear Arms isn't a very good comparison. The "Right to Bear Arms" specifically lists purposes for the right, the Birth Right Citizenship Amendment has no such limitations or restrictions listed.

They need to make an Amendment to the Amendment to change it. That's the way our government is designed.
 


🚨 JUST IN: Legal expert says President Trump is most likely within his right to end birthright citizenship for illegal aliens. The Supreme Court is currently deciding how to rule.

“There’s a very good argument that those who are here illegally or on a short-term basis do not qualify as being fully subject to U.S. jurisdiction in the way the framers intended."

“The 14th Amendment was designed to remedy the issue of former slaves not being considered citizens. And if you look at the language, it says, ‘subject to the jurisdiction’ of the United States. That phrase is significant.”
 
This was the point all along:

“There’s a very good argument that those who are here illegally or on a short-term basis do not qualify as being fully subject to U.S. jurisdiction in the way the framers intended."

This is common sense. It’s the same type of nuanced interpretation that has been used for the 2A forever. The fact the left was so hell bent on dragging this out in this way is crazy. There was a much more common sense approach to this, giving anyone on American soil, regardless of how they got here, full constitutional protections is nonsense. If we are forcing ourselves to do that we don’t have a sovereign nation.
 
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This win for Trump at the Supreme Court which removed the injunction blocking Trump’s EO to end “birthright citizenship;”was the first important step to “protecting” the American citizens.

You should listen to Stephen Miller’s take on “why” birthright citizenship is going to be ruled unconstitutional.

“Stephen Miller, White House deputy chief of staff, called birthright citizenship "the biggest, costliest scam in financial history" in an interview Monday on Newsmax, just weeks ahead of a Supreme Court hearing on the issue.”

"An illegal alien can come here nine months pregnant or on a tourist visa, nine months pregnant, have a baby. That baby is then declared an automatic citizen, which then entitles the entire family to come here and live here," Miller said. "And every one of them can get welfare. Yes, they can get unlimited welfare. Applying as the custodian of this citizen, so-called child."

“Miller argued that the current interpretation of the 14th Amendment is being misused in ways that place a significant financial and national security burden on the United States.
He called birthright citizenship "the biggest financial rip-off of Americans in history, not to mention the fact that it is the number one magnet for illegal immigration and invasion."

"The 14th Amendment, the provisions in question, were ratified for the children of freed slaves," he said. "You can go read the minutes of the debate. They were talking about the children of freed slaves after the Civil War. This was not meant to provide illegal alien children with automatic citizenship."

"Do you really think that in the 19th century, three-quarters of states all got together to pass an amendment to say that people that Congress has forbidden from entering here can have automatic children, citizens?" Miller said.
"The idea is so far beyond even the outer limits of imagination. No human being who suggests it should be taken seriously."

newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ste…

In the past, courts have IGNORED these key legal words:

“The 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, guarantees birthright citizenship to all individuals born in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction, a principle that has been upheld for over 125 years.”

Notice the word “AND.”

The person who has “citizenship” is a person born in the United States AND is “subject to its jurisdiction.”

It’s not one or the other.

It’s not just being born in America.

You MUST also be “subject to the United States jurisdiction.”

What does that mean?

“The phrase "subject to its jurisdiction" in U.S. law, particularly in the context of the Fourteenth Amendment, means that a person is under the complete legal authority and allegiance to the United States and not to any other country. This phrase is crucial in determining birthright citizenship, as it establishes that individuals born in the United States are citizens if they are subject to its jurisdiction, meaning they owe full allegiance to the U.S. and are not under the diplomatic or foreign allegiance of another nation.”

Did you catch that?

Past court cases can be revisited and TOSSED by the current Supreme Court, if the past ruling is unconstitutional.

Roe vs Wade is the biggest current example.

So here is the question:

Is an illegal alien a citizen?

Or are they “subject of the jurisdiction” of the country they came from?

Illegal aliens are not under the “jurisdiction” of the United States and are not afforded Constitutional rights.
Therefore, neither are ANY of their children, whether they are born in the U.S. or not.
Those children are also citizens of the country that their parents came from.

Mark this down.

Trump wrote the EO to end “birthright citizenship” because he ALREADY knows he was going to be sued and he welcomes the lawsuit.

Why?

Because Trump knows he will win at the Supreme Court because this current Supreme Court majority, is in the business of “restoring” the original intent of the Constitution.
 
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This win for Trump at the Supreme Court which removed the injunction blocking Trump’s EO to end “birthright citizenship;”was the first important step to “protecting” the American citizens.

You should listen to Stephen Miller’s take on “why” birthright citizenship is going to be ruled unconstitutional.

“Stephen Miller, White House deputy chief of staff, called birthright citizenship "the biggest, costliest scam in financial history" in an interview Monday on Newsmax, just weeks ahead of a Supreme Court hearing on the issue.”

"An illegal alien can come here nine months pregnant or on a tourist visa, nine months pregnant, have a baby. That baby is then declared an automatic citizen, which then entitles the entire family to come here and live here," Miller said. "And every one of them can get welfare. Yes, they can get unlimited welfare. Applying as the custodian of this citizen, so-called child."

“Miller argued that the current interpretation of the 14th Amendment is being misused in ways that place a significant financial and national security burden on the United States.
He called birthright citizenship "the biggest financial rip-off of Americans in history, not to mention the fact that it is the number one magnet for illegal immigration and invasion."

"The 14th Amendment, the provisions in question, were ratified for the children of freed slaves," he said. "You can go read the minutes of the debate. They were talking about the children of freed slaves after the Civil War. This was not meant to provide illegal alien children with automatic citizenship."

"Do you really think that in the 19th century, three-quarters of states all got together to pass an amendment to say that people that Congress has forbidden from entering here can have automatic children, citizens?" Miller said.
"The idea is so far beyond even the outer limits of imagination. No human being who suggests it should be taken seriously."

newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ste…

In the past, courts have IGNORED these key legal words:

“The 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868, guarantees birthright citizenship to all individuals born in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction, a principle that has been upheld for over 125 years.”

Notice the word “AND.”

The person who has “citizenship” is a person born in the United States AND is “subject to its jurisdiction.”

It’s not one or the other.

It’s not just being born in America.

You MUST also be “subject to the United States jurisdiction.”

What does that mean?

“The phrase "subject to its jurisdiction" in U.S. law, particularly in the context of the Fourteenth Amendment, means that a person is under the complete legal authority and allegiance to the United States and not to any other country. This phrase is crucial in determining birthright citizenship, as it establishes that individuals born in the United States are citizens if they are subject to its jurisdiction, meaning they owe full allegiance to the U.S. and are not under the diplomatic or foreign allegiance of another nation.”

Did you catch that?

Past court cases can be revisited and TOSSED by the current Supreme Court, if the past ruling is unconstitutional.

Roe vs Wade is the biggest current example.

So here is the question:

Is an illegal alien a citizen?

Or are they “subject of the jurisdiction” of the country they came from?

Illegal aliens are not under the “jurisdiction” of the United States and are not afforded Constitutional rights.
Therefore, neither are ANY of their children, whether they are born in the U.S. or not.
Those children are also citizens of the country that their parents came from.

Mark this down.

Trump wrote the EO to end “birthright citizenship” because he ALREADY knows he was going to be sued and he welcomes the lawsuit.

Why?

Because Trump knows he will win at the Supreme Court because this current Supreme Court majority, is in the business of “restoring” the original intent of the Constitution.
No one should listen to Stephen Miller at all, about anything.
 
This will end up with scotus.



Just listened to the Preliminary Injunction hearing in Seattle. Unbelievable. After the DOJ attorney made a compelling argument, citing controlling Supreme Court precedent about the meaning of the "subject to the jurisdiction" requirement in the Citizenship Clause, Senior Judge Coughenour attacked President Trump for undermining the Rule of Law, then signed the PI without even mentioning any of the controlling precedent. This is preposterous.

=====

It has a name. It's called Democracy Governance Rule of law and they implimented it into our court systems through liberal Prosecutors in liberal Judges chambers and they used it on you in your trial.

It's part of the United Nations attempt to change our court system into the ICC.


Supreme Court just stuck a pun in these activist judges

Bye you loser judges
 
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🚨 #BREAKING: President Trump says the administration will now run FULL STEAM AHEAD to fully ban birthright citizenship following the SCOTUS ruling

"That was meant for the babies of slaves, not meant for people trying to SCAM the system and come into the country on vacation." 🔥

"Hundreds of thousands of people are pouring into our country under birthright citizenship and it wasn't meant for that reason. It was meant for babies of SLAVES."
 
Are there plans for Marco Rubio to be deported? Or are they grandfathering in previous birthright citizens?
 
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