Can we just have truth?

[dbjork6317]

Trump Decried Millions Spent 'Making Mice Transgender.' It Was Cancer and Asthma Research

President Trump falsely claimed that Biden spent $8 million on 'making mice transgender,' but the real research was for human health.

www.rollingstone.com

No surprise, but the President’s “transgender mice” that he spoke about the other night don’t actually exist and the project he was speaking of was actually for research on asthma treatments.

So I think there’s a legitimate debate to be had here - do we believe the government should be funding projects/experiments whatever to research things like cancer treatments, asthma, etc? But we can’t have that debate because instead of making that argument, we instead get ridiculous untruths like the government was funding transgender mice.

The same is happening with social security. You think social security should be slashed or you think it should be privatized? Cool, just say that and then let’s come up with a policy that works. Instead the President spouts outright falsehoods about 150 year olds receiving social security benefits.

Why can’t we make the truth the centerpiece of our policy debates rather than exorbitant falsehoods?

 

[ANEW]

Why can’t we make the truth the centerpiece of our policy debates rather than exorbitant falsehoods?

Simple. Because Trump is Hitler.

 

[TheValley91]

Trump Decried Millions Spent 'Making Mice Transgender.' It Was Cancer and Asthma Research

President Trump falsely claimed that Biden spent $8 million on 'making mice transgender,' but the real research was for human health.

www.rollingstone.com

No surprise, but the President’s “transgender mice” that he spoke about the other night don’t actually exist and the project he was speaking of was actually for research on asthma treatments.

So I think there’s a legitimate debate to be had here - do we believe the government should be funding projects/experiments whatever to research things like cancer treatments, asthma, etc? But we can’t have that debate because instead of making that argument, we instead get ridiculous untruths like the government was funding transgender mice.

The same is happening with social security. You think social security should be slashed or you think it should be privatized? Cool, just say that and then let’s come up with a policy that works. Instead the President spouts outright falsehoods about 150 year olds receiving social security benefits.

Why can’t we make the truth the centerpiece of our policy debates rather than exorbitant falsehoods?

Because those would be losing points to the change the administration wants.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Simple. Because Trump is Hitler.

That was said before Congress and to the people by Biden?

 

[dpic73]

Trump Decried Millions Spent 'Making Mice Transgender.' It Was Cancer and Asthma Research

President Trump falsely claimed that Biden spent $8 million on 'making mice transgender,' but the real research was for human health.

www.rollingstone.com

No surprise, but the President’s “transgender mice” that he spoke about the other night don’t actually exist and the project he was speaking of was actually for research on asthma treatments.

So I think there’s a legitimate debate to be had here - do we believe the government should be funding projects/experiments whatever to research things like cancer treatments, asthma, etc? But we can’t have that debate because instead of making that argument, we instead get ridiculous untruths like the government was funding transgender mice.

The same is happening with social security. You think social security should be slashed or you think it should be privatized? Cool, just say that and then let’s come up with a policy that works. Instead the President spouts outright falsehoods about 150 year olds receiving social security benefits.

Why can’t we make the truth the centerpiece of our policy debates rather than exorbitant falsehoods?

Because he knows 100 million people will instantly believe him and will never hear the truth, which helps him inflame the culture wars.

IN before someone says:

a) Who determines what the truth is?
b) But what about Biden's lies?
c) Let me show you this catturd post that proves it's true!

 

[BYOGrits]

Is it true you left the country and bought a wife because American women think you're ugly and gay?

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Is it true you left the country and bought a wife because American women think you're ugly and gay?

More believable than transgender mice experiments

 

[scotchtiger]

I agree it’s a sad state of affairs that seemingly nobody can be trusted. Everyone has an angle and is selling something. Trump does it, dems do it, media does it, social media is engulfed by it. You can’t trust anything you hear anymore and that just sucks for everyone.

 

[ANEW]

I agree it’s a sad state of affairs that seemingly nobody can be trusted. Everyone has an angle and is selling something. Trump does it, dems do it, media does it, social media is engulfed by it. You can’t trust anything you hear anymore and that just sucks for everyone.

This is true.

 

[ANEW]

That was said before Congress and to the people by Biden?

Oh heck, i don't know. probably not. But you should get my point.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Oh heck, i don't know. probably not. But you should get my point.

Absolutely a lot of liberals go overboard with their descriptions of Trump. But I guess I have higher standards for the President in a formal address before Congress and the nation in what is not an off the cuff interview or press conference. I expect the rosy interpretation of your own side, the best case scenario descriptions of what your policies will do for the future being talked about as set in stone. Both sides do. The other side yells they're lying, etc. I get it. All politics. Hate it, but know Trump is just another politician when it comes to that. I just don't see why you wouldn't make sure things said in a speech like that are correct when they're something objective like that.

 

[dbjork6317]

I agree it’s a sad state of affairs that seemingly nobody can be trusted. Everyone has an angle and is selling something. Trump does it, dems do it, media does it, social media is engulfed by it. You can’t trust anything you hear anymore and that just sucks for everyone.

I can accept that politicians will spin things or accentuate one particular side, but we’ve devolved into just outright lies that get repeated even after they’ve been shown to be completely false. Makes it impossible to have any sensible movement on policy as everyone is debating in bad faith.

 

[ANEW]

I just don't see why you wouldn't make sure things said in a speech like that are correct when they're something objective like that.

I can agree with you there. I personally think that there is enough things that Trump has accomplished and enough stuff that could be used as sharp sticks or clubs against the democrats without exagerating (sp?).

 

[ANEW]

I can accept that politicians will spin things or accentuate one particular side, but we’ve devolved into just outright lies that get repeated even after they’ve been shown to be completely false. Makes it impossible to have any sensible movement on policy as everyone is debating in bad faith.

It makes it a little challenging for sure.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

I can agree with you there. I personally think that there is enough things that Trump has accomplished and enough stuff that could be used as sharp sticks or clubs against the democrats without exagerating (sp?).

Agreed. Which I think was the original point of the thread. Just frustrating.