Can we just have truth?

[dbjork6317]

Trump Decried Millions Spent 'Making Mice Transgender.' It Was Cancer and Asthma Research

President Trump falsely claimed that Biden spent $8 million on 'making mice transgender,' but the real research was for human health.

www.rollingstone.com

No surprise, but the President’s “transgender mice” that he spoke about the other night don’t actually exist and the project he was speaking of was actually for research on asthma treatments.

So I think there’s a legitimate debate to be had here - do we believe the government should be funding projects/experiments whatever to research things like cancer treatments, asthma, etc? But we can’t have that debate because instead of making that argument, we instead get ridiculous untruths like the government was funding transgender mice.

The same is happening with social security. You think social security should be slashed or you think it should be privatized? Cool, just say that and then let’s come up with a policy that works. Instead the President spouts outright falsehoods about 150 year olds receiving social security benefits.

Why can’t we make the truth the centerpiece of our policy debates rather than exorbitant falsehoods?

 

[ANEW]

Why can’t we make the truth the centerpiece of our policy debates rather than exorbitant falsehoods?

Simple. Because Trump is Hitler.

 

[TheValley91]

Trump Decried Millions Spent 'Making Mice Transgender.' It Was Cancer and Asthma Research

President Trump falsely claimed that Biden spent $8 million on 'making mice transgender,' but the real research was for human health.

www.rollingstone.com

No surprise, but the President’s “transgender mice” that he spoke about the other night don’t actually exist and the project he was speaking of was actually for research on asthma treatments.

So I think there’s a legitimate debate to be had here - do we believe the government should be funding projects/experiments whatever to research things like cancer treatments, asthma, etc? But we can’t have that debate because instead of making that argument, we instead get ridiculous untruths like the government was funding transgender mice.

The same is happening with social security. You think social security should be slashed or you think it should be privatized? Cool, just say that and then let’s come up with a policy that works. Instead the President spouts outright falsehoods about 150 year olds receiving social security benefits.

Why can’t we make the truth the centerpiece of our policy debates rather than exorbitant falsehoods?

Because those would be losing points to the change the administration wants.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Simple. Because Trump is Hitler.

That was said before Congress and to the people by Biden?

 

[dpic73]

Trump Decried Millions Spent 'Making Mice Transgender.' It Was Cancer and Asthma Research

President Trump falsely claimed that Biden spent $8 million on 'making mice transgender,' but the real research was for human health.

www.rollingstone.com

No surprise, but the President’s “transgender mice” that he spoke about the other night don’t actually exist and the project he was speaking of was actually for research on asthma treatments.

So I think there’s a legitimate debate to be had here - do we believe the government should be funding projects/experiments whatever to research things like cancer treatments, asthma, etc? But we can’t have that debate because instead of making that argument, we instead get ridiculous untruths like the government was funding transgender mice.

The same is happening with social security. You think social security should be slashed or you think it should be privatized? Cool, just say that and then let’s come up with a policy that works. Instead the President spouts outright falsehoods about 150 year olds receiving social security benefits.

Why can’t we make the truth the centerpiece of our policy debates rather than exorbitant falsehoods?

Because he knows 100 million people will instantly believe him and will never hear the truth, which helps him inflame the culture wars.

IN before someone says:

a) Who determines what the truth is?
b) But what about Biden's lies?
c) Let me show you this catturd post that proves it's true!

 

[BYOGrits]

Is it true you left the country and bought a wife because American women think you're ugly and gay?

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Is it true you left the country and bought a wife because American women think you're ugly and gay?

More believable than transgender mice experiments

 

[scotchtiger]

I agree it’s a sad state of affairs that seemingly nobody can be trusted. Everyone has an angle and is selling something. Trump does it, dems do it, media does it, social media is engulfed by it. You can’t trust anything you hear anymore and that just sucks for everyone.

 

[ANEW]

I agree it’s a sad state of affairs that seemingly nobody can be trusted. Everyone has an angle and is selling something. Trump does it, dems do it, media does it, social media is engulfed by it. You can’t trust anything you hear anymore and that just sucks for everyone.

This is true.

 

[ANEW]

That was said before Congress and to the people by Biden?

Oh heck, i don't know. probably not. But you should get my point.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Oh heck, i don't know. probably not. But you should get my point.

Absolutely a lot of liberals go overboard with their descriptions of Trump. But I guess I have higher standards for the President in a formal address before Congress and the nation in what is not an off the cuff interview or press conference. I expect the rosy interpretation of your own side, the best case scenario descriptions of what your policies will do for the future being talked about as set in stone. Both sides do. The other side yells they're lying, etc. I get it. All politics. Hate it, but know Trump is just another politician when it comes to that. I just don't see why you wouldn't make sure things said in a speech like that are correct when they're something objective like that.

 

[dbjork6317]

I agree it’s a sad state of affairs that seemingly nobody can be trusted. Everyone has an angle and is selling something. Trump does it, dems do it, media does it, social media is engulfed by it. You can’t trust anything you hear anymore and that just sucks for everyone.

I can accept that politicians will spin things or accentuate one particular side, but we’ve devolved into just outright lies that get repeated even after they’ve been shown to be completely false. Makes it impossible to have any sensible movement on policy as everyone is debating in bad faith.

 

[ANEW]

I just don't see why you wouldn't make sure things said in a speech like that are correct when they're something objective like that.

I can agree with you there. I personally think that there is enough things that Trump has accomplished and enough stuff that could be used as sharp sticks or clubs against the democrats without exagerating (sp?).

 

[ANEW]

I can accept that politicians will spin things or accentuate one particular side, but we’ve devolved into just outright lies that get repeated even after they’ve been shown to be completely false. Makes it impossible to have any sensible movement on policy as everyone is debating in bad faith.

It makes it a little challenging for sure.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

I can agree with you there. I personally think that there is enough things that Trump has accomplished and enough stuff that could be used as sharp sticks or clubs against the democrats without exagerating (sp?).

Agreed. Which I think was the original point of the thread. Just frustrating.

 

[firegiver]

Journalism is important for the people. Too bad Trump runs an anti journalism administration

 

[ANEW]

Journalism is important for the people. Too bad Trump runs an anti journalism administration

Thank God for bluesky.

 

[Allornothing]

Trump Decried Millions Spent 'Making Mice Transgender.' It Was Cancer and Asthma Research

President Trump falsely claimed that Biden spent $8 million on 'making mice transgender,' but the real research was for human health.

www.rollingstone.com

No surprise, but the President’s “transgender mice” that he spoke about the other night don’t actually exist and the project he was speaking of was actually for research on asthma treatments.

So I think there’s a legitimate debate to be had here - do we believe the government should be funding projects/experiments whatever to research things like cancer treatments, asthma, etc? But we can’t have that debate because instead of making that argument, we instead get ridiculous untruths like the government was funding transgender mice.

The same is happening with social security. You think social security should be slashed or you think it should be privatized? Cool, just say that and then let’s come up with a policy that works. Instead the President spouts outright falsehoods about 150 year olds receiving social security benefits.

Why can’t we make the truth the centerpiece of our policy debates rather than exorbitant falsehoods?

You say truth while posting rollingstone.

Please put down the crack pipe.

 

[Allornothing]

Because those would be losing points to the change the administration wants.

We can only hope so.

 

[dpic73]

Thank God for bluesky.

I must say, you have the perfect amount of snark. Not a raging ahole like some of your friends on the board - just the right amount, and I like it haha.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

You say truth while posting rollingstone.

Please put down the crack pipe.

Do you disagree with it?

 

[Allornothing]

Do you disagree with it?

I didn't even read it. They have a history of telling lies. Why should I bother? The whole party is a party of lies.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

I didn't even read it. They have a history of telling lies. Why should I bother? The whole party is a party of lies.

Did we spend 8mm on transgender mice like was stated as fact in the address to congresss?

 

[scotchtiger]

Journalism is important for the people. Too bad Trump runs an anti journalism administration

Journalism just about destroyed itself by losing objectivity.

 

[Dadar]

I agree it’s a sad state of affairs that seemingly nobody can be trusted. Everyone has an angle and is selling something. Trump does it, dems do it, media does it, social media is engulfed by it. You can’t trust anything you hear anymore and that just sucks for everyone.

It is a sad state, but comparing Trump and his fan boys to Dems is like comparing the devil to Barney Fife

 

[Allornothing]

Did we spend 8mm on transgender mice like was stated as fact in the address to congresss?

I didn't see the paperwork myself, but if you're dumb enough to believe this country doesn't waste billions of dollars a year for BS, then you do you.

Apparently you think you have figured out that we didn't spend 8 million on the mice queers (they weren't queer before we f**ked with them).

Put that aside for a second. Tell us about all the other FWA that was stated that was not true.

I'll wait.

 

[Allornothing]

Journalism is important for the people. Too bad Trump runs an anti journalism administration

F**k. You're one STUPID F**K!. You actually said this. The MSM has been lying for decades and this is what you come up with.

Your dad should have swallowed.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

I didn't see the paperwork myself, but if you're dumb enough to believe this country doesn't waste billions of dollars a year for BS, then you do you.

Apparently you think you have figured out that we didn't spend 8 million on the mice queers (they weren't queer before we f**ked with them).

Put that aside for a second. Tell us about all the other FWA that was stated that was not true.

I'll wait.

Where was I doing any of that? I have repeatedly said on this site that I do think there is waste and I am game to thoughtfully get rid of it.

Why is it so hard to just call out your guy for bald face lying? It was research on asthma.

The point of the thread was that you lose your argument with people when you straight up lie about stuff (like you and others are saying about MSM)

 

[dpic73]

Elon is so toxic

 

[dbjork6317]

Journalism just about destroyed itself by losing objectivity.

Journalism/journalists lost objectivity or the 24 hour news info-tainment personalities lost objectivity?

 

[scotchtiger]

Journalism/journalists lost objectivity or the 24 hour news info-tainment personalities lost objectivity?

All of the above.

 

[Allornothing]

Where was I doing any of that? I have repeatedly said on this site that I do think there is waste and I am game to thoughtfully get rid of it.

Why is it so hard to just call out your guy for bald face lying? It was research on asthma.

The point of the thread was that you lose your argument with people when you straight up lie about stuff (like you and others are saying about MSM)

That was exactly my point. If Trump says the right thing 999/1000, he will get no credit. He will be berated/impeached/prosecuted for the 1/1000 that he got it wrong.

He is the greatest POTUS of my lifetime, and I have no remorse in saying so.

The past 4 years, there was a vegetable in the WH and the media and folks like yourself nodded along. He's good. Sharp as a tac. Dude was brain dead while he was running for office.

Y'all were able to cheat enough to get him elected, and now you're suffering the consequences.

Barry the homo told us elections have consequences. Time to pay the piper.

Suck it up buttercup. It's going to be a glorious 4 years.