Pretty sure actual New Yorkers laugh at people like you.
Can you imagine...
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Pretty sure actual New Yorkers laugh at people like you.
They have for sure. Fortunately the opinions of others have of me is of no import.
yea that's definitely the vibe everyone ITT is getting from you
No - but conservatives are racists because liberals think conservatives don't think she belongs in jail.
That's what investigations are for.
I do love how people tend to judge the legal system before it's even finished with the process.
Situation is still murky. It will be sorted out in time.
I did, your grammar still sucks.
How do you investigate that when there were only two people and one can’t apeak for themselves? You think it’s going to be an honest investigation unless there is video evidence?
The same people saying they would have just complied are the same people who swear that having a gun in their home would put them in position to put down any intruder.
I guess iceheart, thought everyone, would side with the cop. So he could demonize people, that don’t vote for people like Hillary and Obama.
I would have to hear more details, but it certainly sounds like the cop should be in jail for many years.
I would have to hear more details, but it certainly sounds like the cop should be in jail for many years.
She should have murder, rather than man slaughter charges. I guess they are arguing there was no premeditation?
For starters,
Why did it take 3 days to charge her or arrest her or even detain her when she called in and reported the crime herself?
Why was she charged with manslaughter when this petty clearly meets every threshold of murder 2 based on TX state law? (Since she was uninvited in the victims home by unwelcome entry)
Why was she allowed to bind out, and for $1,000 for a charge of killing someone?
I am not making this a race issue. I'm making this a scary blue line issue.
Definitely and hope they don't make this an opportunity to make all cops bad like the NWA. There are shitty people in all job fields, she needs to be prosecuted like many lesser shit heads need to be fired. A lot of people that work with the public on a daily basis are total asses. This country has lost the value of being responsible and having honor and respect in what you do, no matter what you do. Do it as if you're helping row the boat and make a difference. God made the rich and the poor. Some of us couldn't handle riches no more than some could handle being poor. We just need to get back to esteemimg others as greatly as we esteem ourselves. That badge or job doesn't make you anything greater than any other to feel you have a right to do something wrong to someone. I'm sure she wouldn't won't this to happen to her!
Three pages and no one is even close to the problem here. Never give a gun to a woman.
This officer was completely in the wrong and should be charged with homocide, 2nd degree at worst - not manslaughter.
This is totally bizarre
There is something terribly wrong with this picture
Murder charges at a minimum
Nothing makes sense
There has to be mental illness or some sort of drugs out of mind
Police may try to cover this up but don’t put me on that jury
Do many people jump to racism as the first reason
This is crazy scary a police officer shot an unarmed man as there were lots of other options available to her
This was really bad judgment
A crime is in this mess
Will @iceheart08 find his testicles and give us his view of what he thinks this incident tells us about our country? ...or will he skulk away per his usual mo, afraid to engage because his pathetic argument has no merit.
The same way you investigate any other crime like this. Forensic evidence, video evidence, look for other witnesses.......
You know - a criminal investigation.
Or would you rather we just lock people up because "You know he or she did it! You just know it!" without any sort of trial or due process?
In reality - nothing. That's my point.
There is still a lot that needs to be investigated. For once - Manslaughter or Premeditated? (I may have the terms wrong). Were there extenuating circumstances (was she messed up on some sort of drugs to stay awake or something, or drunk off her ass, or whatever)? All of that can affect the sentencing guidelines. Is she just using this "accidentally went to the wrong apartment" to try to get a lighter sentence?
Get it wrong, and she could walk out on a technicality on appeal. It's really simple, and yet it isn't.
Like it or not - no matter what you are accused of, you have the right to a fair trial in this country. Do we want to do away with that? Let "mob rule" and "you know" determine who's guilty and innocent?
Think very carefully before you answer.
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Hahaha just quit. You were never ahead and you’re just making a fool of yourself.
I am pretty sure this police officer was off duty. She supposedly walked into the wrong apartment somehow by mistake and thought the person was an intruder. This is an incident between two private citizens in this case since the officer was off duty. I am not condoning it and even if she can sell the mistake story, then she needs to do time for manslaughter at minimum.
@iceheart08 in addition to your concern over this incident, I hope you take a little time to mourn our police officers that are getting gunned down daily in the routine process of doing their job. Multiple officers have been shot in the US this week on routine traffic stops. Digest that for a few minutes.
I am much more concerned for our officers getting shot in high numbers in the normal routine of work than I am when a very rare incident occurs where a police officer shoots someone wrongly. You cannot resist, not comply with instructions or do anything stupid when stopped by police and not expect to get shot. Even if you have a toothbrush in your pocket, if you reach when they are telling you not to, or run, then you deserve what you get. Law abiding people do not do any of the aforementioned. Darwins Law applies.
Furthermore, put yourself in an officers shoes in todays environment. I would be nervous at any stop at this time. I do not doubt some of these officers are on edge. Do not give them a reason to shoot. Normal law abiding citizens know what to do when interacting with police officers and everyone lives. Rare cases where there is a wrong committed, then the government has shown that they will prosecute and jail the officer.
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I did t realize we were drafting police officers now. I thought it was a job they chose to take.
I also thought we were free and innocent until proven guilty.
Btw the officer's initial explanation was she was justified because he didn't comply with a lawful order. She forgot she was off duty, and trespassing at the time, making it not a lawful order.
But ARE the police using that to try to smear this guy? The info was released but I don't think anyone is going to take that as a reason to shoot the guy. I haven't seen ANYONE try to justify this.
Personally I'm more interested in what the officer may have taken if she was working extra-long shifts. And if other officers are also doing that.
The problem we have is that fewer and fewer are choosing it. There have been officers who did bad stuff (Walter Scott incident, this thing, and there was a shooting of a CCW holder in Missouri I think) but the vast majority are trying to do a tough job. And they get shit on for it.
And stuff like this doesn't help. It would be nice if we could remember that the police are individuals and just because one does something terrible it doesn't mean they are all corrupt and evil.
While I agree that it shouldn't be a political statement (because I'm an Independent), this actually makes me laugh out loud.
Any time something happens where there's a clear advantage for one side of the aisle or another (in this case, another unarmed black man gets shot by the cops and blamed for it)... the disadvantaged side ALWAYS says not to make a political issue of this. Case in point, there's a thread IN THIS VERY FORUM (two in fact) where a sociology professor shot himself (in the arm) while protesting Trump. There's 60 plus replies mostly ridiculing him and the Dems... And guess what... not a single post saying that we shouldn't make a political issue of it.
So as an independent, I think you should just man up and say what you REALLY mean. IE Don't make a political issue of something that make MY political party look bad.
Haha what!?!? This shooting has nothing to do with either political party. Unless furher facts come up that indicate otherwise. My last statement regarding Democrats revolves around the fact that Icetiger is a well known and vocal Democrat that interjected politics into a non political Event.
Regarding the second shooting (of himself) was completely politics. Not sure if I’m following you correctly but you seem to be talking out of both sides of your mouth.
I mostly like this post b/c it's mostly true.
The woman screwed up plain and simple. I haven't heard anyone justify this, and I also haven't heard anyone say that this was an intentional murder of a man. Just a horrible accident that was handled badly. That happens. When I mess up, sometimes a computer system goes down and people get irritated. When cops mess up, people can die. That doesn't make cops any less human (or less prone to mistakes). The stakes are just WAY higher.
What REALLY bothers me though (and I think this is the root of the national problem we have with this), it than instead of owning her mistake. She not only tried to cover it up, but she tried to blame the innocent victim here for HER mistake. And that's not unusual. In nearly all these cases, the initial response by the police is to blame the victim. Then when the real facts come out, the police then start talking about how hard their jobs are, split second decisions, and things like that (which are all true). The thing is that if the cops were just up front with their mistakes, things would be a lot simpler for them.
Her trying to cover it up doesn't even bother me. I wouldn't expect her NOT to. That's what people do when they commit crimes.
I have heard some other theories - perhaps they had a relationship, etc - but nothing that would justify the murder. Most of them would push it from manslaughter to premeditated.
As far as justify it? I don't even know how you WOULD.
Dana Loesh (NRA Spokeswoman) made a good point (and she got skewered for it) - imagine if he had been armed and shot her when she opened the door? It's really scary because I doubt anyone would believe him that she broke in. The bad guy (girl) would be dead and the victim would be alive, but he'd be in a world of hurt.
THAT scenario makes you think.
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