Communist Kamala Harris Refuses Debate. Mentions Trump 71 times at DNC - No Ideas Just Trump Bad

[nytigerfan]

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The bar can only be set that low for a DEI candidate. If she shows up and she is not drunk, she will be declared the victor.

But, it's not going to be easy for her to show up. He took out Hillary and then he took out Biden. They know what they are up against. The Don is a spotlight whore and will be ready to shine for the debates. Don't you worry.

Gotcha.

You wouldn't blame Trump for chickening out, cause like everything else in this world, it is rigged against trump.

You also think Trump is a master debater who can easily crush anyone he debates, Kamala included, just by showing up.

Sure.

 

[fatpiggy]

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Gotcha.

You wouldn't blame Trump for chickening out, cause like everything else in this world, it is rigged against trump.

You also think Trump is a master debater who can easily crush anyone he debates, Kamala included, just by showing up.

Sure.

Don't you worry buddy. Trump will be there. And he will crush Kammy just like he did Hillary and Joe.

Kammy is going to have to defend 4 years of Bidenomics followed by defending price controls. After that she can defend taxes on unrealized gains.

There was a reason that she was almost replaced on the ticket this time around. And its because she is highly unlikeable.

 

[yoshi121374]

Don't you worry buddy. Trump will be there. And he will crush Kammy just like he did Hillary and Joe.

Kammy is going to have to defend 4 years of Bidenomics followed by defending price controls. After that she can defend taxes on unrealized gains.

There was a reason that she was almost replaced on the ticket this time around. And its because she is highly unlikeable.

Dude. You have some weird fanboy love if you feel like Trump is some master debater. His greatest skill is he lies so frequently and so aggressively that it literally can't be fact checked in real time fast enough.

Also, Hillary was a much,much better debater than he was. He has no ability to talk policy at all. Probably since he doesn't actually have any policies.

 

[fatpiggy]

Dude. You have some weird fanboy love if you feel like Trump is some master debater. His greatest skill is he lies so frequently and so aggressively that it literally can't be fact checked in real time fast enough.

Also, Hillary was a much,much better debater than he was. He has no ability to talk policy at all. Probably since he doesn't actually have any policies.

Just be honest with yourself. He crushed Hillary and he crushed Joe.

Whether he is a good debater or not i don't really care one way or another, but the proof is in the pudding. He walked away the winner after going up against something like 16 republicans in 2016. Same with Hilary and Joe. He is doing something right.

Personally i think its because he is used to the attention and tv production like atmosphere when it comes to these events. He truly dngaf and if he slips up so be it (but he would never admit to it, lol). The apprentice, the fame, the pressure of business .... he has been there before. Kamala hasn't.

They will set the bar very low for her. And to be honest, the debates wont matter too much one way or another unless a knock out punch is delievered like Trump did to Hilary and Joe.

If Kamala hold her own it will be a draw. Trump would have to have some major gaffes to lose ground during debates.

 

[nytigerfan]

Dude. You have some weird fanboy love if you feel like Trump is some master debater. His greatest skill is he lies so frequently and so aggressively that it literally can't be fact checked in real time fast enough.

Also, Hillary was a much,much better debater than he was. He has no ability to talk policy at all. Probably since he doesn't actually have any policies.

I still remember this gem from the Biden-trump debate.

"Many economists have said that your proposed tariffs will make inflation worse. Can you please explain why they are wrong?"

trump: "They won't. Joe Biden has let millions of terrorists enter our country."

 

[fatpiggy]

I still remember this gem from the Biden-trump debate.

"Many economists have said that your proposed tariffs will make inflation worse. Can you please explain why they are wrong?"

trump: "They won't. Joe Biden has let millions of terrorists enter our country."

He was right. Inflation averaged 1.9% during his term.

 

[nytigerfan]

He was right. Inflation averaged 1.9% during his term.

Higher than it was when Obama left office.

Of course, the question was about his proposed second-term policies, not what happened in his first term.

Please try to keep up.

 

[dpic73]

Just be honest with yourself. He crushed Hillary and he crushed Joe.

Whether he is a good debater or not i don't really care one way or another, but the proof is in the pudding. He walked away the winner after going up against something like 16 republicans in 2016. Same with Hilary and Joe. He is doing something right.

Personally i think its because he is used to the attention and tv production like atmosphere when it comes to these events. He truly dngaf and if he slips up so be it (but he would never admit to it, lol). The apprentice, the fame, the pressure of business .... he has been there before. Kamala hasn't.

They will set the bar very low for her. And to be honest, the debates wont matter too much one way or another unless a knock out punch is delievered like Trump did to Hilary and Joe.

If Kamala hold her own it will be a draw. Trump would have to have some major gaffes to lose ground during debates.

Writing on September 28, FiveThirtyEight found that every scientific poll to that point had suggested that voters thought Hillary Clinton performed better than Donald Trump in the debate.[39] A CNN/ORC poll of debate viewers found that 62% believed Clinton won, compared to 27% for Trump.[40] A poll conducted by Public Policy Polling found that 51% thought Clinton won the debate, while 40% thought Trump won.[41] A YouGov poll found that 57% of Americans declared Clinton the winner, while 30% declared Trump the winner.[42] A Politico/Morning Consult poll showed that 49% of likely voters thought that Clinton won the debate, while 26% thought that Trump won, and 25% were undecided.[43] Echelon Insights polling showed that Clinton won the debate 48–22, and that the debate made 41% of respondents more likely to vote for Clinton while 29% were more likely to vote for Trump.[44] A Reuters/Ipsos poll found that 56% of Americans thought Clinton did better, while 26% thought Trump did.[45] An NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll shows that 52% of likely voters who followed the debate chose Clinton was the winner, 21% chose Trump, and 26% did not choose either candidate.[46] A Gallup poll showed that more respondents thought Clinton did a better job than Trump by a margin of 61% to 27%.[47] A Fox News poll shows that 61% of respondents thought that Clinton won the debate while 21% said Trump did.[48] An ABC News/The Washington Post poll shows that 53% of respondents thought that Clinton won the debate while 18% said Trump did.[49] A CBS News poll shows that 32% of likely voters say that they thought better of Clinton after watching the debate, but only 10% of voters said that they thought better of Trump afterward.[50]

"A panel of Los Angeles Times analysts consisting of Doyle McManus and two others found that Clinton won all six of the debate segments. Among swing-state party officials and strategists surveyed by Politico, 79% agreed that Trump did not win the debate."

2016 United States presidential debates - Wikipedia

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[fatpiggy]

Higher than it was when Obama left office.

Of course, the question was about his proposed second-term policies, not what happened in his first term.

Please try to keep up.

There were a lot of things that were "supposed" to happen when Trump was President, but did not.

It's just more little boy crying wolf.

 

[fatpiggy]

Writing on September 28, FiveThirtyEight found that every scientific poll to that point had suggested that voters thought Hillary Clinton performed better than Donald Trump in the debate.[39] A CNN/ORC poll of debate viewers found that 62% believed Clinton won, compared to 27% for Trump.[40] A poll conducted by Public Policy Polling found that 51% thought Clinton won the debate, while 40% thought Trump won.[41] A YouGov poll found that 57% of Americans declared Clinton the winner, while 30% declared Trump the winner.[42] A Politico/Morning Consult poll showed that 49% of likely voters thought that Clinton won the debate, while 26% thought that Trump won, and 25% were undecided.[43] Echelon Insights polling showed that Clinton won the debate 48–22, and that the debate made 41% of respondents more likely to vote for Clinton while 29% were more likely to vote for Trump.[44] A Reuters/Ipsos poll found that 56% of Americans thought Clinton did better, while 26% thought Trump did.[45] An NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll shows that 52% of likely voters who followed the debate chose Clinton was the winner, 21% chose Trump, and 26% did not choose either candidate.[46] A Gallup poll showed that more respondents thought Clinton did a better job than Trump by a margin of 61% to 27%.[47] A Fox News poll shows that 61% of respondents thought that Clinton won the debate while 21% said Trump did.[48] An ABC News/The Washington Post poll shows that 53% of respondents thought that Clinton won the debate while 18% said Trump did.[49] A CBS News poll shows that 32% of likely voters say that they thought better of Clinton after watching the debate, but only 10% of voters said that they thought better of Trump afterward.[50]

"A panel of Los Angeles Times analysts consisting of Doyle McManus and two others found that Clinton won all six of the debate segments. Among swing-state party officials and strategists surveyed by Politico, 79% agreed that Trump did not win the debate."

2016 United States presidential debates - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Is that like second place, also known as the first loser?

You are telling me that she lost the election but won the debate? Go sell that somewhere else, pal.

 

[yoshi121374]

Just be honest with yourself. He crushed Hillary and he crushed Joe.

Whether he is a good debater or not i don't really care one way or another, but the proof is in the pudding. He walked away the winner after going up against something like 16 republicans in 2016. Same with Hilary and Joe. He is doing something right.

Personally i think its because he is used to the attention and tv production like atmosphere when it comes to these events. He truly dngaf and if he slips up so be it (but he would never admit to it, lol). The apprentice, the fame, the pressure of business .... he has been there before. Kamala hasn't.

They will set the bar very low for her. And to be honest, the debates wont matter too much one way or another unless a knock out punch is delievered like Trump did to Hilary and Joe.

If Kamala hold her own it will be a draw. Trump would have to have some major gaffes to lose ground during debates.

By all accepted debate rules he's pretty terrible. His greatest strength is that he isn't fact checked and it just frustrates his opponents. He is a blowhard who his brand of equally dumbass blowhards love. I do agree with you that he DGAF, but it's the truth he doesn't care about. He has literally never admitted a single time that he's ever been wrong. Seriously, I'd love someone to prove me wrong on this.

It's also really frustrating to watch as someone who enjoys debate and policy discussions. He would lose and high school debate, but his followers eat his schtick up.

 

[yoshi121374]

Is that like second place, also known as the first loser?

You are telling me that she lost the election but won the debate? Go sell that somewhere else, pal.

Yes. Are you telling me he beat Biden in the debates but lost?

 

[nytigerfan]

Yes. Are you telling me he beat Biden in the debates but lost?

@fatpiggy is laying traps for himself.

 

[lcctay]

MAGA doesn't have policies - they have grievances and empty platitudes.

Project 2025 is a catastrophe that should never happen.
Trump's Tariff proposal is idiotic and will do more damage than good
MAGA had the office for 4 years and ran on repealing and replacing the ACA, yet when they were in office didn't do anything.
MAGA doesn't know how to lead. They only know how to stoke division and rile up the dumbest and most gullible population of the US. It'll be a great day when that movement dies and their supporters go back to the shadows where they belong.

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Trump's tariff proposal is to bring China inline not to steal our intellectual property and be a poor trade partner. Tell me why has Biden not eliminated these tariffs and in fact has enacted additional export limits on China? (which I have been involved in). So your argument about tariffs on China is vacant and has no meaning - it is simply Democrat propaganda.

Did you want Trump to repeal the ACA? I did but at least Trump ended the Federal Income Tax penalty if you did not enroll in a compliant plan. I want the plan to be repealed but Trump did not have the votes in the House/Senate to repeal it fully. Just another advancement of Socialism by Dems to try to institute Government Run Health Care at the Federal level. So do you also want to eliminate private health care as Kamal Harris has proposed? Dems are Communists - they want to control the people by the Federal government just like China, Russia, Cuba, and Venezuela.

Here is Project 2025:

• Secure the border, finish building the wall, and deport illegal aliens
• De-weaponize the Federal Government by increasing accountability and oversight of the FBI and DOJ
• Unleash American energy production to reduce energy prices
• Cut the growth of government spending to reduce inflation
• Make federal bureaucrats more accountable to the democratically elected President and Congress
• Improve education by moving control and funding of education from DC bureaucrats directly to parents and state and local governments
• Ban biological males from competing in women's sports

What are you against in this agenda?

The only party that tries to rile up the people are the Democrats - racism, sexism, ageism, class warfare and finally censorship of speech that does not align with the elites of Communist thinking. This is not happening on the Trump side not matter how you want to cry and gnash your teeth.

I laugh at your characterization of Republicans and Trump - it is exactly what the Democrats are. Go ahead and be a sheep being led by the Communist Party of America.

 

[lcctay]

Dude. You have some weird fanboy love if you feel like Trump is some master debater. His greatest skill is he lies so frequently and so aggressively that it literally can't be fact checked in real time fast enough.

Also, Hillary was a much,much better debater than he was. He has no ability to talk policy at all. Probably since he doesn't actually have any policies.

I agree that Trump is not a good debater because he can ramble and has trouble staying on message and communicating a message - he is not the best communicator but his actual policies are right and mostly on target - better yet - they are not Communist.

Kamala is stupid so her debate will be just to try to create some emotional outburst or win some emotional context without discussing the debacle of the past 4 years.

 

[yoshi121374]

Trump's tariff proposal is to bring China inline not to steal our intellectual property and be a poor trade partner. Tell me why has Biden not eliminated these tariffs and in fact has enacted additional export limits on China? (which I have been involved in). So your argument about tariffs on China is vacant and has no meaning - it is simply Democrat propaganda.

Did you want Trump to repeal the ACA? I did but at least Trump ended the Federal Income Tax penalty if you did not enroll in a compliant plan. I want the plan to be repealed but Trump did not have the votes in the House/Senate to repeal it fully. Just another advancement of Socialism by Dems to try to institute Government Run Health Care at the Federal level. So do you also want to eliminate private health care as Kamal Harris has proposed? Dems are Communists - they want to control the people by the Federal government just like China, Russia, Cuba, and Venezuela.

Here is Project 2025:

• Secure the border, finish building the wall, and deport illegal aliens
• De-weaponize the Federal Government by increasing accountability and oversight of the FBI and DOJ
• Unleash American energy production to reduce energy prices
• Cut the growth of government spending to reduce inflation
• Make federal bureaucrats more accountable to the democratically elected President and Congress
• Improve education by moving control and funding of education from DC bureaucrats directly to parents and state and local governments
• Ban biological males from competing in women's sports

What are you against in this agenda?

The only party that tries to rile up the people are the Democrats - racism, sexism, ageism, class warfare and finally censorship of speech that does not align with the elites of Communist thinking. This is not happening on the Trump side not matter how you want to cry and gnash your teeth.

I laugh at your characterization of Republicans and Trump - it is exactly what the Democrats are. Go ahead and be a sheep being led by the Communist Party of America.

So Project 2025 is his plan? Thanks for admitting it.

And you do realize that those aren't the points in the plan that people are upset about?

 

[WapPride]

Trump's tariff proposal is to bring China inline not to steal our intellectual property and be a poor trade partner. Tell me why has Biden not eliminated these tariffs and in fact has enacted additional export limits on China? (which I have been involved in). So your argument about tariffs on China is vacant and has no meaning - it is simply Democrat propaganda.

Did you want Trump to repeal the ACA? I did but at least Trump ended the Federal Income Tax penalty if you did not enroll in a compliant plan. I want the plan to be repealed but Trump did not have the votes in the House/Senate to repeal it fully. Just another advancement of Socialism by Dems to try to institute Government Run Health Care at the Federal level. So do you also want to eliminate private health care as Kamal Harris has proposed? Dems are Communists - they want to control the people by the Federal government just like China, Russia, Cuba, and Venezuela.

Here is Project 2025:

• Secure the border, finish building the wall, and deport illegal aliens
• De-weaponize the Federal Government by increasing accountability and oversight of the FBI and DOJ
• Unleash American energy production to reduce energy prices
• Cut the growth of government spending to reduce inflation
• Make federal bureaucrats more accountable to the democratically elected President and Congress
• Improve education by moving control and funding of education from DC bureaucrats directly to parents and state and local governments
• Ban biological males from competing in women's sports

What are you against in this agenda?

The only party that tries to rile up the people are the Democrats - racism, sexism, ageism, class warfare and finally censorship of speech that does not align with the elites of Communist thinking. This is not happening on the Trump side not matter how you want to cry and gnash your teeth.

I laugh at your characterization of Republicans and Trump - it is exactly what the Democrats are. Go ahead and be a sheep being led by the Communist Party of America.

His tariff hikes proposal is what i have issue with.

• Candidate Trump has proposed significant tariff hikes as part of his presidential campaign; we estimate that if imposed, his proposed tariff increases would hike taxes by another $524 billion annually and shrink GDP by at least 0.8 percent, the capital stock by 0.7 percent, and employment by 684,000 full-time equivalent jobs. Our estimates do not capture the effects of retaliation, nor the additional harms that would stem from starting a global trade war.https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs-biden-tariffs/

I don't have an issue with the ACA. Privatized healthcare and the health insurance industry are anchors on this country and have led to more personal bankruptcies than any other policy i can think of. It pigeonholes workers into jobs due to fear of leaving and not having health coverage. It ensures people don't go to doctors for routine checkups, and only go when it's an emergency which ultimately leads to more outstanding medical debt and pressure on our hospital systems. Having a universal healthcare plan would undoubtedly be beneficial, at least in my opinion.

That's a beautifully muted bullet point explanation of Project 2025. There is literally nothing in Project2025 I support, nor does the vast majority of the country.

Your overuse of "communist" in your post leads me to believe you're not a very serious person. There's nothing communist about any of her policies, and if you think otherwise I suggest you go back to school and take a civics class.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

His tariff hikes proposal is what i have issue with.

• Candidate Trump has proposed significant tariff hikes as part of his presidential campaign; we estimate that if imposed, his proposed tariff increases would hike taxes by another $524 billion annually and shrink GDP by at least 0.8 percent, the capital stock by 0.7 percent, and employment by 684,000 full-time equivalent jobs. Our estimates do not capture the effects of retaliation, nor the additional harms that would stem from starting a global trade war.https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs-biden-tariffs/

I don't have an issue with the ACA. Privatized healthcare and the health insurance industry are anchors on this country and have led to more personal bankruptcies than any other policy i can think of. It pigeonholes workers into jobs due to fear of leaving and not having health coverage. It ensures people don't go to doctors for routine checkups, and only go when it's an emergency which ultimately leads to more outstanding medical debt and pressure on our hospital systems. Having a universal healthcare plan would undoubtedly be beneficial, at least in my opinion.

That's a beautifully muted bullet point explanation of Project 2025. There is literally nothing in Project2025 I support, nor does the vast majority of the country.

Your overuse of "communist" in your post leads me to believe you're not a very serious person. There's nothing communist about any of her policies, and if you think otherwise I suggest you go back to school and take a civics class.

Thank you for weighing in.

 

[WapPride]

I'm still flabbergasted at republicans who think the last 4 years were some hellscape.

The DOW has DOUBLED since March 2020 (yes, i'm cherry picking for effect), inflation has dropped to below 3% faster than any other country in the world, wage growth is back to outpacing inflation, labor force participation is up (despite the revised numbers), unemployment rates are low, and BoA released a report saying they're no longer tracking a potential recession.

No surprise the only thing MAGA can harp on now is grievance politics and social issues. The Democrats, yet again, have saved this country from another shitty economic collapse brought on by Republican governance. 🎣

 

[scotchtiger]

I don't have an issue with the ACA. Privatized healthcare and the health insurance industry are anchors on this country and have led to more personal bankruptcies than any other policy i can think of. It pigeonholes workers into jobs due to fear of leaving and not having health coverage. It ensures people don't go to doctors for routine checkups, and only go when it's an emergency which ultimately leads to more outstanding medical debt and pressure on our hospital systems. Having a universal healthcare plan would undoubtedly be beneficial, at least in my opinion.

I go back to root cause. Do I think there are major flaws in our healthcare system? Yes I do. But it also incentivizes innovation and talent in a way that single payer healthcare does not. That gives the US (and by extension those who access our technology and pharmaceuticals internationally) a level of healthcare that would not be achieved otherwise.

The root cause of our exceptionally high healthcare costs is an unhealthy population, primarily due to lifestyle, diet and food supply. Our obesity rate is now 43%!!! Europe is around 13%. Example countries include Norway and Switzerland at 8%; Belgium, Netherlands and Italy at 10%, France and Denmark at 11%, etc.

Our obesity and resulting chronic health condition epidemic is a massive massive problem. Every conversation around healthcare and healthcare costs should begin and end with aggressively attacking this issue. And we need to stop coddling it with body positivity movements. It's not okay to be obese and you are a burden on our healthcare system and your fellow Americans.

 

[WapPride]

I go back to root cause. Do I think there are major flaws in our healthcare system? Yes I do. But it also incentivizes innovation and talent in a way that single payer healthcare does not. That gives the US (and by extension those who access our technology and pharmaceuticals internationally) a level of healthcare that would not be achieved otherwise.

The root cause of our exceptionally high healthcare costs is an unhealthy population, primarily due to lifestyle, diet and food supply. Our obesity rate is now 43%!!! Europe is around 13%. Example countries include Norway and Switzerland at 8%; Belgium, Netherlands and Italy at 10%, France and Denmark at 11%, etc.

Our obesity and resulting chronic health condition epidemic is a massive massive problem. Every conversation around healthcare and healthcare costs should begin and end with aggressively attacking this issue. And we need to stop coddling it with body positivity movements. It's not okay to be obese and you are a burden on our healthcare system and your fellow Americans.

I don't disagree with really any of this. I think R&D is one thing that most likely needs to continue to be privatized and continually subsidized by government grants/funding. I don't really agree with the whole concept of privatize profits and socialize losses, which is what we deal with today in really every different industry, but i think that's a different discussion. Honestly, just break up the health insurance industry and i'd be happy. They're a goddamn menace who deserves only bad things.

 

[fatpiggy]

I'm still flabbergasted at republicans who think the last 4 years were some hellscape.

The DOW has DOUBLED since March 2020 (yes, i'm cherry picking for effect), inflation has dropped to below 3% faster than any other country in the world, wage growth is back to outpacing inflation, labor force participation is up (despite the revised numbers), unemployment rates are low, and BoA released a report saying they're no longer tracking a potential recession.

No surprise the only thing MAGA can harp on now is grievance politics and social issues. The Democrats, yet again, have saved this country from another shitty economic collapse brought on by Republican governance. 🎣

Because inflation was at 9%.

Inflation would have been worse if democrats had their way

3% inflation is 50% higher than the stated goal. Inflation is a tax on responsible citizens.

The border is a mess. Democratic mayors are begging for mercy along with republican colleagues and the admin, border czar, have done nothing about it.

Crime has gone through the roof.

And the numbers are fudged. Jobs were
Reduced by 800k +


There was NO democratic primary. Millions were denied the opportunity to center the party.

We have entered another forever war.

We are weaponizing rhe justice system.

Just what is there not to like? lol🤡

A market can stay irrational much longer than you can stay solvent.

 

[WapPride]

The grownups are talking, go back to your hole.

 

[fatpiggy]

The grownups are talking, go back to your hole.

 

[WapPride]

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It's the same bill that Biden proposed earlier this year/last year that Trump and his sycophants opposed. This isn't new. There was funding in that for border wall construction/repairs in certain areas.

It helps if you read more than just headlines.

 

[fatpiggy]

It's the same bill that Biden proposed earlier this year/last year that Trump and his sycophants opposed. This isn't new. There was funding in that for border wall construction/repairs in certain areas.

It helps if you read more than just headlines.

Receipts

 

[WapPride]

Receipts

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It is a stupid idea, but in order to get bipartisan support for the bill in order for it to pass the house you have to make concessions. It's called compromise - i know it's a foreign concept to MAGA.

 

[fatpiggy]

It is a stupid idea, but in order to get bipartisan support for the bill in order for it to pass the house you have to make concessions. It's called compromise - i know it's a foreign concept to MAGA.

LOL.

Why didn't the border czar do that 3.5 years ago?

She is totally incompetent. In way over her head. Thats what happens when you have selections instead of elections. Kamala would never have won a contested primary.

 

[fatpiggy]