Crazy Consequences of LA Fires

[PalmettoTiger1]

My wife and I are talking about crazy consequences

Imagine all the paper cash burnt up and lost

is it millions or what

Jewelry same thing millions or what

Where are these people going to live as the city is rebuilt

It will take years

This is a huge FEMA issue

 

[CUTiger1977]

 

[Allornothing]

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This whole thing is so freaking sad for all the people of Cali (my sister lives out there).

I don't know what the truth is, but much could have been done YEARS ago, but Gov "BRYLCREEM" hasn't did anything for the state. He is not protecting the people of his state, which should be his FIRST priority.

 

[DW4_2016]

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Man, spoken like a true idiot. Do you truly believe this? Do you think they prioritize rich people over middle class homes?

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

This whole thing is so freaking sad for all the people of Cali (my sister lives out there).

I don't know what the truth is, but much could have been done YEARS ago, but Gov "BRYLCREEM" hasn't did anything for the state. He is not protecting the people of his state, which should be his FIRST priority.

Having watched the newscast and listened to people from California there is a huge anger at the moment

If a logical person points out the government problems that is NOT FROM THE AREA that person is demonized as not understanding their problem

I understand the problem totally

People made lots of poor choices on building in remote areas along with poor infrastructure to protect the properties along with huge lack of yearly brush and fire maintenance along with a terrible dry time having high winds

Perfect everything fail at one time

If I were there I might be in the same boat

Main point at the moment is stop the fires and preserve human life and all life

Property saving to follow

 

[dpic73]

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Simpleton chud who believes everything he sees on Xchan

 

[dpic73]

This whole thing is so freaking sad for all the people of Cali (my sister lives out there).

I don't know what the truth is, but much could have been done YEARS ago, but Gov "BRYLCREEM" hasn't did anything for the state. He is not protecting the people of his state, which should be his FIRST priority.

Of all the people who don't know what they're talking about, you know the least.

 

[CUTiger1977]

 

[DW4_2016]

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What a piece of shit you are. Please continue to post this nonsense. It shows us exactly who you are

 

[DW4_2016]

Having watched the newscast and listened to people from California there is a huge anger at the moment

If a logical person points out the government problems that is NOT FROM THE AREA that person is demonized as not understanding their problem

I understand the problem totally

People made lots of poor choices on building in remote areas along with poor infrastructure to protect the properties along with huge lack of yearly brush and fire maintenance along with a terrible dry time having high winds

Perfect everything fail at one time

If I were there I might be in the same boat

Main point at the moment is stop the fires and preserve human life and all life

Property saving to follow

You do not understand shit, but I love your self confidence in stupidity.

 

[dpic73]

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[southerncaltiger]

Having watched the newscast and listened to people from California there is a huge anger at the moment

If a logical person points out the government problems that is NOT FROM THE AREA that person is demonized as not understanding their problem

I understand the problem totally

People made lots of poor choices on building in remote areas along with poor infrastructure to protect the properties along with huge lack of yearly brush and fire maintenance along with a terrible dry time having high winds

Perfect everything fail at one time

If I were there I might be in the same boat

Main point at the moment is stop the fires and preserve human life and all life

Property saving to follow

I will say this:

If you’re not living here, if you’re not impacted by what’s happening, and you don’t have significant first-hand experience in both California politics AND the California regulatory arena, it is VERY unlikely that you understand the problems completely by watching some of the idiotic shit I see being posted on X.

Other points in your post, I agree with 👍.

 

[CUTiger1977]

Do you think they prioritize rich people over middle class homes?

 

[Allornothing]

You do not understand shit, but I love your self confidence in stupidity.

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You're perfect though. Am I right?

 

[DW4_2016]

You're perfect though. Am I right?

No. I’m experiencing this firsthand. I assume you can admit you wouldn’t be in position to tell me what’s happening at my own house? Don’t worry, Catturd will tell you what to think in a few days

 

[DW4_2016]

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That’s not an answer in any way to my question. Are you too retarded to read it?

 

[CUTiger1977]

 

[dpic73]

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Liar

Zelenskyy offers firefighting help from Ukraine for Los Angeles-area wildfires: "Nothing short of extraordinary"

In the wake of multiple wildfires that have torched tens of thousands of acres of Los Angeles County, local firefighters and first responders have received support from across the world.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[CUTiger1977]

 

[southerncaltiger]

Wow, what a bunch of bullshit in this post above. As someone who knows directly about this material let me set a few things straight.

1. The actions of PG&E have nothing to do with the fires in the Los Angeles area. That is completely outside of their service territory.
2. Commissioner Karen Douglas, whose mobile number is in the phone I’m typing on, didn’t work for PG&E. None of the 5 commissioners in that clip ever worked for PG&E based on their bios, and there’s a reason for that. Look up former SCE Executive/former CPUC Chair Mike Peevey and connect the obvious dots.
3. Former Commissioner Carla Peterman DOES now work for PG&E. Didn’t get that fact right, did they?
4. Newsom is an idiot, but he doesn’t tell PG&E who to hire.

 

[hopefultiger13]

Having watched the newscast and listened to people from California there is a huge anger at the moment

If a logical person points out the government problems that is NOT FROM THE AREA that person is demonized as not understanding their problem

I understand the problem totally

People made lots of poor choices on building in remote areas along with poor infrastructure to protect the properties along with huge lack of yearly brush and fire maintenance along with a terrible dry time having high winds

Perfect everything fail at one time

If I were there I might be in the same boat

Main point at the moment is stop the fires and preserve human life and all life

Property saving to follow

I like this post for sure. And I think you hit the nail on the head with the poor choices comment. It's REALLY COOL to put a house up on the side of steep hills and in these canyons. The view is fantastic and will always be there as no one can build on air to block the views. People want them, businesses want them, and you bet your ass the builders want to build them. That's a lot of money wanting to do stuff and you can bet that ideology aside, politicians are going to answer the bell when there's enough money on the table.

The problem is that once these houses are up, the builders are done. They made their money and they were working to maximize profits (as they should be). So you can bet they only did what they had to do as far as roads and infrastructure goes. Now the city has to come back through and put in additional infrastructure systems. That's not making anyone money and who wants to pay extra taxes to put in water storage, pumps, water lines, extra fire/police stations, to cover an emergency that may never come?

It's easy to cut budgets, not put in infrastructure when that budget/infrastructure is running just fine to cover day to day needs. Right up to the point where reality slaps you right in the face.

 

[southerncaltiger]

@hopefultiger13 here's one that encompasses your points above in addition to O&M that often goes lacking in these places that shouldn't have been granted building permits to begin with. Similar to Pacific Palisades and their land subsidence issues, ShoreCliffs in San Clemente is also sliding...well, the houses that were built in the 60's & 70's on fill lots are. Closer to the downtown, the slope is failing and affecting the Surfliner trains.

Shorecliffs

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

I will say this:

If you’re not living here, if you’re not impacted by what’s happening, and you don’t have significant first-hand experience in both California politics AND the California regulatory arena, it is VERY unlikely that you understand the problems completely by watching some of the idiotic shit I see being posted on X.

Other points in your post, I agree with 👍.

I used to do liquid fuels contracting on military facilities all over California

I held my breath every time I turned in paperwork for regulatory approval as the military had the authority to tell the local government to buzz off but required we comply with every regulation which strangely I was totally OK with as I felt it helped keep facilities safer

I will say that in many cases there were some folks that really were not interested in doing good work but being a roadblock

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

One thing that is going to be really concerning based on my understanding of the earth and hills in California

OK the hills are now bare

Rains come in Spring

Mudslides come with rains

Huge hills slide down into roads houses beaches

Does this sound like a disaster going to happen is the areas burnt get heavy rains?

Just asking as that is what I always had local people tell me about the mudslides out there

 

[dpic73]

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Hey man, just wanted to circle back to let you know you spread yet another lie when you were punked by a Russian bot. Are you ever embarrassed about all the false propaganda you spread?

"On Saturday, the Russian Telegram channel Military Observer first posted, "According to Ukrainian sources, 8 mansions owned by high-ranking Ukrainian military personnel were burned during large-scale wildfires in Los Angeles. The total value of these properties amounts to $90 million and was allegedly purchased with funds provided by the West as part of economic aid to Kyiv after the war began."

Subsequent posts named Valerii Zaluzhnyi, former Ukrainian four-star general and current ambassador of Ukraine to the United Kingdom, as being among those who have lost their homes.

The initial post on Telegram did indeed include the hashtag "сатира" (Russian for satire), but subsequent reposts lacked any mention that it was made in jest. That was true as the story began to circulate on Facebook and X. Yet, even as "satire," it isn't clear where the humor lies in the original post, except possibly to Russian audiences who might find joy that any Ukrainian would see their home burns down in the devastating California fires."

Satire Or Disinformation: Ukrainian Generals Lost Homes In LA Fires

A 'satirical' post from a Russia Telegram channel suggested that Ukrainian generals owned homes now destroyed in the Los Angeles fires.

www.forbes.com

 

[southerncaltiger]

One thing that is going to be really concerning based on my understanding of the earth and hills in California

OK the hills are now bare

Rains come in Spring

Mudslides come with rains

Huge hills slide down into roads houses beaches

Does this sound like a disaster going to happen is the areas burnt get heavy rains?

Just asking as that is what I always had local people tell me about the mudslides out there

Oh, it’s right up there with Death and Taxes as far as certainty goes.

Google “Montecito Mudslides”. The fire (Thomas Fire) that was attributed to SCE caused us a lot of headaches and as the liaison with California DF&W, a lot of headaches for me personally.

BTW, almost as certain was Newsom’s Executive Order suspending normal CEQA and Ca Coastal Commission (also my agency) permitting requirements for coastal zone rebuilds. Anyone who was surprised by that initial move doesn’t know their ass from a hole in the ground as far as Ca policy goes.

 

[southerncaltiger]

I used to do liquid fuels contracting on military facilities all over California

I held my breath every time I turned in paperwork for regulatory approval as the military had the authority to tell the local government to buzz off but required we comply with every regulation which strangely I was totally OK with as I felt it helped keep facilities safer

I will say that in many cases there were some folks that really were not interested in doing good work but being a roadblock

Can appreciate what you’re saying. As a regulatory agency liaison, navigating the California regulatory maze is difficult enough. Throw in the the Fed vs. State vs. Local authority pissing contests that rear their ugly head and it makes for some SMH moments, as I’m sure you’ve seen.

As but one example, I constantly had to remind the well-intentioned, but woefully misinformed (stop me if you’ve seen this on Tiger Illustrated, 🤣) environmental activists that I interacted with…that the final choice for the land use of our Former Nuclear Plant was up to The Department of the Navy, NOT SCE; they were our landlords. “Oh you should deed the land back to the State Lands Commission and they can expand San Onofre State Beach!”

You know what? That’s a great freaking idea. You should go talk to Camp Pendleton about that.

Thankfully, there are enough managerial & director level folks at these agencies out here who understand the bigger picture and they want to make stuff happen. Usually, the staffers who create roadblocks for the sake of their own egos get coached up by their leaders.

There’s a benefit of age & experience that ALL of our younger selves could benefit from, right?

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Can appreciate what you’re saying. As a regulatory agency liaison, navigating the California regulatory maze is difficult enough. Throw in the the Fed vs. State vs. Local authority pissing contests that rear their ugly head and it makes for some SMH moments, as I’m sure you’ve seen.

As but one example, I constantly had to remind the well-intentioned, but woefully misinformed (stop me if you’ve seen this on Tiger Illustrated, 🤣) environmental activists that I interacted with…that the final choice for the land use of our Former Nuclear Plant was up to The Department of the Navy, NOT SCE; they were our landlords. “Oh you should deed the land back to the State Lands Commission and they can expand San Onofre State Beach!”

You know what? That’s a great freaking idea. You should go talk to Camp Pendleton about that.

Thankfully, there are enough managerial & director level folks at these agencies out here who understand the bigger picture and they want to make stuff happen. Usually, the staffers who create roadblocks for the sake of their own egos get coached up by their leaders.

There’s a benefit of age & experience that ALL of our younger selves could benefit from, right?

I see you deal in pragmatism and reality

You must earn the money pay the bills at your house

 

[southerncaltiger]

I see you deal in pragmatism and reality

You must earn the money pay the bills at your house

Sincerely appreciate your comment.

Wife was (retired in August) a VP at Marsh McLennan (Risk Management/Insurance). She more than pulled/pulls her weight and is a true partner that helped get us where we are today.