DEI
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What a tired attempt to be relevant when we all know damn good and well none of this happened to you and besides, DEI didn't even start in it's current form until 2020, after you retired.
Oh I know what it is.
Maybe you can bring back your racism under another label next time. DEI is dead
Not commenting on DEI, but this statement of yours. Diversity is absolutely a strength. Diversity of thought, experience, background, etc creates a better organization in my experience.
Forced diversity? No. But When I build a team, I WANT it to be diverse. Over my 40 year career, I have seen diversity drive growth and change. I have seen homogenous organizations stagnate because they always start to believe their own 💩.
@yoshi121374
While we have been having productive discussion, what do you think when you see this? Because i know you don't want to watch the whole video, im talking about the :40 second to 1:15 minute mark. Hopefully you can work through 35 seconds of O'keefe
He specifically says he wants his work force to gravitate away from white people.
Question 1) Is this an appropriate goal?
Question 2) Would it be ok if the person said the opposite and wanted to transition his workforce away from black or (insert race) people?
Question 3) Should white people work for State Farm knowing this?
While we have been having productive discussion, what do you think when you see this? Because i know you don't want to watch the whole video, im talking about the :40 second to 1:15 minute mark. Hopefully you can work through 35 seconds of O'keefe
He specifically says he wants his work force to gravitate away from white people.
Question 1) Is this an appropriate goal?
Question 2) Would it be ok if the person said the opposite and wanted to transition his workforce away from black or (insert race) people?
Question 3) Should white people work for State Farm knowing this?
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Thanks.
I'd like to give the guy a chance to explain further, and give him a chance for context. I also don't have full faith that this hasn't been edited to potentially take out any qualifications he may have had.
My feeling is that what he is suggesting is that State Farm employee percentage is very white, and they need to be more open to hiring other ethnicities to more closely align with their customer base.
That said, If they are intentionally not hiring qualified White candidates in favor of unqualified candidates solely due to ethnicity I disagree with that policy.
What some see as discrimination is in many cases an effort to identify existing discriminations on their organization.
Speaking for myself, I have hired 1000's of employees in my career, literally. It is extremely easy to allow yourself to hire someone who you have more in common with, historically most hiring managers have been White men. I think the intent of many corporate DEI programs was to make sure that hiring managers were aware of this, oftentimes unintentional, preference. Training programs I have been part of have not at all demonized white folks, or tried to tell us not to hire white folks, but have focused on the values of being open to different people and hiring based on their qualifications ans fit for the job. I have never worked anywhere where we had a score for diversity, or were judged for not being diverse. No company has ever penalized us for hiring white folks.
I think that DEI trainings have a value in the professional environment. I also don't agree that DEI and quotas are the same thing, although they seem to be equated in your arguments.
I can't believe I watched that but I agree with everything @yoshi121374 said because I too feel like it's missing context. It seemed like he was saying he was "interpreting" what his superiors wanted him to do as the Innovation Manager but you couldn't tell if he really agreed with it or not. If he was specifically asked to do that it's wrong, but he may be doing it because he thinks he's honoring the company's wishes. It's hard to tell...
All I got to say is these dudes that O'Keefe catches need to start sweeping left more when they see a honey pot to prevent these types of ambushes lol. Let's make plain Janes great again. 😅
Thanks
What some see as discrimination is in many cases an effort to identify existing discriminations on their organization.
This is one valid explanation i had not thought of. Of course, that would require State Farm admitting that they currently discriminate against people of color and they are currently trying to rectify that.
And maybe what we can agree on is that DEI has a branding problem.
Appreciate the consideration and honest discourse. I think most organizations have been forced to realize this about themselves. I know that these types of trainings made me face some things about myself that I didn't like:
-I was judgemental about obviously ethnic names, which is pretty screwed up and not something that I'm proud of, particularly since a name isn't chosen by the person,but their parents, and isn't indicitave of their qualifications. The book freakanomics addressed this situation and found that it was very common.
Corporate Diversity trainings helped me change this weakness about myself. I honestly think they've helped me be a better manager, I have much better teams, and it's more welcoming to our very diverse patient base.
As far as the branding problem, I would suggest that it has been intentionally twisted to upset people. DEI isn't Quotas.
DEI is literally an attempt to make sure that we don't continue past discriminations and we respect and value the diverse qualities,experiences, and skills that each person brings to a team.
I'd equate it to this: what if all of your WR were 6'5" and slow? Not going to be very good are they? But combined with some speedy,smaller WR they can have immense value in the red zone, or as blockers. You are much harder to defend when you have various skillsets on your team
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