Democrats hate women.
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Certainly the issue I want Congress to be worried about.
Well if democrats cared about women this issue would only take 5 minutes. But obviously democrats don't.
seems like some bullshit that doesn't require government intervention to me
Agree. The civil rights and equality of individuals in this country is not a concern of government. LOL
How fun it must be to be able to take any side of every issue depending on how it impacts your sensibilities.
The issue is, that this isn't an issue. Its a culture war. I personally don't think trans women who transitioned after puberty should be allowed to compete in womens leagues. But if you actually cared about doing that you'd have to not make it illegal for minors to transition. So you'd be doing what then? Creating a new, separate but equal league? Sure sounds familiar. It all sounds like a mess and Im just not down for participating in the whole discussion honestly. Especially with bigots who don't even respect trans peoples existence.
Conservatives love this stuff because it allows them to ignore real issues going on, like the debt ceiling that they are playing around with like a kid with a nuke.
Meanwhile Republicans across the country are forcing teenage girls to have their rapist’s baby. But yeah, dems hate women because of swimming competitions.
There's a lot here so without writing a book, I'll try to agree and disagree with you.
Yes, there is a culture war going on. The culture war is important but there are a great number of very trivial things being brought up and pushed by both sides in this matter. So much so it is hard to know what to take seriously and of course, there's the reality that a lot of very unappealing personalities get into the middle of this.
As for the whole trans issue, it's a very complex one. It's a matter of fact there are people born who have both sex organs. It's a matter of fact that people are born with all kinds of conditions that are not average but are undeniably real. It's also a matter of fact that over our history, humans have demonstrated a very distressing intolerance toward those things that we deem not normal. It's through that lens I would conceded skepticism is warranted every step of the way through this.
To the contrary, it's also a matter of fact that we've seen an unnatural and monumental rise in transgenderism. It's at least worth investigating what aspects of this are a social contagion because that's absolutely something that has happened too. It is also a matter of fact that biological men have a commanding advantage in most athletic endeavors over biological women. Thus introducing biological men to women's sports is not a good idea and while you may not care a great deal, it is going to undo the enormous amount of work that's been done to bring women's sports into the mainstream of interest. It's also a fact that a lot of the people competing in women's activities that are biological men are doing great harm to the image of these activities and it's just not something we should be doing.
Lastly, the idea that we should be transitioning minors is at best morally and medically dubious. There are places on Earth that have been doing it longer than we have and they are taking great strides backward from those efforts. It is again, a fact, that there is a lot of development of the mind and personality that occurs in people long after they are minors. Considering the enormity of this kind of choice, we should proceed with as much caution as possible. There are efforts all over the country on the left that deny parents knowledge and consent in these matters. I have heard Democratic officials give tremendous weight to minors with this decision and then say "they're kids" on the next depending on what we're talking about. That demonstrates that everyone knows that kids need guidance and time to grow up and into themselves. It's a challenging time of life that we should help provide clarity to rather than more confusion.
As for your comment about the debt ceiling, I am all for pressing as much as possible to get some sanity restored to our spending. We are bankrupting our children to say nothing of ourselves. We must have a serious discussion about the role of government and start getting things under control. Whether it be over the budget or this matter, it needs to be talked about. The interesting thing about this is that the left always says Republicans are holding this up because they won't do what we want to do 100% on every matter. When is it to ever be expected that we might see compromise from both sides and recognition there is a problem? It doesn't happen often if ever any more.
They may hate the women... But almost EVERY Republican loves the cock... Donald Trump's cock.
oh look you have pissed off one of our resident pedo supporting trans people now....
The debt ceiling will be raised and our check to Ukraine will not bounce so calm down.
Yah well you wrote a book. I read to where you said there's an unnatural rise in transgenerism. You made that up. There's an increase in people understanding and accepting trans issues. So yes more people feel more comfortable seeking their happiness. Something which shows our society is making progress.
Those who refer to them as groomers or make up things to be freaked out over and turn these people into boogiemen... they represent the blowback of that progress. Simple as that. Bigots would refer to transgender as unnatural. What they mean to say is they are uncomfortable with the issue and scared.
Based on all available historical data on humans and human conditions, there is an unnatural rise in transgenderism. That's not an item up for debate. There is NO abnormality of ANY kind that is present in 20+% of humans. Not one... ever in all of history. Stating that isn't bigoted or anything else. People use those terms to shut conversation down when they know they don't have any answers.
Leftists all the sudden taking the responsible road with the economy is inject-it-in-my-veins rich
Pure bullshit top to bottom
The term unnatural is what's bigoted you can say it's a focal point on the data. It's easy to explain for as I did. You are calling it an abnormality. That's pure bigotry. Trans people have been around forever you being ignorant on the matter isn't their fault.
Cant say I have. But I have seen leftist terrorist attack schools and murder little kids due to their heterophobic and Christophobic bigotry against people to the right of them.
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Lol. You're creating objection where facts are. It seems quite apparent I am far more informed than you are on this matter. Unnatural is a word. It is not bigoted. The word is in reference to a rise that is not within norms. Therefore it is unnatural in terms of the rise with respect to statistics. Has nothing to do with the state of being. You're trying to find something that isn't there because you seem to understand this is an argument you won't win without hurling around derogatory terms to cover your lack of understanding of what's going on in our country right now.
Yes, trans people have been around forever. They will be around forever and I have no interest in taking away any of their rights....ever! It's not my place to decide. Male and female were made as the normal order of things. That doesn't take away from the sacred worth of anyone who does things differently. You're in denial of reality if you see otherwise because that's just the science of the matter. I thought that was what folks like you cared about.
I'd advise you look up the word bigotry and read about it to gain an understanding of what it is. Stating facts isn't bigotry. And again, there's nothing that is different in nature that occurs at a 20% rate... Nothing!
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Transgender are unnatural. If that makes me a Bigot I’ll wear the label loud and proud.
Trans is just a mental illness. These people need help, not instructions on how to cut their d!ck off.
The estimated percentage of LGBT individuals has doubled in the last 11 years. That is absolutely NOT just an "increase in understanding."
You don't, uhhhh, see the irony in this post? Like, for real, yo don't see it?
At the risk of wallowing in the mud, what are you even talking about 20% rate? Why are you stating that number? How does it relate to trans people and your arguments? Im not arguing for anything except acceptance. CITE THE 20%, article, study etc. You gotta realize no one has context to what you are saying.
Depends on what you're calling a civil right? That's a huge question here. With respect to the biological men playing women's sports. It could be argued we can't win here in terms of how we handle this issue. I don't really want to restrict who can play sports. It offends my libertarian sensibilities to the extreme. That being said, just allowing men to run over women's sports after all that's been done to build them up just isn't going to make sense.
I was off a little in my numbers. Here's an article about it. It's a higher rise than I stated. And in the younger group, in excess of 20% of all people believe they are LGBTQ and that's so outside any numbers we have ever seen by a huge factor.
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
www.bloomberg.com
How Many Adults and Youth Identify as Transgender in the United States?
williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu
About 5% of young adults in the U.S. say their gender is different from their sex assigned at birth
1.6% of U.S. adults are transgender or nonbinary. Also, a rising share of Americans say they know someone who is transgender.
www.pewresearch.org
I have compassion for transgender individuals. It saddens me to see people whose identity is not based in reality as I can't imagine the confliction that they have inside. I view it though, much the way gender dysphoria used to be viewed, as a medical condition of the mind. I don't think affirming that someone is something that they are not is helping them in the long run. In the back of their minds, they know that they are not truly a man/woman/whatever they may identify as. That will never go away no matter what is done to the human body. You can make yourself a woman with a manufactured penis or a man with breasts and a crude hole where your penis once was, but that person can only ever amount to a TRANS-man/woman. Some things are just not possible to change. It is not the responsible or the compassionate thing to do, in my opinion, to continue to enable people to carry on life imagining that they are something that they will never truly be.
The libtards are the one's trying to spend into oblivion regardless of the consequences. And yes, this is a culture war of good vs. the evil of a purely satanic agenda as they try to pervert every are of our lives. Radical communist democrats are the enemy of the people along with the RINO's that vote with them.
Just in case anyone hasn't shared, I think it's important to note that this is totally unhinged.
Your political opposition isn't the "enemy of the people". They disagree with you on policy, but they aren't trying to destroy your life or this country.
Stop being insane.
You're not but there are fringes on both sides that would if they continue to grow in power. This extremism must be stopped at all costs.
Yes. We are all Americans trying to find the best way to live in a country we can be proud of.
Oh look at bigot announces their arrival to the thread. Good thing our country allows you to have those terrible views however I'm not going to let you legislate them into law.
But Dems want to kill the baby as well as let minors be talked into having body altering by surgury without parental consent because a dem activist is convinced they are not the right sex.
XX = Girl
XY = Boy
It's science.
Lol I seriously doubt many sex reassignment surgeries happen for minors world wide. You don't have any numbers to cite do you?
Usually this is a private decision with doctors and such. So you actually think there are just 'activists' walking around recruiting kids for sex reassignment? If so cite why. I think you guys love a boogeyman and are easily riled up over nothing.
U.S. Sex Reassignment Surgery Market Size Report, 2030
The U.S. sex reassignment surgery market size was estimated at USD 2.1 billion in 2022 and is anticipated to grow at a CAGR of 11.25% from 2023 to 2030.
Sex reassignment is considered a great growth area for revenue for hospitals.
So your outrage hinges on how people self report themselves? Guys.... grow up. I dated a girl who called herself bi sexual just because she thought some women were hot. But when pressed to actually...yah know. She wasn't. So you all are getting all worked because young people use terms that scare you in a completely unscientific study. Weren't you just going off on a tangent about NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY.. ITS SCIENTIFIC NOT BIGOTRY. yah it's just your bigotry. Read the ****ing article not the headline. Social media got another oneI was off a little in my numbers. Here's an article about it. It's a higher rise than I stated. And in the younger group, in excess of 20% of all people believe they are LGBTQ and that's so outside any numbers we have ever seen by a huge factor.
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
www.bloomberg.com
How Many Adults and Youth Identify as Transgender in the United States?
williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu
About 5% of young adults in the U.S. say their gender is different from their sex assigned at birth
1.6% of U.S. adults are transgender or nonbinary. Also, a rising share of Americans say they know someone who is transgender.
This is literally the formerly held view by many, possible you, about Homosexuality. Transgenderism has been around for the entire history of humankind. It is way more common in non-Western civilizations, probably due to religious affiliation.
The "rise" is more likely due to people being much more comfortable and feeling safer to be open about themselves.
Again, someone else having more rights doesn't take away your rights.
It's the data we have available because in the past they have felt self-reporting about these kinds of issues is the best way we have available to get information. The CDC information is the most reliable data we have available. It's what has been used to create all past numbers as well.
If you're saying I was influenced by social media, hard to understand that since I have no presence whatsoever on social media. It's always fascinating to me how people like you will say I'm misled by something due to being too stupid to understand when I am being manipulated but then folks on the left here will link social media crap constantly. I guess you guys know the good information.
This is why it's such a fruitless endeavor to even discuss things with you. You move the ball constantly to make sure you maintain some kind of moral upper hand even when it's a house built on lies. All the while, the person making the argument doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground. Again and again though, these things keep coming to pass that are deemed idiotic and we just keep on seeing the slide continue. It's mind boggling how willfully stupid such a huge portion of our population has made themselves. On one side we have drones of the left and on the other the cult of Trump. It's so annoying in what should be one of the more educated countries on Earth that so many are so damn ignorant. Then again, that's what you get with a government educating its own people.
