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If you want to have Black Wall Street, that is wonderful. Just don’t use my dollars for it and discriminate against me.
 
To be fair, White Wall Street would just be the history of Wall Street.

edit: idk why i'm engaging. nothing piggy does is in good faith.
Yes.

I think a history of Wall Street will get much more participation than just the history of black Wall Street? Why limit it to just Black Wall Street?
 
Interesting back and forth on this “Black Wall Street” topic and “Black History”.

I don’t know anything about the “event” that Ole Piggy is talking about. I’m assuming, from reading between the lines, that it’s a special class or assembly, to explain finances and investing to black students??? If that is the case, I do see Ole Piggy’s point. Financial literacy is a dire need across all races. The last two generations, in general, lack appreciation and understanding of how money works even at the basic levels.

Now … if … the topic of this “Black Wall Street” event was to cover and review the Tulsa Race riots??? Sorry, @fatpiggy, I have to side with the opposition here. I’m 46, and the first I had ever heard of the Tulsa Race Riots and “Black Wall Street”, was when they wife and I were watching “The Watchmen” on HBO. I was astonished that it took a HBO series about a graphic novel series for me to hear that such an event had happened, and I know for a fact that I’m not alone. I wasnt surprised that the riots happened, considered the time period, but was shocked that I had never heard of it.

I do believe that we need to have an honest review and curriculum of our country’s history when it comes to race, but I firmly believe that history needs to be taught through a lens of “we have work to do, but look how far we have come “.

I dunno … just my two cents …
I appreciate the feedback, honestly.

The event is being financed with district dollars, and was promoted on the district email list and is being held at a district school.

The event is called BLACK WALL STREET. I was denied the opportunity to hold a WHITE WALL STREET event. This is illegal and blatant discrimination.

If they want to have a Black Wall Street event, they can have it with private dollars on private property.

As the law states, if they want to use public dollars and hold the event on public property and advertise the event with district resources, it needs to just be called WALL STREET DAY.

It is illegal to discriminate on the basis of race in this country. This is not hard. But apparently the racism is so ingrained in our leadership they don't know racism when it slaps them in the face.
 
Do you really want me to explain this to you or are you purposely being obtuse?

Again, I know its extremely hard for you to separate your own self from situations, perfect example again is you talking about yourself in the third person, but doing so in this matter MIGHT help you understand the purpose for an event like Black Wall Street.

Also I would recommend that you attend the event and you might actually learn something new.
You still have not answered the question.

Why was my White Wall Street day denied? Why can i not have white wall street day?

The good news is, this is on official district email and there is a record of all of it.

If I was Anita Hutchins, I'd be concerned about my employment status. She is knowingly violating a federal law.
 
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I appreciate the feedback, honestly.

The event is being financed with district dollars, and was promoted on the district email list and is being held at a district school.

The event is called BLACK WALL STREET. I was denied the opportunity to hold a WHITE WALL STREET event. This is illegal and blatant discrimination.

If they want to have a Black Wall Street event, they can have it with private dollars on private property.

As the law states, if they want to use public dollars and hold the event on public property and advertise the event with district resources, it needs to just be called WALL STREET DAY.

It is illegal to discriminate on the basis of race in this country. This is not hard. But apparently the racism is so ingrained in our leadership they don't know racism when it slaps them in the face.

So you feel that White Wall Street is a subject that hasn't been taught?

Yiu keep saying that you are being discriminated against, but have yet to show where you were discriminated against.

If you, in good faith, told the district that you wanted to teach a class on Wall Street, they wouldn't have had an issue with that? Also, white Wlo Street is what is taught, since that is historically all that has ever been taught.

Others getting more stuff doesn't take your stuff away. You are still trying so hard to make a case that life in tough for White,Straight,Men in America, and that's complete Bullshit.
 
So you feel that White Wall Street is a subject that hasn't been taught?

Yiu keep saying that you are being discriminated against, but have yet to show where you were discriminated against.

If you, in good faith, told the district that you wanted to teach a class on Wall Street, they wouldn't have had an issue with that? Also, white Wlo Street is what is taught, since that is historically all that has ever been taught.

Others getting more stuff doesn't take your stuff away. You are still trying to had to make a case that life in tough for White,Straight,Men in America, and that's complete Bullshit.
There is no Wall Street class in the schools right now.

There is personal finance and that is about as close to it as you can get.

I love the idea of an all inclusive wall street day. If they would like to have an exhibit about black wall street at Walls street day that is fine. As long as there can be an exhibit on Whte wall street day. We are all equal.

The litmus test is simple. If you have black X, you must be willing to have white X. If you aren't then the program is illegal. My rights were clearly violated.

White wall street is not what is taught. False premise. There is no such course.

I'm not making the case for white men. Im making the case for we are all created equal. It's amazing that people can't understand that. They are blinded by racism.

I want a Wall Street Day for everyone. It will, undoubtedly, be better attended than just a sole Black Wall Street day. The districts goal should be to reach as many people as possible. They are not doing that with Black Wall Street.
 
Racism for Me but not for thee.

Thats what the democrats want.

They want to use their racism bludgeon to their advantage. No longer.
 
Anita Hutchins had the audacity to tell me that "Black has no connotation as to who can attend the event". She either didn't think about that statement of is not a smart woman.

This is provably false, and I will prove it false.

If there is no connotation, then attendance at the event will mimic the population of the district has a whole.

If there is a connotation, then there will be a disproportionate number of blacks there.

The district is 31% black. Something tells me 69% of the people at Black Wall Street will not be white. Just my spidey senses. But only one way to find out.

I will be there taking video evidence for my claim.
 
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Anita Hutchins had the audacity to tell me that "Black has no connotation as to who can attend the event".

This is provably false, and I will prove it false.

If there is no connotation, then attendance at the event will mimic the population of the district has a whole.

If there is a connotation, then there will be a disproportionate number of blacks there.

The district is 31% black. Something tells me 69% of the people at Black Wall Street will not be white. Just my spidey senses. But only one way to find out.

I will be there taking video evidence for my claim.

You continue to be really pissed off about something that causes you zero harm. WTF do you care?

You don't want to hear it, but Black Americans have not been treated well in America. We denied them, for well over 150 years of their basic human rights, we refused to educate them, we denied them rights to buy land, etc.

We have eliminated opportunities for so long, that many industries are not represented by people of color, these events are designed to give children an opportunity to see themselves represented in career paths that have historically been closed to them.

You don't like this, I guess because you don't want to acknowledge that you have had advantages that people of color haven't. Saying that they have the same opportunities now doesn't make up for the decades of lack of opportunities.

Again, you rights have not been impugned, if you want to go to a class for Black Wall Street, I'm sure that they would welcome you. White Wall Street isn't really a class that needs to be taught, since we've all seen Lilly white Caucasians represented in TV and Movies in Wlap Street our whole lives.
 
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You continue to be really pissed off about something that causes you zero harm. WTF do you care?

You don't want to hear it, but Black Americans have not been treated well in America. We denied them, for well over 150 years of their basic human rights, we refused to educate them, we denied them rights to buy land, etc.

We have eliminated opportunities for so long, that many industries are not represented by people of color, these events are designed to give children an opportunity to see themselves represented in career paths that have historically been closed to them.

You don't like this, I guess because you don't want to acknowledge that you have had advantages that people of color haven't. Saying that they have the same opportunities now doesn't make up for the decades of lack of opportunities.

Again, you rights have not been impugned, if you want to go to a class for Black Wall Street, I'm sure that they would welcome you. White Wall Street isn't really a class that needs to be taught, since we've all seen Lilly white Caucasians represented in TV and Movies in Wlap Street our whole lives.
It’s illegal. That’s why I care. It affected me and my kids. I care. It’s covert racism and has no place in our schools.

Right is right and wrong is wrong. Black Wall Street at a public school is wrong.
 
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It’s illegal. That’s why I care. It affected me and my kids. I care.

Right is right and wrong is wrong. Black Wall Street at a public school is wrong.
Racial and homophobic slurs. Be tougher.

Black Wall Street. My feelings are hurt.

Then to rope in your own children into something like this. Thats really sad. I feel for them and hope they can decide their own future without their dad ruining them.

Also, its not illegal. Facts are facts.
 
Racial and homophobic slurs. Be tougher.

Black Wall Street. My feelings are hurt.

Then to rope in your own children into something like this. Thats really sad. I feel for them and hope they can decide their own future without their dad ruining them.

Also, its not illegal. Facts are facts.
It is illegal. My claim has been filed with the DOE.

And you will see as much when the program is not renewed under that banner.

Hopefully it will return as Wall Street Day where all are welcome.
 
Explain how you were harmed?

This desire to just be "mad" is so odd.
I’m harmed because I was told I can’t have White Wall Street day through official district communication.

I have been prevented from sharing information with kids
 
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Just let me have White Wall Street day and it all goes away.

I want to hold the event to make it glaringly obvious that it’s ridiculous.

Let me hold the event.
 
You filing a claim doesn't mean it is illegal.
We will find out within the next two weeks. That’s when they said they would respond by. I’ll keep you posted.

But I read the letter that went out Friday night. It made it very clear that program is illegal
 
Just let me have White Wall Street day and it all goes away.

I want to hold the event to make it glaringly obvious that it’s ridiculous.

Let me hold the event.

Let's suggest that they let you do this...

You really going to publicly advertise that FatPiggy wants to teach a White Wall Street Class? How you think that's gonna play?

Sometimes public perception is right, they'd laugh at you for feeling like you've been harmed. You'd also look a touch racist as well.
 
Let's suggest that they let you do this...

You really going to publicly advertise that FatPiggy wants to teach a White Wall Street Class? How you think that's gonna play?

Sometimes public perception is right, they'd laugh at you for feeling like you've been harmed. You'd also look a touch racist as well.
You know me well enough that I want the public fight. I have the moral high ground. I don’t give one iota about what others think about me. I care about what is right.

Discrimination is wrong. This will be easy for me to defend.

I am calling their bluff in a way. Let me hold the event. But they won’t, because it’s wrong. Just like Black Wall Street is wrong.

My point has been made.
 
You know me well enough that I want the public fight. I have the moral high ground. I don’t give one iota about what others think about me. I care about what is right.

Discrimination is wrong. This will be easy for me to defend.

I am calling their bluff in a way. Let me hold the event. But they won’t, because it’s wrong. Just like Black Wall Street is wrong.

My point t has been made.
Again. Show where you were harmed.

The thing is, you just want to fight to make a point, not because you actually believe what you are saying. I guess once a troll, always a troll.

I'm sure you are an absolute joy to know in real life. For the record, people roll their eyes at you and laugh when you leave. I know that the school does.
 
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Again. Show where you were harmed.

The thing is, you just want to fight to make a point, not because you actually believe what you are saying. I guess once a troll, always a troll.

I'm sure you are an absolute joy to know in real life. For the record, people roll their eyes at you and laugh when you leave. I know that the school does.
His kids and family will/do as well.

Sucks for them.
 
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Again. Show where you were harmed.

The thing is, you just want to fight to make a point, not because you actually believe what you are saying. I guess once a troll, always a troll.

I'm sure you are an absolute joy to know in real life. For the record, people roll their eyes at you and laugh when you leave. I know that the school does.
You are correct.

1) I was harmed. I am not allowed to host my event.

2) you are correct, I want the fight. I want what is right for the students. One day they will be judged on the content of their character and not on the color of their skin. And yes I do firmly believe what I am saying. 0% troll.

3) for the record every person I know rolls their eyes at Black this and Black that. We are tired of the race baiting and just want a race neutral world


let me ask you a serious question. Do you think an event titled Wall Street day would be have better or worse attendance than a Black Wall Street day? To answer this you need to know the district racial makeup is 30% black 50% white and 20% other.

If the goal is to help as many students as possible, why would we have black Wall Street day knowing it will be less well attended?

It’s of my opinion You are only hurting the students with the race crap. Not as many students will attend a “black Wall Street” event as a more inclusive “Wall Street” event. This is easy provable as I described in a post above.

Can you give an honest shot at answering those.
 
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You are correct.

1) I was harmed. I am not allowed to host my event.

2) you are correct, I want the fight. I want what is right for the students. And yes I do firmly believe what I am saying. 0% troll.

3) for the record every person I know rolls their eyes at Black this and Black that. We are tired of the race baiting and just want a race neutral world


let me ask you a serious question. Do you think an event titled Wall Street day would be have better or worse attendance than a Black Wall Street day? To answer this you need to know the district racial makeup is 30% black 50% white and 20% other.

If the goal is to help as many students as possible, why would we have black Wall Street day knowing it will be less well attended?

It’s of my opinion You are only hurting the students with the race crap.

Can you give an honest shot at answering those.

I have literally answered in this thread why these programs are needed.

"Wall Street" event would have less attendance than a Black Wall Street event.

White kids don't care,l since those jobs have always been open to them.

Black kids aren't going since they know it won't pertain to them, history shows them that those jobs are largely closed off to them.

Again, you weren't harmed since the district said the program you wanted to put on wasn't needed.

You also weren't harmed since you were not barred from attending the event.


If an Elementary school had a "Good News Club" that met after school to discuss Christianity, do you expect the school to also have a group for every other religion on Earth?
 
You aren’t being honest with yourself Yoshi.

It’s easily provable about who will attend the event. It will not match the racial makeup of the district. I will be there taking video evidence.

Say it with me Race can’t be a factor when it comes to public school events.
 
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If you allow "Good News:" christian club, then you can't prevent other religions having theirs... The "After School Satan Club" being one of them .
 
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You aren’t being honest with yourself Yoshi.

It’s easily provable about who will attend the event. It will not match the racial makeup of the district. I will be there taking video evidence.

Say it with me Race can’t be a factor when it comes to public school events.

Again. You must be a joy to know.

The fact that you are still trying to claim that you have been discriminated against is hilarious.

You still can't prove how you were harmed by the district saying they didn't need you to teach a class for them.

I also doubt any of this is true, we all know you love to talk a big game, then never uphold your commitments Ole Fastball.
 
If you allow "Good News:" christian club, then you can't prevent other religions having theirs... The "After School Satan Club" being one of them .
As long as it doesn’t have the word White in it apparently it’s ok
 
Again. You must be a joy to know.

The fact that you are still trying to claim that you have been discriminated against is hilarious.

You still can't prove how you were harmed by the district saying they didn't need you to teach a class for them.

I also doubt any of this is true, we all know you love to talk a big game, then never uphold your commitments Ole Fastball.
If you are honest with yourself you will come to much better conclusions
 
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If you allow "Good News:" christian club, then you can't prevent other religions having theirs... The "After School Satan Club" being one of them .

I agree. But every school in the area has one of these clubs. Which also makes me laugh when Christians in the South try to claim some sort of discrimination.
 
It sort of is for most things.

Name a crime that doesn't harm someone.
Civil rights violations


I’m specifically referring to the guidance sent out by the DOE on Friday. They state specifically what the litmus test is.
 
Civil rights violations


I’m specifically referring to the guidance sent out by the DOE on Friday. They state specifically what the litmus test is.

You are really going to try and claim that your rights are being violated because a school district declined to allow you to teach a class?

Dude, get a life, you have way too much time on your hands.
 
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