DOGE is not an official dept. and Elon nor his 6 college nerds are Senate confirmed and have no business rooting around in the financial information for all Americans. This is obscene corruption that no one can stop because they've fired all the gatekeepers and hollowed out law enforcement agencies as well. This is a hostile takeover of our government that Republicans are afraid to speak out against. Unbelievable this is happening so blatantly with little backlash and I don't see how this shit stops without an uprising that will surely lead to violence.
Dept. of Government Efficiency - Elon/Vivek leading DOGE
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If you want to know my guess.
Because when Vivek and Elon first started working on DOGE they had different ideas on how to go about it. Vivek essentially wanted to challenge the status quo through the courts. He thought he could take it to the USSC and win because the court has a conservative tilt.
Elon had a different idea. Elong wanted to make cuts and accountability systems within the current framework.
It appears as if Elon won and that is the route they are taking.
Hostile takeover of government that republicans wont speak out about. That is correct. We want a hostile takeover of the shit yall were doing. I won't do anything but cheer.
I'm talking about the normal Republicans in Congress who know this is an abomination, not hard-core magats like you who want to burn everything to the ground in order to own the libs and extinguish everything that might hold Trump accountable.
NAh. What we are doing right now is holding Democrats accountable. Think about that next time before you vote for a vegetable.
Looks like a drawing of Trump with Pelosi who is wearing a Halloween costume pretending to be pro-American.
Nah, I think that's Paul Pelosi in drag right after his skull was busted open because of Trump's lies and before Trump thought it was a good idea to mock him for it.
"Billionaire Elon Musk’s team yesterday took control of the Treasury’s payment system, thus essentially gaining access to the checkbook with which the United States handles about $6 trillion annually and to all the financial information of Americans and American businesses with it. Apparently, it did not stop there.
Today Ellen Knickmeyer of the Associated Press reported that yesterday two top security officials from the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) tried to stop people associated with Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, from accessing classified information they did not have security clearance to see. The Trump administration put the officials on leave, and the DOGE team gained access to the information.
Vittoria Elliott of Wired has identified those associated with Musk’s takeover as six “engineers who are barely out of—and in at least one case, purportedly still in—college.” They are connected either to Musk or to his long-time associate Peter Thiel, who backed J.D. Vance’s Senate run eighteen months before he became Trump’s vice presidential running mate. Their names are Akash Bobba, Edward Coristine, Luke Farritor, Gautier Cole Killian, Gavin Kliger, and Ethan Shaotran, and they have little to no experience in government.
Public policy expert Dan Moynihan told reporter Elliott that the fact these people “are not really public officials” makes it hard for Congress to intervene. “So this feels like a hostile takeover of the machinery of governments by the richest man in the world,” he said. Law professor Nick Bednar noted that “it is very unlikely” that the engineers “have the expertise to understand either the law or the administration needs that surround these agencies.”
After Musk’s team breached the USAID computers, cybersecurity specialist Matthew Garrett posted: “Random computers being plugged into federal networks is obviously terrifying in terms of what data they're deliberately accessing, but it's also terrifying because it implies controls are being disabled—unmanaged systems should never have access to this data. Who else has access to those systems?”
USAID receives foreign policy guidance from the State Department. Intelligence agencies must now assume U.S. intelligence systems are insecure.
Musk’s response was to post: “USAID is a criminal organization. Time for it to die.” Also last night, according to Sam Stein of The Bulwark, “the majority of staff in the legislative and public affairs bureau lost access to their emails, implying they’ve been put on admin leave although this was never communicated to them.”
Congress established USAID in 1961 to bring together the many different programs that were administering foreign aid. Focusing on long-term socioeconomic development, USAID has a budget of more than $50 billion, less than 1% of the U.S. annual budget. It is one of the largest aid agencies in the world.
Musk is unelected, and it appears that DOGE has no legal authority. As political scientist Seth Masket put it in tusk: “Elon Musk is not a federal employee, nor has he been appointed by the President nor approved by the Senate to have any leadership role in government. The ‘Department of Government Efficiency,’ announced by Trump in a January 20th executive order, is not truly any sort of government department or agency, and even the executive order uses quotes in the title. It’s perfectly fine to have a marketing gimmick like this, but DOGE does not have power over established government agencies, and Musk has no role in government. It does not matter that he is an ally of the President. Musk is a private citizen taking control of established government offices. That is not efficiency; that is a coup.”
DOGE has simply taken over government systems. Musk, using President Donald Trump’s name, is personally deciding what he thinks should be cut from the U.S. government.
Today, Musk reposted a social media post from MAGA religious extremist General Mike Flynn, who resigned from his position as Trump’s national security advisor in 2017 after pleading guilty to secret conversations with a Russian agent—for which Trump pardoned him—and who publicly embraced the QAnon conspiracy theory. In today’s post, Flynn complained about “the ‘Lutheran’ faith” and, referring to federal grants provided to Lutheran Family Services and affiliated organizations, said, “this use of ‘religion’ as a money laundering operation must end.” Musk added: “The [DOGE] team is rapidly shutting down these illegal payments.”
In fact, this is money appropriated by Congress, and its payment is required by law. Republican lawmakers have pushed government subsidies and grants toward religious organizations for years, and Lutheran Social Services is one of the largest employers in South Dakota, where it operates senior living facilities."
heathercoxrichardson.substack.com
Today Ellen Knickmeyer of the Associated Press reported that yesterday two top security officials from the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) tried to stop people associated with Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, from accessing classified information they did not have security clearance to see. The Trump administration put the officials on leave, and the DOGE team gained access to the information.
Vittoria Elliott of Wired has identified those associated with Musk’s takeover as six “engineers who are barely out of—and in at least one case, purportedly still in—college.” They are connected either to Musk or to his long-time associate Peter Thiel, who backed J.D. Vance’s Senate run eighteen months before he became Trump’s vice presidential running mate. Their names are Akash Bobba, Edward Coristine, Luke Farritor, Gautier Cole Killian, Gavin Kliger, and Ethan Shaotran, and they have little to no experience in government.
Public policy expert Dan Moynihan told reporter Elliott that the fact these people “are not really public officials” makes it hard for Congress to intervene. “So this feels like a hostile takeover of the machinery of governments by the richest man in the world,” he said. Law professor Nick Bednar noted that “it is very unlikely” that the engineers “have the expertise to understand either the law or the administration needs that surround these agencies.”
After Musk’s team breached the USAID computers, cybersecurity specialist Matthew Garrett posted: “Random computers being plugged into federal networks is obviously terrifying in terms of what data they're deliberately accessing, but it's also terrifying because it implies controls are being disabled—unmanaged systems should never have access to this data. Who else has access to those systems?”
USAID receives foreign policy guidance from the State Department. Intelligence agencies must now assume U.S. intelligence systems are insecure.
Musk’s response was to post: “USAID is a criminal organization. Time for it to die.” Also last night, according to Sam Stein of The Bulwark, “the majority of staff in the legislative and public affairs bureau lost access to their emails, implying they’ve been put on admin leave although this was never communicated to them.”
Congress established USAID in 1961 to bring together the many different programs that were administering foreign aid. Focusing on long-term socioeconomic development, USAID has a budget of more than $50 billion, less than 1% of the U.S. annual budget. It is one of the largest aid agencies in the world.
Musk is unelected, and it appears that DOGE has no legal authority. As political scientist Seth Masket put it in tusk: “Elon Musk is not a federal employee, nor has he been appointed by the President nor approved by the Senate to have any leadership role in government. The ‘Department of Government Efficiency,’ announced by Trump in a January 20th executive order, is not truly any sort of government department or agency, and even the executive order uses quotes in the title. It’s perfectly fine to have a marketing gimmick like this, but DOGE does not have power over established government agencies, and Musk has no role in government. It does not matter that he is an ally of the President. Musk is a private citizen taking control of established government offices. That is not efficiency; that is a coup.”
DOGE has simply taken over government systems. Musk, using President Donald Trump’s name, is personally deciding what he thinks should be cut from the U.S. government.
Today, Musk reposted a social media post from MAGA religious extremist General Mike Flynn, who resigned from his position as Trump’s national security advisor in 2017 after pleading guilty to secret conversations with a Russian agent—for which Trump pardoned him—and who publicly embraced the QAnon conspiracy theory. In today’s post, Flynn complained about “the ‘Lutheran’ faith” and, referring to federal grants provided to Lutheran Family Services and affiliated organizations, said, “this use of ‘religion’ as a money laundering operation must end.” Musk added: “The [DOGE] team is rapidly shutting down these illegal payments.”
In fact, this is money appropriated by Congress, and its payment is required by law. Republican lawmakers have pushed government subsidies and grants toward religious organizations for years, and Lutheran Social Services is one of the largest employers in South Dakota, where it operates senior living facilities."
February 2, 2025
Billionaire Elon Musk’s team yesterday took control of the Treasury’s payment system, thus essentially gaining access to the checkbook with which the United States handles about $6 trillion annually and to all the financial information of Americans and American businesses with it.
heathercoxrichardson.substack.com
Please, President T, give me some more of that delicious lead-flavored water
www.theguardian.com
Republicans move to repeal lead limits imposed by Biden-era rules
US government would be prohibited from ever mandating lead pipe replacement or lowering lead limits in water
Hard to tell whether this is DEI's fault or the white lib to be honest.Please, President T, give me some more of that delicious lead-flavored water
Republicans move to repeal lead limits imposed by Biden-era rules
US government would be prohibited from ever mandating lead pipe replacement or lowering lead limits in water
So you think that career civil servants who wanted to prevent un-elected citizens from accessing classified information and then got summarily fired by that same citizen, need to be arrested?
Last time I checked, you don't need to be confirmed by the Senate to work for or with the government.
Hell, Obama ran the government the last 4 years and nobody appointed him. You weren't upset about that.
I'm an unelected citizen and access government classified information every day. What's the big deal?
Is this a serious response? Not even the President has the authority to slash and burn whole govt. agencies to the ground so this is a wholly unprecedented situation. How does being a SGE - Special Government Employee - give him the authority to fire anyone he wants, rummage around in the Treasury payment system that should now be considered insecure and presents a conflict of interest due to the companies he owns. No way the Constitution ever envisioned something like this but let me know if you'd be ok if some Democratic outsider does the same in the future.
And derp about your Obama comment - at least he didn't believe in destroying every institution and turning it into something unrecognizable.
Do you have the authority to fire anyone that tells you that you can't have access?
You mean like a Democrat President using the DOJ to target political rivals? That sort of thing? The sort of thing that happens in third world dictatorships?
From your comments, I can tell you've never read the Constitution nor understand its contents.
Gee, the Chief Executive can't reorganize the Executive Branch of government or appoint others to do so at his direction? LOL. Dude the whole Executive Branch runs that way.
But keep hand wringing. It's fun to watch.
Nope....I haven't been given that authority......but I could be given that authority. All they have to do is write it into my contract.
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