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Dept. of Government Efficiency - Elon/Vivek leading DOGE

 
You still peddling this? It has been proven multiple times to be completely false. Surely you can do better than that?….oh wait that is probably because the overwhelming majority of the “savings” doggy has found aren’t and the realization that perhaps be starting to show that the budget including a 4.3T tax cut may balloon the debt even more. So much for all that “too much debt” argument.
 
You still peddling this? It has been proven multiple times to be completely false. Surely you can do better than that?….oh wait that is probably because the overwhelming majority of the “savings” doggy has found aren’t and the realization that perhaps be starting to show that the budget including a 4.3T tax cut may balloon the debt even more. So much for all that “too much debt” argument.
Disagree with your opinion. Nothing proven.
 
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DOGE over reports and then corrects its receipts all the time so far.
What is the total cut savings? Who knows. They can't even honestly report on it, every journalist covering it shows its has discrepancies like them claiming the cut a contract, which was already paid. Thats real waste, paying for something then letting the resources go, after they've been paid, and haven't delivered.

The GOP needs to get its head out of its ass and actually hold their government accountable.
 
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DOGE over reports and then corrects its receipts all the time so far.
What is the total cut savings? Who knows. They can't even honestly report on it, every journalist covering it shows its has discrepancies like them claiming the cut a contract, which was already paid. Thats real waste, paying for something then letting the resources go, after they've been paid, and haven't delivered.

The GOP needs to get its head out of its ass and actually hold their government accountable.
You had your chance to do it.

I think the democrats are mad their leader was so ineffective that this wasn't even on their radar.
 
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You had your chance to do it.

I think the democrats are mad their leader was so ineffective that this wasn't even on their radar.
Im simply requesting that you hold the leaders accountable to reporting correct information. If you don't agree that the government should be held accountable, then ok.
 
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"The U.S. Forest Service manages 78% of the land in the Lake Tahoe Basin. Yet, a hiring freeze on seasonal workers and recent firings of key staff have gutted an already-stretched-thin agency, putting on hold critical work in water quality, environmental restoration and forest fuels reduction projects while also diminishing the forest service’s capacity to manage the millions of visitors who come to Lake Tahoe every year — especially on the Fourth of July.

Eleven people who work at the Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit lost their jobs last month in the so-called “Valentine’s Day Massacre” led by Elon Musk’s U.S. Department of Government Efficiency, according to former employees. The job losses compound chronically low staffing, plus a hiring freeze on seasonal workers that went into effect last fall. In all, the management unit has lost a third of its recreational staff, including the lone permanent wilderness ranger position in Desolation Wilderness."

 
The stock market is down 5 trillion, cwrre about to add 4.5 trillion to the debt and you're out here hee-hawing about a fake claim they saved a tiny fraction of that amount? Propaganda is the only tool you've got for people dumb enough to believe it. And we know you'll obliterate the board with a mountain of it before the night is done.
 
Gave them 90 minutes to leave. What swell guys they are.


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Yeah. So what if they weren't collecting a check?

So much bullshit from DOGE and yall eat that up hook,line,and sinker.

The definition of Fraud they are using isn't actually fraud FYI.
What a dumbass question. Here are a few more dumbass questions: What if some of them were collecting a check? What if the ones that were no longer collecting a check was due to the fraudster eventually dying, in jail, or otherwise incapacitated resulting in the checks being returned to sender? There is a shit ton of fraud everywhere and you bursting a hemorrhoid in your forehead because Musk's team is uncovering some of it is pathetic. Why did I call my questions, dumbass questions? You figure it out.
 
What a dumbass question. Here are a few more dumbass questions: What if some of them were collecting a check? What if the ones that were no longer collecting a check was due to the fraudster eventually dying, in jail, or otherwise incapacitated resulting in the checks being returned to sender? There is a shit ton of fraud everywhere and you bursting a hemorrhoid in your forehead because Musk's team is uncovering some of it is pathetic. Why did I call my questions, dumbass questions? You figure it out.

How about they correct the rolls, identify if there are actual people getting illegal checks, before you try to make somme claims about massive fraud?

DOGEE isn't serious about uncovering waste, they are serious about keeping you mad.
 
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How about they correct the rolls, identify if there are actual people getting illegal checks, before you try to make somme claims about massive fraud?

DOGEE isn't serious about uncovering waste, they are serious about keeping you mad.
Yoshi from what I heard on tv, thats exactly what they did. Slow down hoss. I know you have terminal TDS, but let the process play out as its going to anyway. Elections have consequences and America is winning now!!!
 
For those keeping track, the government allocated over $850 million dollars for surveys that look like the ones above.

Keep defending Democrats!
 
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Is this bullshit too?


I would want to see additional information. One example doesn't give a full picture.

Without knowing all the details, we have no idea if this was a good expenditure or not.


It is also not uncommon for companies to use other branches of their firm to provide services that would otherwise be outsourced. For example, Aramark dining uses Aramark linen and facilities branches at Clemson and most other locations.
 
I would want to see additional information. One example doesn't give a full picture.

Without knowing all the details, we have no idea if this was a good expenditure or not.


It is also not uncommon for companies to use other branches of their firm to provide services that would otherwise be outsourced. For example, Aramark dining uses Aramark linen and facilities branches at Clemson and most other locations.
OK - But can we agree that if close to $1 Billion dollars was spent and the survey looked ANYTHING CLOSE to what was in that picture, it was a colossal waste of money? Can we find common ground there? Literally, a 6th or 7th grader could write those questions.
 
For those keeping track, the government allocated over $850 million dollars for surveys that look like the ones above.

Keep defending Democrats!

And you are assuming, with zero proof that all of the surveys looked like that. You don't know what the cost to outsource this job would have cost. You also are assuming that a private company would have done a better job.

This is an example of the bullshit that annoys me from DOGE. There is no details, but to the ignorant it sounds terrible.
 
And you are assuming, with zero proof that all of the surveys looked like that. You don't know what the cost to outsource this job would have cost. You also are assuming that a private company would have done a better job.

This is an example of the bullshit that annoys me from DOGE. There is no details, but to the ignorant it sounds terrible.
What annoys me is that the left acts like there is no fat to trim. The government was going bankrupt. Interest rates were rising, inflation was rising, and $24 trillion of debt needs refinancing in the next couple of years. The Government was very sick financially.

Obama, Biden, Schumer, and many more democrats are on video saying that we need to make cuts. They also let thousands of people go during their terms.

The anger seems so disingenuous.
 
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What annoys me is that the left acts like there is no fat to trim. The government was going bankrupt. Interest rates were rising, inflation was rising, and $24 trillion of debt needs refinancing in the next couple of years. The Government was very sick financially.

Obama, Biden, Schumer, and many more democrats are on video saying that we need to make cuts. They also let thousands of people go.

The anger seems so disingenuous.

I have said this multiple times, but the issue isn't the attempt to save money, it's Elon having conflicts of interest being involved, it's the exaggeration and mistakes, it's the elimination with no discernible or communicated plans to replace.

I am sure that there is fat that should be trimmed, I am an efficiency expert professionally. I also know that there will be huge reductions in service as we outsource services so I'm concerned.
 
I have said this multiple times, but the issue isn't the attempt to save money, it's Elon having conflicts of interest being involved, it's the exaggeration and mistakes, it's the elimination with no discernible or communicated plans to replace.

I am sure that there is fat that should be trimmed, I am an efficiency expert professionally. I also know that there will be huge reductions in service as we outsource services so I'm concerned.
I disagree with your first statement. Democrats had their chance to implement changes. They were in charge for 12 of the last 16 years, and agreed that something needed to be done, yet the problem only got worse. The problem got really bad with inflation reaching the highestl level in 50 years. You may attribute some of that to covid, sure. However, Biden and Democrats tried to pass a massively inflationary bill in BBB that every democrat voted for spare 1 in Joe Manchin. We can take this knowledge and logically conclude that democrats had no interest in straightening this out.

In my opinion, democrats would have been mad at whoever it was that made the cuts. They don't like the cuts because those are their pet projects. No one likes the people that cut their funds. Doesn't matter who it is.

I see your point on the conflict of interest. But who is qualified to do this job that doesn't have a conflict of interest? There are very few people who understand large, complex systems like Elon Musk. If there were, democrats should have hired them and asked them to do the job for free.

Elon has the highest level security clearances possible. So high they are not spoken of. Those were issued during democratic rule. We are now suspect of his intentions? You are a smart person and i am sure how you see that is illogical.

People really need to be thanking Elon. He is saving a country from bankruptcy. He is doing it at great personal cost to himself.

Personally, i buy the stock and his products to support him. I think the tide will turn and TESLA will be seen as the all american brand that people are proud to own in 2-5 years. TESLA will usher in the golden age.
 
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I can't help but notice that being anti-Elon has really hurt the democrats. They purposefully left him out of the EV summit during the Biden admin when Tesla dominated EV sales here in America. It was an intentional slight, and i am not sure why? Why were democrats against the most American made car?

It really frames democrats in an anti-business light.
 
What annoys me is that the left acts like there is no fat to trim. The government was going bankrupt. Interest rates were rising, inflation was rising, and $24 trillion of debt needs refinancing in the next couple of years. The Government was very sick financially.

Obama, Biden, Schumer, and many more democrats are on video saying that we need to make cuts. They also let thousands of people go during their terms.

The anger seems so disingenuous.
Not a bit of this matters if they're going to add another 5 to 11 trillion to the debt in the next ten years with their multiple tax give-aways - none of it. Why aren't you more focused on that?

All this fake outrage to hide their true hidden agenda is laughable.

 
Not a bit of this matters if they're going to add another 5 to 11 trillion to the debt in the next ten years with their multiple tax give-aways - none of it. Why aren't you more focused on that?

All this fake outrage to hide their true hidden agenda is laughable.

Because you are always worried about stuff that never comes to fruition. You fall for the clickbait headline every time.


First you were worried about Russian Collusion and Trump was a Putin asset. Remember when YOU were ADAMANT about that and tried to sell us that for a couple of years?

Remember when you said that Trump was going to cut Social Security?

Remember when Trumps Tariffs were going to cause inflation to sky rocket?

You continually fail to parse information correctly. All of your main concerns never come to fruition. You really need to do some self-reflecting. You are just selling fear and there are no buyers left.
 
And LOL at posting something from "Comitte for responsible federal spending". Where have they been the last 100 years? GTFOH

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