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Des Moines Iowa Register Poll off 17 points

They really wanted you to believe that traditionally Republican women were going to rush to the polls and vote for their grandchildren to be able to get abortions.

Lol.

Libs are dumb.

I see the polls more as lies to try to impact elections

News is being used as propaganda instead of reporting
 
Yeah I’d say that pollster’s career is toast.
She was retiring, I think she did the poll hoping to get a future gig on MSNBC or CNN. This poll was obviously false, I watched her on a webcast with Mark Halperin and she was completely obnoxious. She refused to provide cross tabs and she is an embarrassment.
 
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which is interesting b/c reportedly she is well respected by both sides as caring more about accuracy than an agenda.
Yeah she had been correct as an outlier in 2020, predicting Trump had a bigger lead there than others had and she was correct. So I think the thought process was even if she was wrong, it’d be unlikley that she would be THIS wrong. And the early returns last night in Indiana and Ohio seemed to show Harris reporting favorably, which seemed to give some credence to the Iowa poll given similar voting bases. But, yeah, that didn’t quite pan out.
 
Yeah she had been correct as an outlier in 2020, predicting Trump had a bigger lead there than others had and she was correct. So I think the thought process was even if she was wrong, it’d be unlikley that she would be THIS wrong. And the early returns last night in Indiana and Ohio seemed to show Harris reporting favorably, which seemed to give some credence to the Iowa poll given similar voting bases. But, yeah, that didn’t quite pan out.

There is a lot of assumption and calculation involved with the science of prediction and modeling for politics, I won't pretend to grasp most of it. However, there were republican strategist and analysts predicting the results from last night as early as last Monday, so I am curious how two different sets of eyes can view, what i assume is the same, data this differently.

Maybe it really isn't the same data.
 
There is a lot of assumption and calculation involved with the science of prediction and modeling for politics, I won't pretend to grasp most of it. However, there were republican strategist and analysts predicting the results from last night as early as last Monday, so I am curious how two different sets of eyes can view, what i assume is the same, data this differently.

Maybe it really isn't the same data.
About 20 million less people voted in this election than in 2020, which is wild to me. Wonder if polls were assuming a higher turnout. Harris losing the pop vote I think is a surprise to a lot of pollsters, even those who predicted a Trump win.
 
About 20 million less people voted in this election than in 2020, which is wild to me. Wonder if polls were assuming a higher turnout. Harris losing the pop vote I think is a surprise to a lot of pollsters, even those who predicted a Trump win.
The number of ballot drop boxes was greatly reduced. Also, a number of ineligible voters were scrubbed from the voter roles.
 
About 20 million less people voted in this election than in 2020, which is wild to me. Wonder if polls were assuming a higher turnout. Harris losing the pop vote I think is a surprise to a lot of pollsters, even those who predicted a Trump win.
Just put the pieces together, and not be bewildered.
 
Just put the pieces together, and not be bewildered.

I ask myself think and come with why 20 million less votes were voted Tuesday.

My only answer is because maybe 20 million real voters voted 4 years ago.

Fake voters I think so because the Republicans this time crawled all over the polls not allowing the fraud.
 
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