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States with the Most Gun Deaths
The five states with the highest gun death rates, in deaths per 100,000, are: Alaska (24.4), Mississippi (24.2), Wyoming (22.3), New Mexico (22.3), and Alabama (22.2). Of these states, Wyoming has the highest gun ownership rate of 64.5%, followed by Alaska with 64.5%. Mississippi's gun ownership rate is 55.8%, New Mexico's is 46.2%, and Alabama's is 55.5%. Texas had the highest number of gun deaths, with 3,683. California followed with 2,945 and Florida with 2,872.States with the Fewest Gun Deaths
The five states with the lowest gun death rates, in deaths per 100,000, are:These five states also have the lowest gun ownership rates in the U.S. Massachusetts and New Jersey have the lowest at 14.7% each, followed by Rhode Island with 14.8%. Hawaii's gun ownership rate is 14.9%, and New York's is 19.9%. These are the only states with gun ownership rates below 20%. Rhode Island had the lowest number of gun deaths, with 48. Hawaii followed 62 and Vermont with 67. Both Delaware and North Dakota had 93 gun deaths. These are the only five states that had fewer than 100 gun deaths in 2019.
Gun Deaths by State 2024
wow, talk about cherry picking data. Lies, damn lies, and statistics
I love you that you think statistics and lies are the same thing. It perfectly explains why you are the way that you are.
But nothing seems more honest than a statistic when its preceeded by an asterik and 20 qualifiers.
The most dangerous *except when considering, *adjusted for, *old data.
If my aunt had nuts she would be my uncle.
You used a google search as evidence? NYC has a lower crime rate than Greenville, FYI.
2024 Compare Crime Rates: Greenville, SC vs New York, NY
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If people looked at the facts instead of being manipulated by their favorite media outlet, we might not be at odds with each other.
LMAO! While my wife can hardly keep up with selling homes to New Yorkers here in South Carolina and all you here about is Crime in Dem run states, and especially in NYC.
You keep doing you and we will all know where the truth lies!
Refer to my response to your butt buddy. Stay out of this grown up conversation, please!States with the Most Gun Deaths
The five states with the highest gun death rates, in deaths per 100,000, are: Alaska (24.4), Mississippi (24.2), Wyoming (22.3), New Mexico (22.3), and Alabama (22.2). Of these states, Wyoming has the highest gun ownership rate of 64.5%, followed by Alaska with 64.5%. Mississippi's gun ownership rate is 55.8%, New Mexico's is 46.2%, and Alabama's is 55.5%. Texas had the highest number of gun deaths, with 3,683. California followed with 2,945 and Florida with 2,872.
States with the Fewest Gun Deaths
The five states with the lowest gun death rates, in deaths per 100,000, are:
These five states also have the lowest gun ownership rates in the U.S. Massachusetts and New Jersey have the lowest at 14.7% each, followed by Rhode Island with 14.8%. Hawaii's gun ownership rate is 14.9%, and New York's is 19.9%. These are the only states with gun ownership rates below 20%. Rhode Island had the lowest number of gun deaths, with 48. Hawaii followed 62 and Vermont with 67. Both Delaware and North Dakota had 93 gun deaths. These are the only five states that had fewer than 100 gun deaths in 2019.
Gun Deaths by State 2024
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I look at what is happening in the REAL WORLD! I hear it every week about why people are moving down here from places like NYC and it ain't because they are afraid of the violence here.You used a google search as evidence? NYC has a lower crime rate than Greenville, FYI.
2024 Compare Crime Rates: Greenville, SC vs New York, NY
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If people looked at the facts instead of being manipulated by their favorite media outlet, we might not be at odds with each other.
I wish they wouldn't, but they are! FACT
What an asshole. Your response to NYtiger was based on what you hear in right wing media. You think those people care about informing you?
Lol no one is moving from New York to SC bc of less crime. They’re moving because cost of living is dramatically cheaper, the people you speak to are probably old and retiring since you come across as 50-60+, and WFH is now more commonplace so people don’t have to live in big cities to have high paying “big city jobs.”
I doubt crime is the reason people are moving from NY to SC. More likely - and I say this because I know people who have made the move recently (including people that I am related to through marriage):
- they are poors who cannto afford to live in NYC but can live like kings in SC.
- they cannot afford property here but can easily do so in SC, thus outbidding you.
- they were MAGA MAGAs who were angry when NYC rejected trump, so they dream of moving to a place where more mindless MAGA sheep exist.
To be fair to him, his wife has had a record year selling FOUR houses! Look out Mark Spain!
You need to learn the difference between facts and anecdotes.
This has been happening since COVID because people realized it's unsafe to be in such a densely populated area during a pandemic. Couple that with the majority of companies allowing employees to work remotely and that explains 90% of it. There may be a few that want to get away from crime but that would have been true regardless of the year. LMAO that you believe that's the main driver.
I am getting quoted by the left wing mafia...LMFAO!
We are back to COVID now? That's why they are moving down to the South?
Gotcha Homie.
I've been To NY/NJ many times and tell me why people moving here from the likes of couples from Princeton and Battery Park moving to central SC? These are just two of, I'd say a dozen families my wife have moved from these surrounding areas. (best to say, none of them could afford, out of price range, to live on Murray)
We are back to COVID now? That's why they are moving down to the South?
Gotcha Homie.
I've been To NY/NJ many times and tell me why people moving here from the likes of couples from Princeton and Battery Park moving to central SC? These are just two of, I'd say a dozen families my wife have moved from these surrounding areas. (best to say, none of them could afford, out of price range, to live on Murray)
so the crime in NYC is causing people from NJ to move to SC? That makes sense. Well done.
Crime is only part of the reason. NYC is a shithole is the biggest reason. High taxes, high crime, reduced freedoms, high barriers to entry for businesses and so much more.
Put your thinking cap on Junior.
If you're in Jersey and work in NYC, where is a lot of this crime happening? BINGO!
FACT: I have personal experience with this because our main office is located in NYC. When the pandemic hit, many of our employees no longer wanted to come into the office and quite a few of them decided to move to less populated areas of the country, because they felt it would be safer for their families. The owner didn't want to lose these valuable employees so he agreed to a new remote work policy for all current employees as well as new hires. The majority of our employees are now fully remote and a large number of the employees from the NYC office moved to smaller cities, mostly out of state. Not a single one of them mentioned crime as the driver behind their desire to move. So the answer is YES, COVID was the main driver for these re-locations.
Fact Taken.
Fact is, that I have spoken to many and crime is a factor for them not staying in NYC and NJ. Is remote working a factor, I'm sure it is, especially if you don't have to take your life in your own hands, it's a win/win.
My BIL lives in NJ and he loves the Yankees and NYC, Rarely goes there anymore.
If NYC is a shithole, what does that make Easley, Seneca, Columbia, Orangburg, Anderson, etc? And why do some of the wealthiest people in the world choose to have a home in NYC?
Yes, taxes are high. Crime is lower than it is in Greenville, which is a lovely town. I've never experienced any reduced freedoms when visiting NYC. In fact, given that bars stay open later and cannabis will be legal, I would say there might be more freedom. And the barriers to entry for businesses would be debatable. Yes, there is more regulation than South Carolina, but the number of companies being started in NYC is significantly higher than what is being started in South Carolina. There is almost zero startup activity in south carolina.
And this isn't to shit on South Carolina. It has some beautiful areas. But to call NYC a shithole is just intellectually dishonest. It's one of the greatest cities in the world.
I have been on this board for almost 20 years, and this is a common theme here.
@moradatiger70 : NYC is a shithole!
Also moradoradoratiger: Anyone got any recs for an affordable hotel and good places to eat in NYC?
NYC isn't for everyone, and i imagine the demographics of this board being old white guys from the country probably explains their feelings about NYC. that being said, if you value art, some of the best cuisines in the world, experiencing different cultures, 24 hour entertainment options, and an active lifestyle, then you can see the value in a place like NYC.
"What did you do in NYC?"
- "We walked around Times Square, saw the statue of liberty, and watched the clemson game at a buffalo wild wings".
"Where else did you eat?"
- "We ate at the Red Lobster in Times Square and it was so expensive! And not nearly as good as the one in Anderson. We also got pizza from Sbarro near Penn Station. It was just ok, but really expensive."
"Did you have fun?"
- "No. I don't know why anyone would want to live there. It's an overpriced shithole."
Been to NYC hand full of times and enjoyed it. Also, did some fly fishing in Jersey.
Old white country boy from SC, can you believe it?
Never been but want to. My Grandfather spent larger part of his career as a managing partner in the WTC, but they moved out after 1993 bombing (thankfully) and he retired in '97 so thank god wasn't there on 9/11. Still so want to go to the memorial there and try all the restaurants that he used to go to, if they are still there.
you're in finance, right? you should try and make it up sometime if your firm has a NYC branch - i'm sure those guys/gals can take you to some incredibly good local restaurants and tell you some good spots where to stay. my wife goes up every 2 weeks for work as her company's HQ is located there and she stays at her friend's condo in Greenwich Village and loves it. she's been trying to get us to buy a pied-a-terre somewhere in the city so she doesn't have to crash with her friend, but the hell with that. we looked at a 400sqft studio that was around $600k... no thank you
Unfortunately we have primarily cutoff inter-branch (is that a word?) travel post COVID, management deemed it unnecessary after working a full audit cycle remote with Zoom/Teams. Only the partners/principals, executive leadership, and senior managers get those benefits. One of my projects during COVID was based out of NYC so didn't get to go then. I have a friend from Clemson she posted she was in Times Square at 8am this morning visiting, which encouraged me to comment in the first place lol.
Would never pay that much to live anywhere but it is insane, several colleages, so I have been told, pretty much start their career renting a "room" from a person, similar as off-campus housing but you are a professional. I could never. Plus not a fan of the cold though so probably would opt for early Fall or Spring.
Boston is the same too in my book, wanted to go to BC last week but had those plans fall through couple months back. Kinda silly I have been to Maui but not NYC which is so much closer to SC lol
I really like NYC. Have been a bunch of times. Wouldn’t want to live there, but great city to visit.
That said, those crime comparisons are kind of silly. One was factoring in income for their ratings. SC also has a lot of “country” crime or bad areas of places like N Charleston, etc that none of us visit. So those stats don’t really paint an accurate picture of the crime a college educated professional living in a good area may face in NYC vs SC.
That said, those crime comparisons are kind of silly. One was factoring in income for their ratings. SC also has a lot of “country” crime or bad areas of places like N Charleston, etc that none of us visit. So those stats don’t really paint an accurate picture of the crime a college educated professional living in a good area may face in NYC vs SC.
As silly as you guys constantly going on about crime in large, dem-controlled cities. All big cities are, by nature, going to have more crime. There are many more people all living on top of each other. More people, both bad and good, moving there to chase opportunities.
EDIT: also murder rate per capita is highest in southern red states. There is no denying it.
Murder Rate by State 2024
probably because per capita is the best and most accurate example of how to examine data sets across points with limited similarities
As silly as you guys constantly going on about crime in large, dem-controlled cities. All big cities are, by nature, going to have more crime. There are many more people all living on top of each other. More people, both bad and good, moving there to chase opportunities.
EDIT: also murder rate per capita is highest in southern red states. There is no denying it.
Murder Rate by State 2024
Im not sure you guys means me…
My point remains. That data isn’t necessarily indicative of how safe your wife or daughter would be in a given city at midnight. Or the risk of having your home in a good area broken into or vandalized.
You can dig a bit deeper if you want to see what’s driving those southern murder rates. There’s a pretty obvious trend.
The trend is that a very large portion of those murders are in dem areas within those states. Many with dem mayors/county/city/local control.
Yes, in areas that are much, much more likely to be filled with democrat voters and under democrat political control.
it doesn't have shit to do w/ Dem vs Pub. is your belief that democrats are inherently more prone to crimes than republicans?
I get what you are saying and agree, though NYC is probably not the best example. I've never been concerned when my wife has been visiting friends in NYC and would walk at night. However, I would be concerned about her walking in Greenville or Charleston. NYC is safe at night due to the number of people around. In fact, I would be less worried about her in NYC than almost any city in America.
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