Hahahahahahhahahahahhaha. Sucks for the kid, shame they were born to stupid parents and then robbed of a chance at life.
Did y’all see the anti-vax couple whose kid just died of measles?
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How many of you libs are proud to have him in your side of the aisle? How many of you agree with him word for word regarding this Mennonite family? I am not surprised by his post. Not one iota. If someone on the right said something similar, there would be posts of disgust from the conservative posters on this board. So far, no comments for or against by the resident libs. Where are you?
Reread the post. If I'm not talking to the troll, I'm not feeding him. I am addressing the other libs. I'm very curious about what kind of people they actually are. I don't think any of us are angels, but surely everyone on this board has a limit to things they find so disgusting they won't step up to the plate and condemn a post by someone on their side of the aisle. I am thinking of at least two libs who probably will because they are not like the rest. Maybe I'm delusional.
Anti vax dipshits losing offspring to preventable disease is the greatest example of natural selection in humans. This is a perfect example of weeding out the idiots
Actively celebrating the death of a child regardless of the circumstance is the most disgraceful and shameful thing I’ve ever seen. I hope you don’t have children.
Personally, I think it’s tragic and I feel horrible for the children.
The party of compassion everyone. The fact is you’re celebrating the death of a child. Did you throw a party when Laken Riley was murdered too? Bc that wasn’t her fault just like this wasn’t that child’s fault.
Laken Riley’s death wasn’t due to a preventable disease. This poor kid’s was. I’m more making fun of the stupidity of the parents.
Parents should be in jail
So should parents that allow children to mutilate their sexual organs or take hormone drugs. If they’re too young to consent to passing on vaccines they’re too young to decide they’re a different sex. We can agree there right.
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Well seeing as how one lead to a death, and the other doesn't, it's not exactly a fair comparison. I am tired of the bullshit mistrust of Doctors and science leading to harm for kids. The attempt to "whatabout" with trans children and families is ridiculous and not comparable.
I know of a family who has a child with a condition where the Strep Virus locates itself in the Brain and has imense impact on Brain function and activity. Untreated, the child will slowly decline until death. At this point the child is 10 and in a Self Contained Special Education class with children who are severely handicapped. She is almost fully non verbal at this point and losing motor skills.
The family is not treating her due to "religious" feelings. The treatment: antibiotics. That's it, it would have fixed her and could stop the profession at any point it was administered. It can't fix any damage already done however. This perfectly developing child is going to be dead in less than 10 years because her parents don't trust Doctors.
In being pissed at the parents, and lamenting this type of decision, I am mourning these children who are being punished by having the poor luck of being born to morons.
It’s incredibly sad that children are put in the middle. However I think you are dismissing the suicide numbers of that demographic. It’s an epidemic and sex changes aren’t helping. Your heartache for children being misled shouldn’t stop at vaccines. Promoting a potentially dangerous mental illness in young children who may be vulnerable or confused is just as sickening as not giving someone medical care - they are in fact the same thing. Two people in need of care.
From a 2023 study:
transgender people were significantly more likely to experience poor mental health during their lifetimes. Compared to cisgender adults, transgender adults were seven times more likely to contemplate suicide, four times more likely to attempt it, and eight times more likely to engage in non-suicidal self-injury.
2 things:
1) Yes, gender dysphoria is a disorder, and I do wish that it was identified more that way because then I think, over time, it would be viewed differently. Its a clinical, medical disorder. One of, if not the, most recognized treatment for the disorder is transitioning to the other gender. Essentially the only true treatment for your mind believing your are the opposite gender of your body is to then make your body that gender. Easier to treat the body than the mind, I suppose. I don’t think its unreasonable for people to argue that some treatments should be delayed until a person is an adult, however if its viewed as a disorder, then the question becomes, if your child is diagnosed with any disorder then should they have to wait until they’re adults to actively treat it? It seems obvious to me the answer is no, so if gender dysphoria is a disorder, then why does that one require waiting until adulthood to treat?
2) You’re correct that there is a significantly higher suicide rate among the transgender community than others. Do you believe that the type of daily harassment transgender people face and the very public efforts to curb their rights and deny their existence contributes to those issues?
Did/or do you ever stop to think that maybe feeling as if you won't be accepted by friends,family,Church, and all of society because you are confused,scared, and feel alone might be what is leading to these higher levels of suicide?
I absolutely agree with the need for therapy and mental care for those kids. I don't feel like they should have any permanent medical procedures until 18. I also don't think that this is as big of an issue as the Right is trying to make it. There are far more kids being affected by antivaxers than any trans person.
Would you consider a child that thinks he’s a power ranger a disorder? How about a white child that thinks he is really black, do they get a pass too? It’s just a ridiculous premise when talking about children. If you want to make that argument for adults I would say go for it. But young people are not in positions to even understand that kind of thing. There was a woman on X last week that had determined her newborn baby was transgender and wanted to have a procedure done. A newborn. Kids are confused and vulnerable, they need guidance and support not to be told they’re something they aren’t. I knew a ton of feminine boys growing up, those kids now would be considered “to have a disorder”? Is being a feminine man or a masculine woman a disorder? I have two children. Both thought they were soldiers or power rangers or dinosaurs or football players or whatever it’s just how that works. They also think if they lose at Xbox the world is over. They are children. They have imagination and wonder, we should be more careful with this stuff. There are thousands of kids that were transitioned as youth who say it was the absolute worst thing they’ve done by far. And the adults allowed that. Your point only stands valid if someone agrees that a child’s imagination is a disorder, for that I disagree with you.
In my experience I just don’t see that. I’ve been around trans people, a lot. I haven’t seen this vile outward hate that you describe. I live in the upstate. I went to Verizon in my town last week. The guy that helped me had a full beard, lipstick, eye make up, fingernails and had they/them on his name tag. Idgaf about that, no one did, I treated him with respect and he helped me (I’m saying he, not being offensive). In fact you could argue they’re much more protected. Several of the recent school shooters were trans, no mention of that. 3 out of 4 arrested for Tesla burnings were trans yet they only make up like 0.3% of the population. Do you think that maybe there’s something else going on here?
So you seeing a person who didn't identify as their birth sex, lead you to believe that you know "lots" of trans people? How do you know that they consider themselves trans? I wonder if you realize that the vast majority of Drag Queens don't identify as trans?
Agree with you basic premise, but then you say ridiculous things such as ," there are thousands of kids who have transitioned who..." That's such an exaggeration as to be laughable.
I agree with you about dumbass parents who would do what those in your outrageous example want to do.
I also am not blaming every Republican for dumbasses who won't vaccinate their children, which can be more harmful than allowing a male child to wear a dress.
But wearing a dress isn’t what we are talking about. That is completely harmless. Adults, parents and worse doctors telling young, impressionable people that they were born with the wrong sexual organs is wrong and misleading and it’s causing a ton of mental problems down the road. No one disputes that.
I’m not sure. I don’t ask people if there trans or not bc I don’t care and it’s rude af. I just know that he wasn’t a traditional man. They/them seems to be prevalent in that community.
And thousands is accurate. From the NIH:
12% of those who had started hormonal treatments either detransitioned or documented regret after an average of five years …
That kind of denial is what’s making this worse. Take note.
Transition Regret and Detransition: Meanings and Uncertainties - PMC
Gender transition is undertaken to improve the well-being of people suffering from gender dysphoria. However, some have argued that the evidence supporting medical interventions for gender transition (e.g., hormonal therapies and surgery) is weak ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
The most cited reasons for detransitioning included: realization that gender dysphoria was related to other issues (71%), health concerns (62%), transition failed to help with dysphoria (50%), found other ways to manage dysphoria (45%), unhappiness with social changes (44%), and change in political views (43%). Only 13% and 10% cited a lack of social support and discrimination as reasons for detransition, respectively. In total, 60% reported needing psychological support to cope with feelings of regret.
Only 1 in 10 cited lack or support or discrimination. The lefts narrative is wrong.
They/them is typically used when someone is gender fluid and isn't sure. Trans people don't use they/them, trans people use the chosen/preferred pronoun typically.
Agree it's rude and am glad that you said that and seem not to be an asshole. That person is just trying to live their lives the best they know how, I'm not going to judge them.
No shit, I don’t care, never will care. If I’m treated w respect I am respectful period, full stop. I’d say the vast majority of people are that way. They can do whatever they want. But that’s not an endorsement to drag children into it.
And thousands is accurate. From the NIH:
12% of those who had started hormonal treatments either detransitioned or documented regret after an average of five years …
That kind of denial is what’s making this worse. Take note.
Transition Regret and Detransition: Meanings and Uncertainties - PMC
Gender transition is undertaken to improve the well-being of people suffering from gender dysphoria. However, some have argued that the evidence supporting medical interventions for gender transition (e.g., hormonal therapies and surgery) is weak ...
So let's use this scenario that was used above. You have child of 12 who is very confused and potentially depressed or suicidal. If you are a parent, what do you do?
You take the kid to a Psychiatrist who starts therapy to see what can be done to make this child not depressed or suicidal. They claim the root is that the biological male feels like they are a female. You start by letting them wear female clothes and use a female name if that will make them feel less depressed and non suicidal. You can then continue therapy as they develop to see if that is helping. I am ok with a Psychiatrist, with parental acceptance starting hormone therapy if that is what makes the child less depressed and less apt to endanger themselves. I would not be OK with anything permanent or surgical at this age.
Then when they child gets to 18 they can make choices while under the care of their medical professional. I personally have huge issues with Family Doctors being able to administer Psychosomatic drugs such as anti-depressants since they aren't experts in the use and treatment of mental conditions. I feel the same about hormone therapy for underage children.
It's not ideal it's not perfect, but the main goal is to get that kid to adulthood, to keep them safe and functioning as they figure shit out. Are there examples of kids who did it for attention or something similar? Sure, there are kids who fake all kinds of shit for attention. The goal is always to keep them alive.
@yoshi121374 and @
I wouldn’t stop at 18 but when they’re on their own, they can go do whatever they want. I support adults making whatever decisions they want as long as they aren’t hurting others.
I would react the same way as if he told me my child’s problem was they we’re actually a cat. i would have stopped with the doctor that told me the root is they’re actually a biological female. I would’ve walked out the door and got a second opinion. No different than if I get a cancer diagnosis, I would want multiple attestation from multiple professionals in the field. If that’s the consensus after that then I’d review the options with my spouse and child to determine next steps. My assumption is that would not be a consensus amongst medical professionals however.
I wouldn’t stop at 18 but when they’re on their own, they can go do whatever they want. I support adults making whatever decisions they want as long as they aren’t hurting others.
My daughter almost died as a RESULT OF TAKING THE COVID VACCINE PER THE MAYO CLINIC
Taking a vaccine can be as dangerous as NOT TAKING A VACCINE
People die every day as a result of taking a vaccine
There is a danger in taking a vaccine and it becomes a choice
I was alive before the measles vaccine was developed and had to survive the measles unvaccinated so i had no choice
The tone of YOUR REPSONSE gives me pause
Thank God I am not you
I pray that you find wisdom and help
Biden made the choice for Laken Riley to put a murderer in America
The parents made the choice not to vaccinate a child
Millions of people survive measles with no vaccination
Few people survive murder
Probably don't make sense but that is my take on this
I have 2 and one was just a survivor of COVID vaccine complications
I will be taking NO MORE COVID VACCINATIONS unless it is shown to be safe and not cause complications
Sad that anyone would be "making fun" of a child that dies. Whether it's about family members or not. That's about as despicable as one can get.
On your doctors second opinions
I have just had two procedures by doctors run on me after multiple mis diagnoses on two health issues I have suffered for about 4 years
Several doctors were suggesting major surgery when the problem was simple ABLAST treatments for stray nerves growing in my body
Doctors will only make money on what they specialize in so they do unneeded surgery when simple treatments will work
I don’t think folks like that believe in any kind of God or higher power bc if they did, they’d fear his wrath. That’s the type of response typically reserved for that demo in my experience. He’s probably not overly concerned about this issue as much as he just needed to “be right”. Who starts a thread celebrating a dying child ever? He could’ve just tried to make it about the parents but took it a little too far. And to your point there was a study released early this week stating that the covid vaccine was very dangerous and detrimental. Huge increases in MI and myocarditis. I’ll see if I can find it.
Doctors are human. They get lazy, make mistakes just like us. This is pretty common especially if you stayed within their system. Anytime they want to work on you go to a totally different system and get a second opinion. A lot of times they are tied by GPO’s and formularies for procedures, sometimes a doc gets real good at something and everything presented to them becomes that. I was in the hospital professionally for 15 years. I’ve seen a lot.
Name a single medication that has zero complications possible. I'll help, there aren't any. All medications have potential side effects.
Also, we were discussing measles vaccines. Nobody said anything about covid.
there’s no situation where the death of a child should be met with joy or vindication
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Sigh... No man. Of COURSE I don't believe that anyone should be celebrating the death of a kid. I doubt that anyone on this board believes that... INCLUDING the OP. IMHO, he made that post looking to stir you and others up. That was my point... When you don't respond, the thread drops right down the page and goes away. So yes, you are feeding the troll... and so am I by responding. If you stop (and everyone else including me does) the thread just goes away as it should.
And thousands is accurate. From the NIH:
12% of those who had started hormonal treatments either detransitioned or documented regret after an average of five years …
That kind of denial is what’s making this worse. Take note.
Transition Regret and Detransition: Meanings and Uncertainties - PMC
Gender transition is undertaken to improve the well-being of people suffering from gender dysphoria. However, some have argued that the evidence supporting medical interventions for gender transition (e.g., hormonal therapies and surgery) is weak ...
The most cited reasons for detransitioning included: realization that gender dysphoria was related to other issues (71%), health concerns (62%), transition failed to help with dysphoria (50%), found other ways to manage dysphoria (45%), unhappiness with social changes (44%), and change in political views (43%). Only 13% and 10% cited a lack of social support and discrimination as reasons for detransition, respectively. In total, 60% reported needing psychological support to cope with feelings of regret.
Only 1 in 10 cited lack or support or discrimination. The lefts narrative is wrong.
It just hit me. This study means that 88% who transitioned had no regrets. That's a pretty high percentage who were glad and this what what they needed to feel happy.
Sigh all you want but you're still confused. You seem to have a comprehension problem. He didn't stir me up. My goal was not to let the post go away. If you're a liberal, I understand why you would want it to. My goal was clearly stated. I wanted to see which of the libs who are always claiming the moral high ground would condemn his post. If you don't like it, I don't really give a damn. Please post again how I'm being trolled so the thread goes back to the top. That would be perfect.
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