LOL. Trump really does have a sense of humor. That comment on running again is pure gold.
Donald Trump
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Yah, Trump would never try something cRaZy or illegal amirite?
Congressman seeks change to allow Trump a third term
The proposal from Rep. Andy Ogles faces steep odds of becoming law, but Trump has brought up the idea multiple times
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That proposal isn't going to go anywhere with dems in lockstep opposing anything that Trump says or does.Yah, Trump would never try something cRaZy or illegal amirite?
Congressman seeks change to allow Trump a third term
The proposal from Rep. Andy Ogles faces steep odds of becoming law, but Trump has brought up the idea multiple times
As they should, especially since he's destroying our institutions by ripping them out root and stem and re-making the country into an organized crime syndicate, staffed with yes men who are only loyal to him, with no guardrails
Would it not go through the constitutional amendment process to be successful? Does it say they are trying to subvert that in any way ?Can you point out the illegal part for me, I don't see it?Yah, Trump would never try something cRaZy or illegal amirite?
Congressman seeks change to allow Trump a third term
The proposal from Rep. Andy Ogles faces steep odds of becoming law, but Trump has brought up the idea multiple times
Yeah, we're doomed. There is no hope. Each day just brings more bad news with no end in sight. And to think Trump is more popular than ever is just so frustrating. I'm gong to be an emotional wreck after another 1,453 days of this.
Did the Constitution matter to Trump on Jan 6th? Do you think it will matter to his loyal sycophants in his Cabinet who will gladly and willingly put his wishes above the country's?
Well this clears it up for me. Just another example of you living in an alternate universe devoid of reality. Please continue the fear mongering nonsense with zero proof. I will continue to rely on what he actually did for four as potus to form my expectations of future actions.
You should seek some mental health guidance. Kudos to you, though. I'm astonished you mange to dress and feed yourself in your current mental state.
You're ignoring plenty of evidence that this administration has radical plans for our institutions and our realtionships with the rest of the world. And everyday, he does another thing to disenfranchise another group of voters. I think you're also discounting how disgusted the public is with his releasing of the violent J6ers and treating them like patriotic heroes while ignoring the victims of their crimes. It won't be long before approval polling shows that he's still as hated as he ever was, if not more.
Clears it up for me too. If you ONLY focus on the good things he did in four years and ignore the rest, you can pretend like he was a great president who cares about following the law. Kudos to you though for being able to compartmentalize like a pro.
I have never said I thought he was a great potus. I don't think he was. He spent way to much $$$ for my liking, is a crappy person, and acts like a child. He was still, by far, the better of the two options. Both then and now.
Everyone who voted for trump (which is the majority of americans and enough to produce a significant electoral victory) knew he was going to pardon the J6ers, many of whom had already been punished with jail time. There is also, to me, questions as to fairness and application of the law, so I'm good with it and so are the people who voted for trump. .
I also think that it's a good indicator that we elected a POTUS that might actually be acting in accordance with his campaign rhetoric. Might not get everything done, but he is working down the list and trying.
As far as plans for the institutions and relationships with the rest of the world. The majority of Americans voted for that too.
- The majority of Americans voted for someone other than Trump - 49.8% is not the majority of voters.
- Exit polling shows his voter's number one issue was the economy.
- I have serious doubts those voters wanted the violent J6ers released and invited to roam the halls of the Capitol and get VIP seating at his Vegas rally.
- Again, they voted on the economy, not sucking up to Putin and Orban while threatening our friendly NATO allies if they don't give us their land for free because we just want it. As a matter of fact, this new Imperialism was never even mentioned during the campaign so no, they did not vote for that too.
I think you greatly overestimate how much people care about J6. We're pretty much over the BLM riots too. We're turning the page and moving on.
The economy... sure it's important. But the only people who are crying about how the price of eggs hasn't dropped by 50% in the first week of this admin are those that didn't vote for trump, or dumbasses.
I love the fact that the Trump admin is willing to use the Informational and Economic instruments of national power in addition to diplomatic and military. Trump is coming in hard and fast on his America First agenda. I'm good with that too.
- The BLM riots weren't instigated by a president nor did they have anything to do with being a democrat unless you're saying only democrats care about unarmed black people being murdered by police, so of course you should be over it.
- I think you underestimate how the public feels about releasing the violent J6ers - we'll see
- It's not about the price of eggs - it's just a metaphor for the economy, which he doesn't appear to be addressing after he said prices would start coming down "quickly", "fast" and "starting Day 1"
- Can you tell me what that plan is to address the voter's number one concern?
- You might get a woody over him threatening our allies, but he's in the process of driving other countries to look to China instead of us, while we become the world's number one pariah nation. It's not who we are, it's not who we've ever been and no one should be ok with it.
Robert Reich
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Friends,
I want to share with you some thoughts about the first week of Trump II
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The New York Times describes Trump as leading “a global wave of hard-line conservative populism.”
Rubbish.
What Trump is undertaking has nothing whatever to do with conservatism, which is about conserving institutions and shrinking the size of government. And it has nothing to do with populism, which is about confronting elites.
Trump is leading a move to replace democracy with oligarchy.
He’s implementing a plan to make the wealthiest people in America far wealthier and more powerful, including Trump himself, and to turn American democracy into a giant corporation run by a handful of absurdly rich men.
He thinks he can accomplish this by getting the rest of us so angry at one another — over immigration, LGBTQ+ rights, abortion, diversity, and the like — that we don’t look upward and see where most of the wealth and power have gone.
Trump’s divisive policies will cause great harm, to be sure, and we must do everything we can to protect those who are vulnerable to them. But his cruel divisiveness is deflecting attention from the main event.
The media reported on all the hot buttons Trump pushed: The government now recognizes only two “immutable” genders, male and female. Migrants (now referred to as “aliens”) are being turned away at the border. Immigration agents are freed to target hospitals, schools, and churches in search of people to deport. Diversity efforts in the federal government have been dismantled and employees turned into snitches. Federal money will be barred from paying for many abortions.
All awful to be sure, but the bigger story is Trump’s consolidation of power — substituting loyalists for experts across the government, using retribution to intimidate others, purging the government’s independent inspectors general, giving the Defense Department more authority over civilian life (and putting a raving loyalist in charge), giving Elon Musk authority to cut spending and roll back regulations, and readying a massive tax cut for the wealthy and big corporations.
Americans aren’t seeing this big story yet because Trump’s divisiveness is masking it.
One example: Trump fired Lina Khan, the aggressive monopoly-buster chair of the Federal Trade Commission, and replaced her with corporate stooge Andrew Ferguson. As a result, giant corporations and their CEOs are now free to get even bigger — merging with one another, acquiring smaller companies, and using predatory bullying to wipe out competitors. These are key steps on the road toward even more concentrated oligarchic control.
Yet what’s been reported this week is that Ferguson is purging diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) policies from the Federal Trade Commission.
I’m not playing down the importance of DEI. I’m just saying that the really big shift is happening behind the rightward flip. In fact, the terms “left” and “right” mean less and less now. The big story is about power and wealth moving into fewer and fewer hands.
Trump is the frontman. The three richest men in the world (Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Mark Zuckerberg) stood prominently before him when he was sworn in last week. Trump has appointed other billionaires to key positions.
Behind them is a coterie of billionaires pushing for more oligarchic control of America (among them, Peter Thiel, Blake Masters, tech entrepreneur David Sacks, Palantir co-founder Joe Lonsdale, Palantir adviser Jacob Helberg, and Sequoia Capital’s Doug Leone).
Their two key inside players are Musk and JD Vance.
The oligarchs are counting on Vance to become president when Trump is incapacitated or dies in office, or clings to power beyond 2028 and turns power over to Vance. Vance will manage the final transition to an oligarchic form of government.
Recall that Vance would never have been elected senator from Ohio in 2022 were it not for Thiel’s $15 million investment in him (by far the largest portion of Vance’s campaign fund).
Thiel knew what he was buying. Vance had worked for Thiel’s California venture capital firm before running for the Senate and was part of Thiel’s group of rich crypto bros, tech executives, back-to-the-landers, and disaffected far-right intellectuals.
Because Thiel had been a major funder of Trump’s 2016 presidential run, he had significant influence with Trump when urging him to pick Vance for vice president.
Thiel once wrote: “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” Hello? Freedom is incompatible with democracy only if you view democracy as a potential constraint on your wealth and power.
That’s the whole point. Thiel and his fellow billionaire oligarchs want it all.
Their intellectual godfather is Curtis Yarvin, a 51-year-old computer engineer who believes that political power in the United States has been held by a liberal amalgam of universities and the mainstream media, whose commitment to equality and justice is eroding social order.
Yarvin thinks democratic governments are inefficient and wasteful. They should be replaced with sovereign joint-stock corporations whose major “shareholders” select an executive with total power, who serves at their pleasure. Yarvin refers to the city-state of Singapore as an example of a successful authoritarian regime.
The first step toward achieving Yarvin’s vision was offered by Vance in a 2021 podcast — replace “every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state … with our people. And when the courts stop you, stand before the country, and say” – as did Andrew Jackson – that “the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”
Yarvin’s emphasis on the inefficiency of democratic government is the seed for Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, itself another step toward Yarvin’s joint-stock corporation of oligarchs.
A third step: cryptocurrency substitutes for the U.S. dollar. This would shift financial controls out of a democratically elected system of government and into the hands of oligarchs who control crypto.
Make no mistake: Trump’s first week was a catastrophe for many vulnerable people. But the biggest story was his startling initial moves from democracy to oligarchy.
My hope lies in Americans noticing this.
As I’ve said, not since the Gilded Age of the late 19th century has such vast wealth turned itself into power so unapologetically, unashamedly, and defiantly.
Americans don’t abide aristocracy. We were founded in revolt against unaccountable power and wealth. We will not tolerate this barefaced takeover.
The backlash, when it comes, will be stunning.
What do you think?
Every Senator - Democrat and Republican - should recognize the unique danger posed by this person and vote against him. Do not be complicit in handing the reins to this guy.
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