Don't say you weren't warned
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No, I think "poor dpic" is more afraid of Trump just casually saying that he (assuming that he's elected President in 2023) would "Negotiate" on what the Constitution says and his Trumpians (like yourself) don't even raise an eyebrow. Here's the 22nd Amendment:
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No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
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Seems pretty clear. So tell us Growlz, do you agree with Trump or not on this? Is he' "owed" another term? Does he get to "negotiate" on what the constitution does and does not permit?
MAGA Sheep, ultra MAGA, mega MAGA......you sound so incredibly stupid.
Put your tampon back in and tell your therapist where Trump touched you.
I wish someone would have warned us about Eric Swalwell......subverting federal subpeonas and legal processes. This after of course he banged a chinese spy, gave her a job and then managed to still stay on intelligence committees.
Dear god, you libs love to throw stones in glass houses.
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Dear god, you libs love to throw stones in glass houses.
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Thanks for being a pushover to Putin's lackey. History will not be kind to people like you when they write about the destruction of our system of government and how we let it happen.
I do not think it is fine. Trump is a narcissistic jackass, so no surprise he would quote another one.
So how do feel about Biden, newsome, etc welcoming Xi - whose country is by far the single largest contributor to climate change(if you believe the science). According to Biden and most dems, the single biggest threat to us and the world is climate change. Bigger than the economy, terrorists, - even bigger than trump and putin. Not only is it the biggest threat, but it is an immediate threat that has to be addressed now.
If I believed this there is zero chance I am hosting him in a the same way the dems have. Not only that, there is zero chance I let China's numerous attempts to provoke us and our allies go unchallenged. If you think that is the case you should be making damn sure they know we are THE superpower. We should be showing strength so that when we approach them about climate standards, they do something other than laugh at us.
If you are going to make a list of sadistic dictators, Xi is right there with multiple human rights atrocities from China over the last decade and beyond. Just bc his public demeanor is not that of putin, it doesn't make his actions any less detrimental.
President Xi is a brilliant man. If you went all over Hollywood to look for somebody to play the role of President Xi, you couldn't find it. There's nobody like that. The look, the brain, the whole thing.
I am not defending trump. My question was why do you not care about dems/biden doing the same given their position that climate change is is an immediate and largest threat to us and the world?
I am not sure I see your point. Arent summits with world leaders how shit gets done? Do you think biden would have more success if he just started threatening china all the time and cut off diplomacy?
The economy is moving because of legislation and trade agreements that Trump put in place that are still in effect. Biden has done nothing but the one big bill that did nothing to change the underpinnigs of the economy. Biden's bill mainly just injected trillions of dollars into the economy causing more inflations and the citizens are all unhappy because the inflation has robbed them of spending power on a huge level. Its that simple.
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What are you talking about? Trump has served one term only. Now if its conclusively proven that a coup was taking place during his entire first term then it could be genuinely considered whether he is owed a do over on the first term. I am not worried about that anyway and honestly think that Trump would only want to serve one more term. He is getting up there in age too.
He will come in and set the ship firmly on the right track in 4 years imo.
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I'm not following how this applies to this thread. Biden and Newsome met with Xi to work on positive initiatives but Trump praises him for being a dictator, telegraphing what he plans to do if re-elected. This isn't about agreeing or disagreeing with what Biden does, it's a warning that we will be more like China than we've ever been if we allow this man back into the White House. Hate Biden all you want but he will never be the lesser of these two evils.
You know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Here's the quote from THIS VERY THREAD:
"We're going to win four more years in the White House, then after that we'll negotiate. Based on the way I was treated; we're probably entitled to another four after that." Donald Trump.
Once again, here's the 22nd Amendment. I'll bold the relevant part for you:
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
ONE MORE TIME: So tell us Growlz, do you agree with Trump or not on this? Is he' "owed" another term? Does he get to "negotiate" on what the constitution does and does not permit?
That's just laughable. It's stuff like this that keep anyone from taking you seriously.
I agree. But democrats did this same BS when Trump was in office. "The economy was humming because of muh Obama." That of course completely ignores the fact that growth had stagnated under Obama and even he thought we were maxed out. Trump took over and proved him wrong quickly.
And I agree with this as well. Very little that the President does will influence the economy in the short term. I will say that the Fed has done a pretty masterful job navigating post-covid inflation, and the US economy is far stronger than most realized or expected. We have recovered far faster than other developed Western Nations.
If the economy continues to improve that really hurts Trump. That's about his only real weapon, most people don't want 4 more years of Trump drama constantly. It's exhausting.
The economy is certainly showing resilience but inflation is still rearing its ugly head and I think it's too early to tell if it is under control. 2 more months of flat inflation readings and I think we are out of the woods, but any hint of inflation creeping higher before the election will devastate Biden.
Right here today, i don't think the economy is good enough to carry Biden to a win. However, I do think the trajectory we are on could keep him in office. 1-2 more good months of economic readings and the economy becomes less of a drag on him. I don't know if people trust Biden to not go back to his inflationary policies if he were to win again.
I agree people don't want 4 more years of Trump Drama. I think many of those same people don't want to see political prosecutions and the deep state trampling on the constitution either.
It almost sounds like you're threatening me with weird undertones but I don't think you have the sack for that......so I'm going to just giggle at your James Earl Jones theater style monologue and continue wondering how you'll survive if Trump actually wins.
You have a Non-US passport in case you have to move to a different country?
Was just trying to help him. Didn't want him to get discharge on his futon.
This entire time I thought Joe was talking about rich Americans not paying their fair share but turns out he was really just asking his family.
Feel like this is anti-democratic, no?
Feel like this is anti-democratic, no?
What exactly would you consider Bidens "inflationary policies"? I would suggest inflation was largely due to coming out of a world wide pandemic with massive supply and demand issues.
I disagree with your assessment of my opinion and honestly do not agree with most of your opinions. In other words, I think I am a lot smarter than you yoshi. LOL!!
What has Biden done as a move to directly improve the economy? Be specific.
Is the Trump tax plan still in place?
Are the china tariffs still in place?
Is USMCA trade agreement still in place?
What EO actions has Biden taken that resulted in economic improvement?
There is no doubt in my opinion that the economy is staying upright in spite of Biden due to the framework that Trump put in place and people are still unhappy with Biden on a historic level due to his actions that have resulted in the inflation and loss of spending power currently seen. If we still had a cost of living that we had at the end of Trumps term or even close to it then Biden would be in a lot better shape but we do not and he is hosed.
Is the Trump tax plan still in place?
Are the china tariffs still in place?
Is USMCA trade agreement still in place?
What EO actions has Biden taken that resulted in economic improvement?
There is no doubt in my opinion that the economy is staying upright in spite of Biden due to the framework that Trump put in place and people are still unhappy with Biden on a historic level due to his actions that have resulted in the inflation and loss of spending power currently seen. If we still had a cost of living that we had at the end of Trumps term or even close to it then Biden would be in a lot better shape but we do not and he is hosed.
No you didn't...Here's your quote:
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What are you talking about? Trump has served one term only. Now if its conclusively proven that a coup was taking place during his entire first term then it could be genuinely considered whether he is owed a do over on the first term. I am not worried about that anyway and honestly think that Trump would only want to serve one more term. He is getting up there in age too.
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Nope. You intentionally skipped over the Trump quote:
"We're going to win four more years in the White House, then after that we'll negotiate. Based on the way I was treated; we're probably entitled to another four after that." Donald Trump.
Trump said AFTER he's elected again, he wants to negotiate. Negotiate to set aside the Constitution so he can continue to be President.
Third times the charm? So tell us Growlz, do you agree with Trump or not on this? Is he' "owed" another term? Does he get to "negotiate" on what the constitution does and does not permit?
You aren't going to answer the question directly. We all KNOW what your answer would be if you had stones. Yes, yes, and yes. Because to you, Trump is absolutely above the law, including the Constitution. He "deserves" a 3rd term because he's Donald Trump. Of course Donald Trump gets to pick what parts of the constitution he wants to follow... he's Donald Trump. THAT'S making America great again... Following the Constitution, except when you don't agree with it.
Also, the last release of Covid relief money wasn't necessary as the economy had already passed the Inflection point of return growth, so it was released for votes......just like Trump's second release on his way out as his admin had the economy at break even. Those two things put too much money in circulation without enough supply of goods nor long term plans to solve the demand as supply chain issues loomed.
You can blame both presidents for inflation, but you can also see how Biden's policies have continued to perpetuate it despite the feds efforts to break the entire thing.
-Student Debt = more money in the economy
-Bloated spending bill after bloated spending bill = more money in the economy
These things = inflation
Does the constitution permit altering Fisa warrants to spy on your political opponents and frame them for colluding with their biggest adversary?
I don't agree with him serving an extra term, but I do agree with arresting those involved and trying them for treason.
I 100% agree. I was going to slow walk him into his own stupidity, I was just getting started. haha
We only have so much time on earth.......patience is a virtue I guess.
Because it's not the same. False equivalent. What Biden is doing is politics, managing another super power. But without the ass kissing and praise for his ability to ruthlessly keep a few billion oppressed. Using climate change is this context is silly.
You apparently have an irrational hate for Biden or Democrats in general. As do I for all things Trump and those that enable him and hate democracy. But the difference is I can show facts and reasons for my position. All you've got is fake out of context disinformation.
I've no problem with bringing charges against the folks you mentioned. No problem at all. Investigate, charge, and put them on trial. If they are found guilty punish them. That's my answer... ALWAYS.
In fact, wasn't there an investigation into this very thing with a special prosecutor appointed by Trump himself? Do you recall the results of that two year investigation performed by Durham? The guy HAND PICKED by Trump to investigate the "Crime of the Century"? Three people were charged. One plead guilty to altering an email and got probation for that misdemeanor. Two were tried and found not guilty (not the same as being innocent). No one else was charged.
But again, I've NO PROBLEM with another investigation into this. None. HOWEVER, I've notice that neither you nor Growlz will ever answer the question at hand... Do you support Trump wanting a third term... negotiating to go against the constitution? You and Growlz should apply to be President of an Ivy League University, you'd fit right in. You sound EXACTLY like those folks... refusing to answer questions that ANYONE should know the answer to.
Hints don't seem to work, so let me give you the right answer. Just like those Presidents refusing to answer the question that advocating for genocide is a violation of the student code of conduct. The correct answer there was: YES. It DOES Violate the Student Code and anyone who does that sort of thing is going to face whatever students who break that code face. In your case the answer is: NO. I do not support Trump's statement that he should be able to negotiate another term. The US Constitution is clear about this.
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It's never the same....... except for it is
I'm guessing his point is that if climate change was clearly the number one threat then why would we have any open dialogue with a country that is building cole plants faster than we can stand up a single wind turbine given the massive threat to humanity? Or do you not "follow the science" ? Also, it begs the question......why would a country 10 x more proficient than us in science, match etc bet on coal over the climate saving renewables, especially when they own most of the renewable market?
Maybe we can collect some data from the weather balloon they flew over the country? Wait, no....that was a spy balloon that happened to track over our most important military bases specifc to air power. When you couple that with China's military not having communicated with ours since August of 2022......that doesn't seem like a great thing given a few former CIA/military offiicals are predicting they invade the US within the next 2 years.
But thank god for Biden's politics.
Again, Trunp ran the country for four years and you woke up in January of 2021 with your democracy still intact. You also woke up not worrying about war but I guess you were triggered by mean tweets. Maybe man up a bit. You're basically DicPic with a better avatar.
The really pathetic factor about these MAGA dumbasses is they can't even understand what foulness the Orange One has infected them with. Thousands of dumbasses indicted for the Jan. 6 uprising, the exmayor of NY who at one time had a stellar reputation now in debt for $148 million dollars and a defendant in a criminal case, all because he was as big a dumbass as is TigerGrowls and followed Donald Trump. And what has the Orange One done to help the mayor? Not one ****ing thing. And now he talks in the language of Hitler and Mussolini and Tiger Growls stands there with his nose still up the ass of the Orange One.
