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Easter is the Goal to open America now...

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Trump just announced with the backing of Dr. Birk and CDC.

Target date is by Easter to resume Business and get back to work, open things back up.

CDC confirming now that although Covid-19 is highly contagious, it's not as deadly as once thought of.

Please kill the ridiculous legislation for the Stimulus package or at least reduce it now.

That is the plan, hope it sticks.

Oh, and wash your hands.
 
Trump just announced with the backing of Dr. Birk and CDC.

Target date is by Easter to resume Business and get back to work, open things back up.

CDC confirming now that although Covid-19 is highly contagious, it's not as deadly as once thought of.

Please kill the ridiculous legislation for the Stimulus package or at least reduce it now.

That is the plan, hope it sticks.

Oh, and wash your hands.

That sounds great to me, but can we just do a country wide freakin full, mandated shut down until then? My step sister in GA says people are still going out to eat and going to movie theaters. Why are some people on lock down responsibly while others are out doing what ever the hell they want. The way China and SK got ahead of it was full shutdown.
 
That sounds great to me, but can we just do a country wide freakin full, mandated shut down until then? My step sister in GA says people are still going out to eat and going to movie theaters. Why are some people on lock down responsibly while others are out doing what ever the hell they want. The way China and SK got ahead of it was full shutdown.

Difference in our society vs. Chinese society. We are a me culture in the USA. They are a we culture. Nothing we can ever do about that. Its sad, but its the truth
 
Trump just announced with the backing of Dr. Birk and CDC.

Target date is by Easter to resume Business and get back to work, open things back up.

CDC confirming now that although Covid-19 is highly contagious, it's not as deadly as once thought of.

Please kill the ridiculous legislation for the Stimulus package or at least reduce it now.

That is the plan, hope it sticks.

Oh, and wash your hands.

agreed screw the countless workers trying to make it pay check to pay check who can’t work right now due to the corona virus. The selfishness of some people is unreal.
 
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Trump just announced with the backing of Dr. Birk and CDC.

Target date is by Easter to resume Business and get back to work, open things back up.

CDC confirming now that although Covid-19 is highly contagious, it's not as deadly as once thought of.

Please kill the ridiculous legislation for the Stimulus package or at least reduce it now.

That is the plan, hope it sticks.

Oh, and wash your hands.

So i presume you live in Virginia. How are you feeling about them closing schools for THE REST OF THE YEAR. Knowing that the shutdown end date is Easter
 
Difference in our society vs. Chinese society. We are a me culture in the USA. They are a we culture. Nothing we can ever do about that. Its sad, but its the truth

this might be the stupidest post I’ve seen. China is a we country? They live under a dictatorship with the threat of death and no civil liberties. You think it’s culture that allowed them to force everyone inside. Jesus
 
I think this is a bad idea. We are going to see the curve level off and then spike back up again.

I hope someone bumps this post in a month and tells me I'm an idiot (or you can just tell me now).
 
this might be the stupidest post I’ve seen. China is a we country? They live under a dictatorship with the threat of death and no civil liberties. You think it’s culture that allowed them to force everyone inside. Jesus

he is actually right. Now, it might be the many years of living under a brutal communist dictatorship that made them that way, but they are most definitely more concerned with the collective than we are.
 
That sounds great to me, but can we just do a country wide freakin full, mandated shut down until then? My step sister in GA says people are still going out to eat and going to movie theaters. Why are some people on lock down responsibly while others are out doing what ever the hell they want. The way China and SK got ahead of it was full shutdown.

I hear what you're saying regarding restaurants, movies, etc - and would certainly close those along with beaches and other large gathering places - but I'm not 100% sure that a full shutdown (manufacturing facilities, stores, etc) wouldn't completely destroy the economy. Some people still need to work or we will be in a complete mess. Lots of people are literally paycheck to paycheck - right or wrong.

It probably should also be a regional decision - as some parts of the US are different than others. Thinking on it more, this is probably the primary point.

Plus Easter is a goal, not a set date. No way to predict if we will be able to make that work.

Difference in our society vs. Chinese society. We are a me culture in the USA. They are a we culture. Nothing we can ever do about that. Its sad, but its the truth

Actually China is probably taking the "do what we say or we will shoot you in the back of the head" approach. China isn't known to be respectful of human rights.
 
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So i presume you live in Virginia. How are you feeling about them closing schools for THE REST OF THE YEAR. Knowing that the shutdown end date is Easter

I have a feeling almost all places will close schools for the rest of the year. Even after business reopens.
 
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I think this is a bad idea. We are going to see the curve level off and then spike back up again.

I hope someone bumps this post in a month and tells me I'm an idiot (or you can just tell me now).

I think this whole thing is easier to take if people see an end date to it all - a "light at the end of the tunnel", so to speak.
 
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this might be the stupidest post I’ve seen. China is a we country? They live under a dictatorship with the threat of death and no civil liberties. You think it’s culture that allowed them to force everyone inside. Jesus

Dude, im not saying their government is a thing of beauty. Its an awful way to live life, BUT they are absolutely a culture that operates under more of a we concept. Whether by force or voluntarily.

Freak out a little more.
 
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That sounds great to me, but can we just do a country wide freakin full, mandated shut down until then? My step sister in GA says people are still going out to eat and going to movie theaters. Why are some people on lock down responsibly while others are out doing what ever the hell they want. The way China and SK got ahead of it was full shutdown.
I really don't know and I don't think anyone really does honestly as this has never been done. Doctor Birk did say in some areas it's not as bad or as a big of threat as say in NYC and heavy populated areas. What worked for China may not necessarily work for us and I doubt we know the whole truth there with China.

It's really up to the Governor's and local Community to police those instances like you stated in Georgia. Gatlingburg/Pigeon Forge just now shut down this week and was open until Sunday evening. So some communities are slowly but surely doing it.

Ultimately I guess it will run it's course through our population but not until 2021-2022 and by then will most likely be a vaccine or pill for it. I assume we are going to try and isolate as much now for the next 14 days to help slow it down but as the CDC is now stating it's not as deadly as once thought.
 
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this might be the stupidest post I’ve seen. China is a we country? They live under a dictatorship with the threat of death and no civil liberties. You think it’s culture that allowed them to force everyone inside. Jesus
many asian countries are that way. it's a mentality that just does not happen much in the US.
 
I have a feeling almost all places will close schools for the rest of the year. Even after business reopens.

Why do you think that? That would ultimately be worse for everyone. Essentially starting summer early, encouraging travel, encouraging more hosts.

If thats the case do not start the economy back up then.
 
Difference in our society vs. Chinese society. We are a me culture in the USA. They are a we culture. Nothing we can ever do about that. Its sad, but its the truth

Well that and if you disobey Chinese authorities you might not ever be seen again
 
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many asian countries are that way. it's a mentality that just does not happen much in the US.

Yes, this is the way i should have said it.

Communism is freaking horrible. Anyone thinking I am taking up for that form of government you got the wrong idea. I just blasted Cuba this morning.
 
I think this is a bad idea. We are going to see the curve level off and then spike back up again.

I hope someone bumps this post in a month and tells me I'm an idiot (or you can just tell me now).
You are probably right but where is the fine line with the shutdown?

You don't want to totally kill our Country's economy and send us into a Depression either.
 
Trump just announced with the backing of Dr. Birk and CDC.

Target date is by Easter to resume Business and get back to work, open things back up.

CDC confirming now that although Covid-19 is highly contagious, it's not as deadly as once thought of.

Please kill the ridiculous legislation for the Stimulus package or at least reduce it now.

That is the plan, hope it sticks.

Oh, and wash your hands.
Trump is forcing the Dems in congress to pass a stimulus package of some kind before he opens country back up and the political moment is lost. op piece.
 
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That sounds great to me, but can we just do a country wide freakin full, mandated shut down until then? My step sister in GA says people are still going out to eat and going to movie theaters. Why are some people on lock down responsibly while others are out doing what ever the hell they want. The way China and SK got ahead of it was full shutdown.


This is where he should have stressed rigid compliance so we can get back to normal by Easter .
 
You are probably right but where is the fine line with the shutdown?

You don't want to totally kill our Country's economy and send us into a Depression either.
My fear is that both the economy is crippled AND hundreds of thousands die. If we start seeing outbreaks again after a lull, we'll be right back shutting things down.

We've got to break the cycle.
 
he is actually right. Now, it might be the many years of living under a brutal communist dictatorship that made them that way, but they are most definitely more concerned with the collective than we are.

Most of America already lives in isolation. We live with our family in a house. Drive a car to work. Hand sanitizer everywhere.

Really easy to avoid people for the most part. You don't even have to walk in grocery stores. You just pick it up curbside.

We've got a lot going for us compared to most cultures to avoid major viral spreads without even taking precautions. (Not saying we shouldn't take them)
 
That sounds great to me, but can we just do a country wide freakin full, mandated shut down until then? My step sister in GA says people are still going out to eat and going to movie theaters. Why are some people on lock down responsibly while others are out doing what ever the hell they want. The way China and SK got ahead of it was full shutdown.

How do you plan to do that? Nobody living in NYC has the space to have enough resources to not venture out until Easter. Most folks in NYC have to go to the store every day. Do you enforce a national shut down with the National Guard? Do we have enough to enforce it in every town in the country? Does the police bring you your supplies like China under the threat of death if you venture out? So in other words no. We can't do a country wide freakin full mandated shutdown.

Since I happen to be in Georgia, I can 100% tell you that your step sister is either being intentionally wrong, or doesn't live anywhere near a populated area. Theaters and restaurants have been either shut down, or take out only for about a week in almost all the populated areas like Atlanta. Local ordinances allowed for certain variation for smaller/counter only/outside seating restaurants. The governor clarified earlier mandates yesterday, but practically nothing changed. Except now you can do take out beer! People are largely going about their normal outdoor lives, but by definition that is social distancing.
 
I have a feeling almost all places will close schools for the rest of the year. Even after business reopens.

I agree with this. I think a lot of local communities are counting on the schools being closed to make their budgets after having no tax revenue for 6-8 weeks.
 
I agree with this. I think a lot of local communities are counting on the schools being closed to make their budgets after having no tax revenue for 6-8 weeks.

Where is the savings going to come from as a result of the schools closing? Teachers are still being paid as are administrators. Or at least they are still working. Cafeteria staff are still preparing lunches for delivery. Obviously some things are "savings" - power, etc - but it won't be huge.
 
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How do you plan to do that? Nobody living in NYC has the space to have enough resources to not venture out until Easter. Most folks in NYC have to go to the store every day. Do you enforce a national shut down with the National Guard? Do we have enough to enforce it in every town in the country? Does the police bring you your supplies like China under the threat of death if you venture out? So in other words no. We can't do a country wide freakin full mandated shutdown.

Since I happen to be in Georgia, I can 100% tell you that your step sister is either being intentionally wrong, or doesn't live anywhere near a populated area. Theaters and restaurants have been either shut down, or take out only for about a week in almost all the populated areas like Atlanta. Local ordinances allowed for certain variation for smaller/counter only/outside seating restaurants. The governor clarified earlier mandates yesterday, but practically nothing changed. Except now you can do take out beer! People are largely going about their normal outdoor lives, but by definition that is social distancing.

South Carolina - at least in my area - has all restaurants at 100% carry out. I do wonder if there will be a shortage of carryout containers at some point. But that's a first-world problem.
 
Trump just announced with the backing of Dr. Birk and CDC.

Target date is by Easter to resume Business and get back to work, open things back up.

CDC confirming now that although Covid-19 is highly contagious, it's not as deadly as once thought of.

Please kill the ridiculous legislation for the Stimulus package or at least reduce it now.

That is the plan, hope it sticks.

Oh, and wash your hands.

Heard Fauci/Surgeon General say the other day if we can keep US death percentages in line with South Korea that would play a factor in loosening up some of the restrictions .
 
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The virus won't have stopped communicating to others by Easter Sunday. New cases won't be zero, and likely wouldn't be zero even on into summer, with or without a shutdown. People are not going to continue to stop living here in Summer after already being cooped up all winter. Its not happening.

We're going to deal with this the rest of the year. Trumps choice is a catch-22. He can't make us stay home and people wont anyway once bills mount up with no income, and he's not going to pay your salary and pay to keep businesses afloat either until this virus disappears.
 
How do you plan to do that? Nobody living in NYC has the space to have enough resources to not venture out until Easter. Most folks in NYC have to go to the store every day. Do you enforce a national shut down with the National Guard? Do we have enough to enforce it in every town in the country? Does the police bring you your supplies like China under the threat of death if you venture out? So in other words no. We can't do a country wide freakin full mandated shutdown.

Since I happen to be in Georgia, I can 100% tell you that your step sister is either being intentionally wrong, or doesn't live anywhere near a populated area. Theaters and restaurants have been either shut down, or take out only for about a week in almost all the populated areas like Atlanta. Local ordinances allowed for certain variation for smaller/counter only/outside seating restaurants. The governor clarified earlier mandates yesterday, but practically nothing changed. Except now you can do take out beer! People are largely going about their normal outdoor lives, but by definition that is social distancing.

She is being 100% intentionally wrong? What does that even mean?

Friday night she went to a pizza place in peachtree corners, ga to get a take out pizza. The place was packed inside and out with diners. People shaking hands, hugging. The word got out and many people took to social media for the pizza place and shamed them into shutting down for take out only the next day. The governor needs to mandate that places be closed (as many towns in GA are already doing).

NYC is in shelter in place by the way. You can still go to the store.
 
Trump just announced with the backing of Dr. Birk and CDC.

Target date is by Easter to resume Business and get back to work, open things back up.

CDC confirming now that although Covid-19 is highly contagious, it's not as deadly as once thought of.

Please kill the ridiculous legislation for the Stimulus package or at least reduce it now.

That is the plan, hope it sticks.

Oh, and wash your hands.

Can you please provide a link? Just would like to read this? I know Trump said he wants the business back up by Easter, but do not see anything about the CDC saying it is not a deadly. Not saying you are incorrect.
 
I tend to think he's just getting the convo going about getting things back to normal asap to stop some of the panic and worry. Hell, maybe even his own panic and worry.

I have heard/read/talked to bunches of people who are totally consumed by this. They have visions of the entire country sick or dead. No schools. No football. NO LIFE. I personally think those people need to hear that the "end" is within sight, whether true or not.

This is not pro- or anti-Trump. Just my take on his latest comments.
 
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You are probably right but where is the fine line with the shutdown?

You don't want to totally kill our Country's economy and send us into a Depression either.

The fine line is when the cases and deaths start to ease.

What this sounds like to me is money and the economy is more important than lives. I'd love to be proven wrong, but that's what it sounds like to me. If you have to go into massive debt and a brief recession to save hundreds of thousands of lives, don't you do it?

--Mr. DT
 
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I agree with this. I think a lot of local communities are counting on the schools being closed to make their budgets after having no tax revenue for 6-8 weeks.

how does this save money? they are still paying the teachers and administrators. might be saving some money on fuel for school buses, lower utility bills for school buildings, but payroll is the major expense.
 
Just because Donald Trump is targeting Easter to open up the economy doesn't make it so. If pigs had wings they would fly. No responsible governor, eyeing statistics showing an increase in people getting the virus and rising number of deaths, is going to reopen their states for business, for schools, for churches, etc.

Donald Trump will have egg on his face one of two ways:

1) he will reluctantly take the advice of educated medical professionals and give up on the idea of reopening the country on April 12; or
2) he will reopen and watch as scores more people become infected and die.
 
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