Sure. But Waymo exists and is currently functioning. People are hailing a taxi with no one inside of it and being taken to their destination.
I believe you that Tesla is better. I still don't know what we're actually arguing about lol
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I believe you that Tesla is better. I still don't know what we're actually arguing about lol
Tesla is in last place amongst the 9 total companies doing robotaxies. Tesla sales are plummeting.
It's a cult at this point.
Sales are plummeting ..... Had record sales in china last week.
You have no clue what you are talking about.
Is the Tesla FSD a separate stock or wrapped into the Tesla stock?
If you are arguing for the china consumer while your leader is. Inacting tariffs on china, I think you missed the mark.
Musk is about to step down after he loses Wisconsin
Let it be known that Yes this was a referendum on Elon!
All the kings ransom
And all the kings yen
Couldn't sway the voters in Wiscons-in 😛
Susan Crawford wins Wisconsin Supreme Court race, defying Elon Musk
Liberals will maintain their narrow majority on the court after Crawford’s victory in the first battleground state election of Trump’s second term.
www.nbcnews.com
All the kings ransom
And all the kings yen
Couldn't sway the voters in Wiscons-in 😛
Bro you wouldn't have touched Tesla when I bought it. I earned 1000%. Please just stop trying to lecture me on bs. He's lost the plot and full of ketamine.
“I’m honestly shocked. I thought we had it in the bag,” said Pam Van Handel, chair of the Republican Party of Wisconsin’s Outagamie County. “I thought [Musk] was going to be an asset for this race. People love Trump, but maybe they don’t love everybody he supports. Maybe I have blinders on.”
LOL
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I have no idea what im talking about.🤡
Did you see what happened yesterday when that was released? The stock went from $270 to $255. But at the end of the day it was trading $287.
How could that be? Because the lower auto sales was more than offset by their energy storage business. They crushed the energy storage and thus the stock made a u turn and rammed higher on energy and the fact that Elon will be wrapping up his work at Doge in a month or two.
Things look great for Tesla. It will be volatile, but long term i'm very optimistic.
they delivered 335k cars in the first quarter and are predicted to deliver about 440k or so in the second quarter.
Demand was hurt by the sentiment, but i don't think it will last. Stock has tremendous upside despite the crazy left.
Obama gave out 2.4 billion in loans to EV companies, including 465 million dollars to Tesla.
While every one of them folded, filed bankruptcy and robbed the taxpayer of the money, Elon Musk paid back the 465 million dollar government loan early, including the 20 million dollar interest payment.
I am sure that everyone still believes that Trump is enriching the rich and establishing an oligarchy as his policies have drained $7T from wall street. That used to be the battle cry of democrats along with Trump only caring for Wall Street, not the middle class. If this Tariff thing works and brings thousands of jobs to construct factories and industries for the middle class, will the nay sayers even give him an ounce of credit?
I do. Just look at 2008 financial crisis. The outcome of that calamity was the super rich got richer because they were able to buy assets at firesale prices.
You cannot have it both ways. If the market tanks, EVERYONE can buy at firesale prices and it may even make it more likely that folks who couldn't afford to risk some money in the stock market could. 88% of stocks are owned by the top 10% and they are getting HAMMERED. Elon, who many claim is enriching himself, is getting HAMMERED by Tesla rioting and loss of value of not only Tesla, but all of his companies.
My point was that there is this ongoing conversation that Trump is pushing an oligarchy and only enriching the rich. If that were the case, the above would NOT be happening. I don't know if this tariff thing will work, but I just find it hard to believe that folks will not at least give Trump and OUNCE of credit for trying to protect the interest of the US while also bringing back jobs to America. He is not doing this with deficit spending (see Biden's build back better, or inflation reduction spending), but by repatriating lost manufacturing and encouraging investment in the US. I get that it is hard for those on the left to even give him a chance, but these efforts ( I will call them efforts, because success is TBD) seem to have the middle class firmly in mind.
I could be wrong, but that is how I see it. If this all fails, I will be the first to HAMMER Trump as I want to retire in 2+ years and he may destroy that.
I will also give some examples of how I was wrong in the past. With Clinton.....I thought he SUCKED big time, but in hindsight, what he did balancing the budget, reducing employment benefits, reducing the size of the federal government are ALL things I can agree with. With Obama, I hated Obamacare.....but at least he tried. Something most Presidents cannot even fathom tackling. Again in hindsight, I give him credit for trying and also for pushing the too big to fail bailouts. I hated those at the time too, but can now see where it was probably the right call.
Post more. We need some real discussions on both sides of these issues.
I don't totally disagree with the isldead of balancing trade, and tariffs aren't awful when used well. My concerns are that this White House seems to have no real strategy and the messaging is awful.
Are we using tariffs to make money on the inflow of revenue? If so, then putting them on then removing them makes that useless.
Are we using tariffs to make other countries bargain? Then fine, but these tariffs, are(stolen from Jon Stewartl like a terrorist shooting the hostages and then trying to negotiate.
I just don't trust that Trump has a clue what he's doing, his business acumen is wildly overinflated. It's also alarming when they literally did the math wrong on the tariffs as the authors of the plan have state multiple times.
EVERYONE cannot buy at firesale prices. Only those with liquid may chose to do so. 2008 caused a spiral of lost jobs and depressed wages. If you pay attention the rich collected more wealth due to the event, and the rest of the 99% of Americans decreased their wealth.
Clinton did some good things but signing nafta was extremely bad. Most of the good stuff he did was out of desperation to win a 2nd term after he was routed in the mid terms when the repubs led by newt gingrich took the house.
