JFK files dropping tomorrow morning. I bet the Epstein files won’t be far behind. The People are demanding it.
Epstein??
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Seems like Oswald was a Soviet sympathizer. CIA was tracking him on his Mexico trip where he visited a bunch of commies and bragged about wanting to kill Kennedy.
Mafia and the CIA were likely pissed at Kennedy. Kennedy failed to deliver Cuba with the bay of pigs fiasco. The Mafia was pissed about that, then the Kennedy's went after Hoffa, that pissed them all off even more. Kennedy was very aware of how much power and international influence t he CIA had and he definitely criticized them, a lot. Lots of motivations all over the place, no actual factual documentation released that changes any narratives.
Just curious, you aren't suggesting the same will happen in the Epstein case? Just asking because this is the Epstein thread.
The government, unequivocally, knows who Ghislaine trafficked those girls to.
Based on what? Honest question since I really don't know. You stating that the Government unequivocally knows seems like a stretch.
1) Common sense - If you prosecute someone for trafficking women, then logically those women were trafficked to someone.
2) The women's testimony. Listen to their words.
3) The pictures of FBI agents carrying multiple boxes of electronic equipment and VHS video tapes out of his sex dungeon building on Little St James Island.
4) The testimony of the woman saying she saw the room with the video surveillance equipment.
5) Understand the tools the NSA has. They know everything.
I don't think there is anyway to conclude the investigators didn't know who the men customers were. They prosecuted a women and sent her to jail for life. Who were the customers?
What you 'know' and what you can prove in federal court are two different things. Thats how the justice system works.
I don't think the JFK files released were anything ground breaking, I think the Epstein files will be the same. The CIA didn't release its transcripts from its first discussion with new President Lyndon Johnson for example. Why did Johnson keep the same Cia director? Why was the Warren commission allowed to conclude only one gunman, based on single bullet/magic bullet BS theory. Its ridiculous. Everyone should at this point understand there was not a single gunman, physics wont allow for it
Anyway, the CIA is still not sharing all their documents. Which is ofcourse, not surprising.
I 100% believe the CIA is hiding embarrassing facts in the JFK and Epstein cases. Epstein was 100% a CIA asset.
I just think it's a huge stretch to claim that they unequivocally know stuff based on you seeing boxes leave the building.
I have no issue with all of it coming out. Anyone who did illegal shit should go down for it. I just want to reserve judgement until we have actual proof. My best guess is that you will end up with a bunch of lists of attendees, some sketchy emails, and probably not much else. I doubt people were sending texts saying, " I only want 12 year olds for sex, get those ready for me"
Unfortunately the CIA has had to "lie down with dogs" for many years to get inside criminal organizations world wide. They are gonna get fleas sometimes.
It's kind of the universal challenge of law enforcement. You use lower level thugs and informants to take down bigger fish. They have to make a judgement of whether letting this low level dude get away with stuff to take out a high level criminal is worth it. They get it wrong sometimes.
If it was just the boxes in isolation, i would agree with your assessment. But we have a lot more information than that. We can't just ignore it. The women said they were trafficked. They named names. Prince Andrew for one. Prince Andrew settled a lawsuit i believe?
The one woman testified that she saw the surveillance room with cameras placed on the beds. She described it vividly.
The NSA has all text messages. They probably have all phone conversations. They have all bank records. It's not like the people at the time thought they were going to get caught and were covering their tracks. They believed they were untouchable because they were intellgience. Either domestic or mosaad.
And no, i don't think that there is a specific text saying "give me a 12 year old". No one is that naive. You know how honeytraps work. You know how the feds work (if you don't read up on it). The entrapped person is usually in way tooo deep even before even realize they are a target.
It was an operation that should have never been run.
Let me ask this separate from Epstein.
If you believed that you could save 1000s of lives by letting a scumbag get caught by endangering one person would you do it?
So many criminals have been taken off the street due to being caught committing crimes other than their primary activities, Capone for Tax evasion as an example.
Not at all condoning Epstein, but im really glad that I don't have to decide between which terrible people I have to work with daily. I try to give a little bit of grace to those that do.
Yah they sure do get it wrong sometimes.
Like when they imported cocaine to the US to fund illegal wars. LIterally killing its citizens to kill other citizens in other countries... creating a drug epidemic which the government then passed laws to prosecute its citizens for in brutal fashion, while privatizing the prison systems so corporations could get rich off the situation that they themselves created.
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