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If you believe David Pecker, a former close friend and associate of the Orange One you have learned that the term fake news was indeed invented by the one that accuses the mainstream media of engaging in. Pecker agreed to be the eyes and ears of the Trump campaign. As such, he bought and buried stories which were adverse to the Orange One and he allowed Trump to feed him stories which he embellished and published. Ted Cruz's father being connected to Lee Harvey Oswald is the example about which he testified. Now, on the off chance this testimony is untrue, all Trump has to do is to be placed under oath, and tell the court that it is a damn lie. Normally the reason a criminal defendant does not testify is to prevent the prosecutor from introducing all of the defendant's criminal convictions. As yet Trump has no prior criminal convictions. I will bet Tiger Growls and every other card carrying member of the cult any amount they wish that Trump will not testify. Not because of prior convictions but because he will get caught in one lie after another and would likely leave court being charged with perjury.
 
Is there a crime somewhere in there?
No way I would get on the stand if I were trump. No reason to. He is going to be convicted no matter what the "evidence" says. This trial is a sham according to even democrat lawyers. It will obviously be overturned on appeal, but the dems don't care about that even though they know it's true.
I wish there was someone besides trump/biden would be our next potus, but if trump somehow wins, I hope he gets the doj to prosecute joe for election interference. Let's see how many dems support that.
 
Is there a crime somewhere in there?
No way I would get on the stand if I were trump. No reason to. He is going to be convicted no matter what the "evidence" says. This trial is a sham according to even democrat lawyers. It will obviously be overturned on appeal, but the dems don't care about that even though they know it's true.
I wish there was someone besides trump/biden would be our next potus, but if trump somehow wins, I hope he gets the doj to prosecute joe for election interference. Let's see how many dems support that.
You continue to show you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

There is zero evidence that Joe Biden is involved with an independently elected state prosecutor who has nothing to do with Biden, the Justice Dept or the federal government. In fact, even If Trump were convicted, Biden couldn't even pardon him because it is wholly separate in every way.

Yet you readily accept the bellicose bloviating from the biggest liar in American history just because he says so. In addition, you want the criminal charged with 88 felonies to get away with his crimes so he can fraudulently prosecute a man that has nothing to do with the crimes he committed. And whether you like it or not, they are crimes.

That doesn't mean he will be found guilty because it's a high bar to prove he committed a crime in order to conceal another crime, even though we all know that's exactly what he did. And don't even try to suggest that the evidence won't show that.

As usual, you'll jump through multiple illogical hoops to try and absolve the man "you don't like" because you want him to found innocent of all the charges against him. It's pathetic how readily you will dismiss all of Trump's crimes, some that we've seen with our own eyes, while you glibly accuse Biden of crimes that you have no evidence to support. You're a fraud...
 
As per always, whatever Trump is accusing someone or some institution of, he's actually doing it himself. That's as safe a bet as there has ever been.
 
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If you believe David Pecker, a former close friend and associate of the Orange One you have learned that the term fake news was indeed invented by the one that accuses the mainstream media of engaging in. Pecker agreed to be the eyes and ears of the Trump campaign. As such, he bought and buried stories which were adverse to the Orange One and he allowed Trump to feed him stories which he embellished and published. Ted Cruz's father being connected to Lee Harvey Oswald is the example about which he testified. Now, on the off chance this testimony is untrue, all Trump has to do is to be placed under oath, and tell the court that it is a damn lie. Normally the reason a criminal defendant does not testify is to prevent the prosecutor from introducing all of the defendant's criminal convictions. As yet Trump has no prior criminal convictions. I will bet Tiger Growls and every other card carrying member of the cult any amount they wish that Trump will not testify. Not because of prior convictions but because he will get caught in one lie after another and would likely leave court being charged with perjury.
I know the left just wants Trump to be killed or die in jail. But even old Trump should get a fair trial. And even old Trump doesn't have to prove he is innocent, they have to prove he is guilty.
 
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I know the left just wants Trump to be killed or die in jail. But even old Trump should get a fair trial. And even old Trump doesn't have to prove he is innocent, they have to prove he is guilty.
Of course he should get a fair trial and that's exactly what he's getting - despite your cries about him not getting a fair trial in New York, that's just too bad - don't commit crimes in NY if you don't want to be tried there.

And remember that both lawyer teams got to pick who would be on the jury and you can be sure that Trump's lawyers made sure there were some that were favorable to him, and it only takes one of those jurists to find him not guilty.

Why are you only focused on wanting him to get off scot-free while never acknowledging that he's been charged with 88 felonies and you know he's guilty of most of them? Sounds like you're the one who doesn't want a fair outcome.
 
You continue to show you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

There is zero evidence that Joe Biden is involved with an independently elected state prosecutor who has nothing to do with Biden, the Justice Dept or the federal government. In fact, even If Trump were convicted, Biden couldn't even pardon him because it is wholly separate in every way.

Yet you readily accept the bellicose bloviating from the biggest liar in American history just because he says so. In addition, you want the criminal charged with 88 felonies to get away with his crimes so he can fraudulently prosecute a man that has nothing to do with the crimes he committed. And whether you like it or not, they are crimes.

That doesn't mean he will be found guilty because it's a high bar to prove he committed a crime in order to conceal another crime, even though we all know that's exactly what he did. And don't even try to suggest that the evidence won't show that.

As usual, you'll jump through multiple illogical hoops to try and absolve the man "you don't like" because you want him to found innocent of all the charges against him. It's pathetic how readily you will dismiss all of Trump's crimes, some that we've seen with our own eyes, while you glibly accuse Biden of crimes that you have no evidence to support. You're a fraud...
I want Trump acquitted in this case because this is prosecutorial misconduct and politically motived prosecution that would never be allowed if the last name of the defendant wasn't trump.

If you don't think the Bragg is going after trump bc of his political party, you are overtly dishonest. He previously stated he would find a crime to prosecute trump with and this sham is the best he could do. Also, if you think Biden is not on board with this you're an idiot. I can promise you if the Biden admin told them to stop, they would.

No matter what trump did with respect to the porn star, it had nothing to do with election interference - which is the entire basis and justification of their case. However, if you, Biden, and the dem party are willing to stand by and accept that false narrative, then Biden deserves to be charged with the same crime. His attempts to discredit the hunter laptop story DURING AN ELECTION DEBATE, using false statements from elected and appointed officials is way beyond trump using a legal nda with a porn star as it pertains to election interference.

As I stated before, multiple DEMOCRAT high level lawyers have commented on what a disgrace and sham this trial is and all agree it would almost certainly be overturned on appeal when he is convicted by a biased jury not of his peers.

You and Trump are two sides of the same shitty coin. Neither one cares how they get what they want as long as they get it.
 
I want Trump acquitted in this case because this is prosecutorial misconduct and politically motived prosecution that would never be allowed if the last name of the defendant wasn't trump.

If you don't think the Bragg is going after trump bc of his political party, you are overtly dishonest. He previously stated he would find a crime to prosecute trump with and this sham is the best he could do. Also, if you think Biden is not on board with this you're an idiot. I can promise you if the Biden admin told them to stop, they would.

No matter what trump did with respect to the porn star, it had nothing to do with election interference - which is the entire basis and justification of their case. However, if you, Biden, and the dem party are willing to stand by and accept that false narrative, then Biden deserves to be charged with the same crime. His attempts to discredit the hunter laptop story DURING AN ELECTION DEBATE, using false statements from elected and appointed officials is way beyond trump using a legal nda with a porn star as it pertains to election interference.

As I stated before, multiple DEMOCRAT high level lawyers have commented on what a disgrace and sham this trial is and all agree it would almost certainly be overturned on appeal when he is convicted by a biased jury not of his peers.

You and Trump are two sides of the same shitty coin. Neither one cares how they get what they want as long as they get it.
This isn't the trial I wanted to come first because I agree it has the appearance of partisanship but on the other hand, because this was a Presidential candidate and not an ordinary Joe, that's precisely the reason it did require a closer look.

Are you telling me he didn't pay off McDougal and Stormy for political reasons? Because if you are, I'm calling you a liar. This man would not have been elected had this come out beforehand and you know it, but because he paid the hush money, our country has gone through eight years of absolute chaos. And let it be said that Hillary didn't get the opportunity to pay off Comey before he reopened her email investigation right before the election. Prior to that, all the polls showed her winning and she would have if not for Trump's crimes. That's a big fvckin deal.

And spare me your lame false equivalency story about a laptop that didn't have a single shred of evidence that pointed to Joe commiting a crime, not a shred. If you think that Twitter preventing that story from being shared for a couple days was responsible for Trump's loss then he never deserved to win in the first place - that's a fable for losers.

And again, you have zero evidence that Joe was involved in that investigation and that means he was hands off because that's the way it's supposed to be - he didn't tell Bragg to push it or pull it because that's not his job. I know who would have meddled in investigations of their political opponent and you do too - Trump! He was even impeached for it so cry me a river about your imaginary Joe crimes that you want him prosecuted for. If you want it for Joe, you damn sure should want it for Trump - unless you're full of shit.
 
This isn't the trial I wanted to come first because I agree it has the appearance of partisanship but on the other hand, because this was a Presidential candidate and not an ordinary Joe, that's precisely the reason it did require a closer look.

Are you telling me he didn't pay off McDougal and Stormy for political reasons? Because if you are, I'm calling you a liar. This man would not have been elected had this come out beforehand and you know it, but because he paid the hush money, our country has gone through eight years of absolute chaos. And let it be said that Hillary didn't get the opportunity to pay off Comey before he reopened her email investigation right before the election. Prior to that, all the polls showed her winning and she would have if not for Trump's crimes. That's a big fvckin deal.

And spare me your lame false equivalency story about a laptop that didn't have a single shred of evidence that pointed to Joe commiting a crime, not a shred. If you think that Twitter preventing that story from being shared for a couple days was responsible for Trump's loss then he never deserved to win in the first place - that's a fable for losers.

And again, you have zero evidence that Joe was involved in that investigation and that means he was hands off because that's the way it's supposed to be - he didn't tell Bragg to push it or pull it because that's not his job. I know who would have meddled in investigations of their political opponent and you do too - Trump! He was even impeached for it so cry me a river about your imaginary Joe crimes that you want him prosecuted for. If you want it for Joe, you damn sure should want it for Trump - unless you're full of shit.
There is nothing illegal about paying someone to sign an nda. It happens all the time. Of course he did it bc he didn't want her talk, why else do you get people to sign nds'a? However, that is is no way election interference. Not even close. Doing something for political reasons is not a crime in and of itself. LOL at the appearance of partisanship. It is completely partisan.

Bragg said years ago he would find a crime to charge trump with. The refusal to change venues from a place where trump is clearly hated by the vast majority where you know you are seating biased jurors. The made up election interference nonsense just to be able to try him. Any one of these things should cause this case to be thrown out. The preponderance of all of it is overwhelming.

Also, who out there thought Trump was some kind of saint and husband of the year before hand? Did you? Has it hurt his polling or chances of winning again that he was unfaithful to his wife? No.

Also, I'm not saying what Joe did when he lied about the laptop was what won the election. I'm not even advocating it was even election interference. BUT, if trump having a porn star sign an nda is election interference, then what Joe did is absolutely beyond that. The FBI knew the laptop was real at that point and so did Joe.

LOL if you think Hilary would have won without comer. that election wasn't as close as 2020.

Again, you are just completely dishonest. I have not heard one attorney say the case being presented is credible. Everyone I have heard give an opinion thinks it is highly suspect. When highly respected dem layers are telling you the case is a sham, you should listen.

But like I said, you are just like trump. You don't care if it's right or wrong, you just want what you want.

As for trumps impeachments, he was acquitted of both.
 
There is nothing illegal about paying someone to sign an nda. It happens all the time. Of course he did it bc he didn't want her talk, why else do you get people to sign nds'a? However, that is is no way election interference. Not even close. Doing something for political reasons is not a crime in and of itself. LOL at the appearance of partisanship. It is completely partisan.

Bragg said years ago he would find a crime to charge trump with. The refusal to change venues from a place where trump is clearly hated by the vast majority where you know you are seating biased jurors. The made up election interference nonsense just to be able to try him. Any one of these things should cause this case to be thrown out. The preponderance of all of it is overwhelming.

Also, who out there thought Trump was some kind of saint and husband of the year before hand? Did you? Has it hurt his polling or chances of winning again that he was unfaithful to his wife? No.

Also, I'm not saying what Joe did when he lied about the laptop was what won the election. I'm not even advocating it was even election interference. BUT, if trump having a porn star sign an nda is election interference, then what Joe did is absolutely beyond that. The FBI knew the laptop was real at that point and so did Joe.

LOL if you think Hilary would have won without comer. that election wasn't as close as 2020.

Again, you are just completely dishonest. I have not heard one attorney say the case being presented is credible. Everyone I have heard give an opinion thinks it is highly suspect. When highly respected dem layers are telling you the case is a sham, you should listen.

But like I said, you are just like trump. You don't care if it's right or wrong, you just want what you want.

As for trumps impeachments, he was acquitted of both.
😂 JC on a trike, you are Hopeless!
 
I know the left just wants Trump to be killed or die in jail. But even old Trump should get a fair trial. And even old Trump doesn't have to prove he is innocent, they have to prove he is guilty.
And that's what's happening here. A state level prosecutor accused him and brought the case before a Grand Jury. They indicted him. Now there's a judge and another jury that is going to conduct the trial. Both sides get to help choose the jury. IF Trump is convicted, he gets to appeal just like anyone else. All on the up and up. System working as intended.
 
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