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Amen I agree 100%. From Franklin Graham below

Secularists and those on the left don’t want you to mention Jesus Christ, whether you’re a football coach like Dabo Swinney or you serve in Congress or you bake cakes in your hometown. They don’t want you to express your Christian faith. Coach Swinney is right—he said, “So many people, today, they are afraid of criticism. They are afraid of not being politically correct, or whatever it may be. There’s a lot of hostility toward Christianity today.” Swinney said. “I always tell people, the hope of the world, it’s not in politics, it’s not in a new President, it’s not in a stimulus package. It’s not in anything. The hope of the world is Jesus.” Amen Dabo. Thank you for your bold stand and for having guts for Jesus!

https://www.postandcourier.com/spor...cle_c7eb4d7e-8fc8-11ea-a50a-f789809c2d55.html

Clemson’s Dabo rebukes critics: ‘They want me to just shut that off and not be a Christian’

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Clemson coach Dabo Swinney was a special guest on Wednesday evening’s FCA video call. File/Gwinn Davis/Special to The Post and Courier




CLEMSON — Coach Dabo Swinney on Wednesday night pushed back against critics who question the role Christianity plays in the Clemson football program.

In April 2014 the Freedom from Religion group filed a complaint to Clemson, claiming Swinney and his staff had engaged in “unconstitutional behavior” for not creating a clear separation between church and state at the public university.

“I always tell everybody, my job is not to save ’em. My job is to win football games,” Swinney said during an FCA video call Wednesday. “I’ve come under fire many times from different organizations and things like that because of my faith. They want me to just shut that off and not be a Christian.

“But God says in Ecclesiastes 3:23, whatever you do, you do it with all your heart as if you’re working for the Lord.”

Swinney was joined on the video call by his wife, Kathleen. The HUDDLE UP! conference was hosted by former NFL tight end Benjamin Watson and his wife, Kirsten. Hall of Fame coach Tony Dungy also participated in the call, which was streamed live on YouTube.

Swinney started at Clemson in 2003 as wide receivers coach, before taking over as head coach in 2008. His predecessor, Tommy Bowden, was also open about his faith and attracted similar criticism.

On Wednesday, Swinney pushed back on “myths” about him, including that he requires players to attend church on a mandatory basis. But he did say he feels responsible to serve the “hearts and souls” of his players.

“If I get a young man that comes to Clemson and he’s strong in his faith, and he leaves Clemson and I didn’t help him grow stronger, shame on me,” he said. “If I get a young man that comes to Clemson, and he doesn’t know anything, or he’s searching, and I don’t cultivate that. ... Shame on me.

Swinney noted he tries to be transparent during the recruiting process so as to establish connections with players and their families. In December, 13 Clemson players told The Post and Courier that Swinney’s public displays of faith played a significant role in their college decision.

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How Dabo Swinney’s Christian evangelism boosts Clemson recruiting

Swinney also said it’s important for him to be “bold.”

“So many people, today, they are afraid of criticism. They are afraid of not being politically correct, or whatever it may be. There’s a lot of hostility toward Christianity today,” Swinney said. “I always tell people, the hope of the world, it’s not in politics, it’s not in a new President, it’s not in a stimulus package. It’s not in anything.

“The hope of the world is Jesus.”
 
On Wednesday, Swinney pushed back on ““If I get a young man that comes to Clemson and he’s strong in his faith, and he leaves Clemson and I didn’t help him grow stronger, shame on me,” he said. “If I get a young man that comes to Clemson, and he doesn’t know anything, or he’s searching, and I don’t cultivate that. ... Shame on me
So he uses his position of authority to proselytize players. Awful.
 
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I don't have the same religious beliefs as Dabo necessarily, but I truly admire his faith and his willingness to share his beliefs publicly. He is his own man and is not afraid to be himself more than anyone else I can think of. I really wish I believed in something as much as Dabo believes in Christ.
 
I don't care one iota about Dabo's religious beliefs. I like that he cares for his players, teachers them to be good men, and wins games. If his faith helps with that, fantastic.

High school recruits can choose any coach they have an offer from. They can transfer, now increasingly without penalty. Unless a coach is tying playing time or benefits to religious beliefs, I just don't get the issue.

This is college. There are no truancy laws. This is not a captive audience.
 
Amen I agree 100%. From Franklin Graham below

Secularists and those on the left don’t want you to mention Jesus Christ, whether you’re a football coach like Dabo Swinney or you serve in Congress or you bake cakes in your hometown. They don’t want you to express your Christian faith. Coach Swinney is right—he said, “So many people, today, they are afraid of criticism. They are afraid of not being politically correct, or whatever it may be. There’s a lot of hostility toward Christianity today.” Swinney said. “I always tell people, the hope of the world, it’s not in politics, it’s not in a new President, it’s not in a stimulus package. It’s not in anything. The hope of the world is Jesus.” Amen Dabo. Thank you for your bold stand and for having guts for Jesus!

https://www.postandcourier.com/spor...cle_c7eb4d7e-8fc8-11ea-a50a-f789809c2d55.html

Clemson’s Dabo rebukes critics: ‘They want me to just shut that off and not be a Christian’

5da21f342aee0.image.jpg

Clemson coach Dabo Swinney was a special guest on Wednesday evening’s FCA video call. File/Gwinn Davis/Special to The Post and Courier




CLEMSON — Coach Dabo Swinney on Wednesday night pushed back against critics who question the role Christianity plays in the Clemson football program.

In April 2014 the Freedom from Religion group filed a complaint to Clemson, claiming Swinney and his staff had engaged in “unconstitutional behavior” for not creating a clear separation between church and state at the public university.

“I always tell everybody, my job is not to save ’em. My job is to win football games,” Swinney said during an FCA video call Wednesday. “I’ve come under fire many times from different organizations and things like that because of my faith. They want me to just shut that off and not be a Christian.

“But God says in Ecclesiastes 3:23, whatever you do, you do it with all your heart as if you’re working for the Lord.”

Swinney was joined on the video call by his wife, Kathleen. The HUDDLE UP! conference was hosted by former NFL tight end Benjamin Watson and his wife, Kirsten. Hall of Fame coach Tony Dungy also participated in the call, which was streamed live on YouTube.

Swinney started at Clemson in 2003 as wide receivers coach, before taking over as head coach in 2008. His predecessor, Tommy Bowden, was also open about his faith and attracted similar criticism.

On Wednesday, Swinney pushed back on “myths” about him, including that he requires players to attend church on a mandatory basis. But he did say he feels responsible to serve the “hearts and souls” of his players.

“If I get a young man that comes to Clemson and he’s strong in his faith, and he leaves Clemson and I didn’t help him grow stronger, shame on me,” he said. “If I get a young man that comes to Clemson, and he doesn’t know anything, or he’s searching, and I don’t cultivate that. ... Shame on me.

Swinney noted he tries to be transparent during the recruiting process so as to establish connections with players and their families. In December, 13 Clemson players told The Post and Courier that Swinney’s public displays of faith played a significant role in their college decision.

CLEMSON
How Dabo Swinney’s Christian evangelism boosts Clemson recruiting

Swinney also said it’s important for him to be “bold.”

“So many people, today, they are afraid of criticism. They are afraid of not being politically correct, or whatever it may be. There’s a lot of hostility toward Christianity today,” Swinney said. “I always tell people, the hope of the world, it’s not in politics, it’s not in a new President, it’s not in a stimulus package. It’s not in anything.

“The hope of the world is Jesus.”
“Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.”
‭‭II Timothy‬ ‭3:12‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://www.bible.com/bible/114/2ti.3.12.nkjv
 
no, he doesn’t allow bullies to silence him while they indoctrinate and bully anyone in their reach. Doubt you let bullies push you around. Dabo shouldn’t either.

“Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.”
‭‭II Timothy‬ ‭3:12‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://www.bible.com/bible/114/2ti.3.12.nkjv

And it's coming faster than it ever has in my opinion.

Must be so hard out there for white male Christians.
 
So he uses his position of authority to proselytize players. Awful.
I am not anyone of note on this board in terms of how things go on in a normal fashion, but I will step forth and say in this particular discussion
that I stand behind Coach Swinney 100 per cent. Your respect for faith is beyond reprehensible. Think maybe you need to move along to
another school that has a coach that fits your life view a little better. There are plenty to choose from. You would be much more comfortable there than in this environment apparently.
 
The bigger point here is for Dabo to make sure he is guiding and not forcing. He is an excellent man and a morally good person; however, it would be easy for some to misconstrue his actions.
 
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Awful? Based on what standard?
The standard that a person in a position of authority over young people should not be attempting to guide those people to a specific religious faith, regardless of what that religion is, particularly when he is a state employee.
 
Not exactly but it’s a bit of a double standard. You can’t be critical of any religion but Christianity seems to be off limits for that exemption.
I, personally, am critical of every religion. But you are correct that there seems to be an aversion to criticizing what amount to minority religions in the US. I think that’s just a liberal, politically correct thing.
 
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as a secularist It doesn't bother me at all that Dabo wants to talk about his faith, or for that matter that anyone wants to. What bothers me is acting like a victim because you know a secularist isn't buying the whole package you are selling.
That said, Dabo is a genuine person. He isn't faking a thing. Franklin Graham though ... yah i don't really dig a lot of what that guy says.
 
The standard that a person in a position of authority over young people should not be attempting to guide those people to a specific religious faith, regardless of what that religion is, particularly when he is a state employee.


You could possibly have a point but Dabo has said and makes sure that every recruit and every family knows where he stands on his beliefs and always follows through.

It's gotta be hard for you to be a fan of someone that believes in God wholeheartedly and you have to believe and cheer for them. Welcome to faith.
 
The standard that a person in a position of authority over young people should not be attempting to guide those people to a specific religious faith, regardless of what that religion is, particularly when he is a state employee.
Agreed, his employer should move to fire him based on these transgressions.
 
The standard that a person in a position of authority over young people should not be attempting to guide those people to a specific religious faith, regardless of what that religion is, particularly when he is a state employee.

Would your standard also discourage a non-religious professor from trying to proselytize students away from their religious beliefs and toward his/her own?
 
So he uses his position of authority to proselytize players. Awful.
Seriously @dbjork6317, just go ahead and let us all in on what exactly Dabo did to you during your “manager” days. My guess is you fvcked around at practice one day and didn’t do what your were supposed to do, so Dabo gets in your shit and you can’t handle it......amirite? Didn’t you send send a text once to dabo talking shit about him but was intended for someone else???? Sounds about right.....fvck ups do what fvck ups do best.....fvck shit up!
 
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