Georgia Gov ups his Corona game...

[Overwatch]

This is also the same dumbass that said back in early April that he had only just learned of asymptomatic spread, even though it was already a well-established fact and one of the reasons for the stay at home orders many other states had issued weeks before.

lol do you just make shit up or what? This is an article from June 9, suggesting the experts still don't know the realities of asymptomatic spreading.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/

"At one of the WHO’s thrice-weekly press briefings Monday, Van Kerkhove noted that when health officials review cases that are initially reported to be asymptomatic, “we find out that many have really mild disease.” There are some infected people who are “truly asymptomatic,” she said, but countries that are doing detailed contact tracing are “not finding secondary transmission onward” from those cases. “It’s very rare,” she said."

 

[Karen50]

Guess the non mask wearers will have to shop elsewhere than Kroger, Walmart, sams, Costco etc.

 

[Overwatch]

There's a reason those silica packets say "do not eat." The same people who need that message are the ones refusing to wear masks. The same dipshits that ate fish tank cleaner after Trump touted hydroxychloroquine.

What? That bitch murdered her husband, plain and simple.

Unless you have other examples of people ingesting fish tank cleaner you are just being disingenuous.

 

[BAnksMcFadden]

Is it unconstitutional though? Is mandating that people have on shirts and shoes to enter establishments unconstitutional? I genuinely don't know bc I don't know the ins and outs of the constitution but curious as to why you think it most definitely is unconstitutional when there are a variety of other laws that mandate what we can and can't do but they are unconstitutional.

What part of the constitution covers mask wearing?

I'm no constitutional lawyer but maybe the 14th. This was a quick skim but it seems to apply

. It also contained three new limits on state power: a state shall not violate a citizen's privileges or immunities; shall not deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; and must guarantee all persons equal protection of the laws.

 

[tigergrad03]

All this does is divide people and create confrontational situations. Leaders should lead.

This year can suck it.

All this does is stop illegal “laws” that don’t hold water. Protecting your rights.

 

[tigergrad03]

Did I say that, or did you infer it? Sure, people are divided by these mandates, but are they issued with the intent to divide? No. They are issued in the best interest of public safety based on the best available data.

A pissing match between elected officials is counterproductive in this moment.

They are issued in the best interest of public safety

Uh no. Try again

 

[tigergrad03]

There isn't any evidence that wearing a mask causes the virus to spread more quickly. And there's lots of evidence suggesting that wearing one limits the spread. Given all the complicated challenges facing us, this one pretty easy. Wear a damned mask if you are around other people.

Wrong.

 

[tigergrad03]

Can someone provide a study that suggests masks are ineffective to reduce transmission? Bc all I’m seeing (CDC, Johns Hopkins, etc) seems to make it pretty clear that yeah, a mask helps.

There’s already one on this board.

 

[tigergrad03]

I personally feel masks should be required because it seems that is what it would take for people to wear them.

I also think the government shouldn't have so many mandates, so I don't disagree with the governor preventing a further reach of mandates. Most headlines ignore that he encouraged masks, just didn't want cities to mandate them.

However, those of you that use this to feel vindicated about not wearing masks and continue to claim they don't work using pseudoscience are despicable.

Wear a damn mask.

Never gonna happen.

 

[bflow22]

I am conservative but this is wrong of him to do.

The way that the US is supposed to work is bottom up where populations govern themselves by electing local representatives and city council members. Same deal with district/state representatives. It allows the population to decide on their own fate by either electing officials who will govern them as they would like or by moving freely to another area where the government is more in line with their views. It's beautiful really.

Most restrictive(least power) - Cities
Less restrictive(less power) - State
Least restrictive(most power) - Fed

 

[Jimmy Greenbeans]

What part of the constitution covers mask wearing?

Agreed. Need to re-watch Hamilton. I missed that line.

The mask controversy is a real headscratcher. I don’t know how effective wearing a mask really is to control spread of the virus, but it couldn’t hurt. And if me wearing a mask helps protect those around me and reduces the risk of any family, friend or stranger I come in contact with, then that’s good enough for me. Whatever puts an end to this shit show the fastest, I’m All In.

 

[BigTimeTiger]

Updated

Sorry I posted wrong picture lol guess I was triggered

30 minutes after walk with mask still on

2 minutes after taking mask off

Sounds like a moot point for you, as it seems like you're already in a high risk category and should stay home.

Mask on restiing for 30 minutes after a 30 minute walk. It’s 88%!! I take mask off and back to nineties in two minutes. I don’t stay home. I’m going about normal life as I’m not worried about the common cold either.

 

[AustinTiger77]

Mask on restiing for 30 minutes after a 30 minute walk. It’s 68%!! I take mask off and back to nineties in two minutes. I don’t stay home I’m going about normal life as I’m not worried about the common cold either.

Hope you get the underlying issue checked out. If you've got something going on that causes that level of diminished function, COVID19 won't merely be a common cold for you.

 

[TigerEE91]

All this bullshit is making it incredibly easy for me to determine where I live during the rest of my life.

 

[PainClinic]

All this does is divide people and create confrontational situations. Leaders should lead.

This year can suck it.

LOL, requiring folks to wear masks divides as well.

 

[clemsontiger02]

Mask on restiing for 30 minutes after a 30 minute walk. It’s 68%!! I take mask off and back to nineties in two minutes. I don’t stay home. I’m going about normal life as I’m not worried about the common cold either. All you want to do is tell me what to do. I’m in the highest risk group and have yet to get sick. I’ve been to church, restaurants, bars, etc. I guess I’m just lucky I haven’t caught the big bad wolf yet. I’m from a large family and still don’t know a Covid-19 person.

The top # is your pulse. It's not a percentage.

The bottom # is your oxygen percentage. 94% is good.

 

[BigTimeTiger]

Hope you get the underlying issue checked out. If you've got something going on that causes that level of diminished function, COVID19 won't merely be a common cold for you.

The mask caused that distinction!
All you want to do is tell me what to do. I’m in the highest risk group (heart disease) and have yet to get sick. My son works at a Chick-fil-A and has had test after test negative! I’ve been to church, restaurants, bars, etc. I guess I’m just lucky I haven’t caught the big bad wolf yet. I’m from a large family and still don’t know a Covid-19 person. But again you know better. I know what happens to me when I wear a mask. All that junk science from idiots is just rash thinking and hysteria.

 

[tigergrad03]

Mask on restiing for 30 minutes after a 30 minute walk. It’s 68%!! I take mask off and back to nineties in two minutes. I don’t stay home. I’m going about normal life as I’m not worried about the common cold either.

Yikes! I posted similar information on here a while back. Wife’s oxygen level got down to 87% while simply sitting on couch and then walking down the hall. Wore a mask and used finger device. 68% is critically low! Anything 86% or less is considered a problem that requires oxygen if it doesn’t come back up. Great post

 

[TheValley91]

The top # is your pulse. It's not a percentage.

The bottom # is your oxygen percentage. 94% is good.

Hahahaha

 

[clemsontiger02]

Yikes! I posted similar information on here a while back. Wife’s oxygen level got down to 87% while simply sitting on couch and then walking down the hall. Wore a mask and used finger device. 68% is critically low! Anything 86% or less is considered a problem that requires oxygen if it doesn’t come back up. Great post

But it's not. He's incorrect.

 

[AustinTiger77]

The top # is your pulse. It's not a percentage.

The bottom # is your oxygen percentage. 94% is good.

Good catch. Like I said, the people fighting the masks are the ones who have to be reminded not to eat the silica packets.

 

[AustinTiger77]

The mask caused that distinction!
All you want to do is tell me what to do. I’m in the highest risk group (heart disease) and have yet to get sick. My son works at a Chick-fil-A and has had test after test negative! I’ve been to church, restaurants, bars, etc. I guess I’m just lucky I haven’t caught the big bad wolf yet. I’m from a large family and still don’t know a Covid-19 person. But again you know better. I know what happens to me when I wear a mask. All that junk science from idiots is just rash thinking and hysteria.

And you don’t even know how to read your pulse oximeter.

 

[AustinTiger77]

But it's not. He's incorrect.

Lol

 

[tigergrad03]

But it's not. He's incorrect.

In his post I understand him to say it at some point hit 68% oxygen related. That’s not the case in the picture as that’s his heart rate.

 

[sloanMB]

Any of you turds actually live in Georgia? I'm all for wearing a mask, and I do. I wish everyone would. But Kemp's rationale is solid - he's not going to go around creating mandates when people/cities/establishments aren't even following or enforcing the existing ones. So what good does it do other than to just say "now we've got this."

 

[firegiver]

That's what I was thinking. Seems a bit ridiculous to claim it's unconstitutional to make people wear a mask.

Apparently, to the Karens of the world it is unconstitutional.

LOL, requiring folks to wear masks divides as well.

But the government isn't requiring you too. Private businesses are.

 

[tigergrad03]

Apparently, to the Karens of the world it is unconstitutional.

But the government isn't requiring you too. Private businesses are.

Actually The City of Greenville is requiring it but very few are doing it. They cannot enforce it.

 

[C-TeamHOF]

So how long? Like do we wear masks in public forever?
This is a matter of risk vs reward. If we never drive cars again there will never be another wreck and more people will live. Don’t we care about those people too?
Not trying to be an ass but I is there ANY sort of time limit on wearing masks in public? I’m not sure we are close to a cure and if one never comes I’m not willing to wear a mask forever just like I’m not willing to stop driving. Or many other comparisons. I’m sure this is some sort of “straw man” argument but the point remains that life has some risk attached and this virus is not nearly as bad as previously reported.

 

[Casa_del_Tigre]

Kemp > McMaster

 

[firegiver]

Mask on restiing for 30 minutes after a 30 minute walk. It’s 68%!! I take mask off and back to nineties in two minutes. I don’t stay home. I’m going about normal life as I’m not worried about the common cold either.

lmao you have 94% oxygen content not 68 ! lolololol

 

[clemsontiger02]

In his post I understand him to say it at some point hit 68% oxygen related. That’s not the case in the picture as that’s his heart rate.

LOL. He referenced the picture as 68% oxygen levels. That is false. You can try and twist the truth, but there's no use. His numbers are wrong, and you are a fool for blindly believing them at first glance, just because they supported your position on the matter.

I'd say "do better", but we all know that you won't.

 

[firegiver]

So how long? Like do we wear masks in public forever?
This is a matter of risk vs reward. If we never drive cars again there will never be another wreck and more people will live. Don’t we care about those people too?
Not trying to be an ass but I is there ANY sort of time limit on wearing masks in public? I’m not sure we are close to a cure and if one never comes I’m not willing to wear a mask forever just like I’m not willing to stop driving. Or many other comparisons. I’m sure this is some sort of “straw man” argument but the point remains that life has some risk attached and this virus is not nearly as bad as previously reported.

What in the world to car crashes have to do with the issue at hand? What's the price of tea in China got to do with wearing a mask to protect yourself and your community?
IDGAF anymore people are so silo'd into their own group think what does it matter.

 

[firegiver]

Actually The City of Greenville is requiring it but very few are doing it. They cannot enforce it.

Ok i don't live in Greenville. Do you? What if the state of SC required you did have to. Would you be cool with it?

 

[tigergrad03]

LOL. He referenced the picture as 68% oxygen levels. That is false. You can try and twist the truth, but there's no use. His numbers are wrong, and you are a fool for blindly believing them at first glance, just because they supported your position on the matter.

I'd say "do better", but we all know that you won't.

See my other post. It’s clear in the picture his oxygen level is 94% and his heart rate is 68.

 

[tigergrad03]

Ok i don't live in Greenville. Do you? What if the state of SC required you did have to. Would you be cool with it?

I live close to The City of Greenville. The governor has already stated he will not and cannot mandate a law to require wearing a mask. That it has no legal basis and cannot be enforced. If he had mandated it, I would not wear one. And I was in the city for dinner and other activities for 4 hours last Friday. I never even brought a mask with me and very few people had one.

 

[clemsontiger02]

See my other post. It’s clear in the picture his oxygen level is 94% and his heart rate is 68.

Ok. But you called his post where he INCORRECTLY cited false numbers a "great post".

Don't worry...we know this is how you roll. You get all excited about the slightest bit of anecdotal info that seems to fit your agenda. Then you run over here to share and praise it before ever asking yourself if it was true.

You. Are. A. Fool.

 

[Transference]

Mask on restiing for 30 minutes after a 30 minute walk. It’s 68%!! I take mask off and back to nineties in two minutes. I don’t stay home. I’m going about normal life as I’m not worried about the common cold either.

I don't know man, maybe you should stay home more. This has to be a hard world to navigate for you.

 

[Casa_del_Tigre]

Can someone provide a study that suggests masks are ineffective to reduce transmission? Bc all I’m seeing (CDC, Johns Hopkins, etc) seems to make it pretty clear that yeah, a mask helps.

What does it say about he CDC that they said Mask could increase the likelihood of healthy people getting coronavirus just 2 months ago? During this same time we were told shelter-in-place would flatten the curve without any scientific evidence to support it:

Fast forward to today. The CDC now says the US could get coronavirus under control in one or two months if everyone wears a mask. What do you think changed between now and then? Also, does this mean the CDC is now admitting the non science based approach of shelter-in-place was wrong?

The CDC has been wrong on everything, but yet people come here and claim they are using science. There was no science to support shelter in place. And apparently there was no science to support face mask 2 months ago...

Running out of mask for medical staff isn’t relevant if mask are the cure. No one in hospital if they are all saved because of mask... the World Health Organization also came out and said that asymptomatic carriers “RARELY” spread the virus. (Ends the need for mask) They then came back and said it was a bad choice of words and that a lot actually can spread it.

I don’t understand how anyone educated can blindly ignore all the contradictions from the experts. This whole mess has been another great example of the failures due to central planning.

 

[IMBlessed]

How about if people are so damn anxious about masks they wear one and they’ll be protected and the people who are not anxious don’t. Seems simple

That Selfish approach would be great, with 1 exception...MY WEARING A MASK IS DESIGNED TO KEEP YOU PROTECTED! Signed not anxious, Just Selflessly Want To Protect My Fellow Tiger/American!

 

[tigergrad03]

Ok. But you called his post where he INCORRECTLY cited false numbers a "great post".

Don't worry...we know this is how you roll. You get all excited about the slightest bit of anecdotal info that seems to fit your agenda. Then you run over here to share and praise it before ever asking yourself if it was true.

You. Are. A. Fool.

I clearly said I misinterpreted what he said in his post. See the article I just posted on the board from the NEJM. It’s points out the exact same findings as the article posted from the other credible site yesterday. That masks are not effective.

But keep slinging your personal insults. I actually find it amusing. And the more you do it the more I will come here with what I know and find. And who is “we.” Did you skip all the posts from people who agree with me?

It’s truly sad that you and others can’t agree to disagree.