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Democrats right now...
Chances your mentally challenged brain can process anything in the report? None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.Chances that your simple ass actually read the report = 0
Lolol. Because “this will ruin my presidency. I’m f**ked.” Are the words and reaction of an innocent person? HahahahahahaChances your mentally challenged brain can process anything in the report? None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
Chances your mentally challenged brain can process anything in the report? None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
Says the guy who gets his talking points from news networks who repeatedly report fake news (proven fact), loves Crumbs Nancy, Crying Chuck, and Pencil Neck Adam. Or is it that you live AOC, Tlaib, and Omar? Let's see how far the level of retardation goes with which trio you associate with.Really great comeback old sport. You should run along and find out what the supreme leader is telling you to think today. No matter what you do, don’t think for yourself!
The immaturity is incredible. Once this time in the US is done, the era of Trump will he talked about as a dark time in the country. And guys like @nytigerfan and I will be saying we knew all along.Says the guy who gets his talking points from news networks who repeatedly report fake news (proven fact), loves Crumbs Nancy, Crying Chuck, and Pencil Neck Adam. Or is it that you live AOC, Tlaib, and Omar? Let's see how far the level of retardation goes with which trio you associate with.
I can't read your broken english...The immaturity is incredible. Once this time in the US the era of Trump will he talked about as a dark time in the country. And guys like @nytigerfan and I will be saying we knew all along.
It appears my mind was thinking faster than my fingers could type.I can't read your broken english...
Says the guy who gets his talking points from news networks who repeatedly report fake news (proven fact), loves Crumbs Nancy, Crying Chuck, and Pencil Neck Adam. Or is it that you live AOC, Tlaib, and Omar? Let's see how far the level of retardation goes with which trio you associate with.
I'm no Democrat, but I would advise you to read the report. It's pretty damning on the case for obstruction of justice. The fact that no indictment was pursued based on long standing DOJ guidelines against indicting a sitting president simply means they were referring the facts to Congress. Here are a few highlights since you didnt read and just got Sean Hannity's version.Democrats right now...
I'm no Democrat, but I would advise you to read the report. It's pretty damning on the case for obstruction of justice. The fact that no indictment was pursued based on long standing DOJ guidelines against indicting a sitting president simply means they were referring the facts to Congress. Here are a few highlights since you didnt read and just got Sean Hannity's version.
Mueller's report states, "Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russia-interference and obstruction investigations." Further he writes, "The President engaged in a series of targeted efforts to control the investigation.”
It goes on to say, “The President’s efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests." (Note that you do not have to be successful obstructing justice to be guilty of obstructing justice.)
"The injury to the integrity of the justice system is the same regardless of whether a person committed an underlying wrong."
And finally... "If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state... Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment."
Note that the special counsel said in the quotes above that he would have exonerated him of any wrong doing in their report if the facts supported that but that the facts do NOT allow them to exonerate him of wrong doing and they laid out why they could not exonerate him. They stated that he had severely damaged the justice system and outlined through witness testimony that he clearly attempted to obstruct justice and was only unsuccessful because those around him refused orders and worked to obstruct his efforts to obstruct. How is that full exoneration as the president claims?
The fact that Trump nominated Bill Barr to write a summary to make it appear as if he had been exonerated of all wrong doing based on personal bias so that it could marinate with his supporters for a couple of weeks before actually releasing Muellers report was a shrewd political move. He knew that most people wouldn't read or have the unbiased intellect to interpret the report on their own when it finally came out. They would be ready to move on. So, why not tell his supporters he was fully exonerated and leave it to them to invest the time to see the special counsel stated otherwise in the report.
Regardless of the facts that show how flawed and corrupt this president is, the truth is that in order for Congress to to impeach and convict him of high crimes and misdemeanors there has to be an extremely high level of public disdain and support for such actions being taken by Congress. Without that our democracy would be irreparably damaged IMO. Unfortunately, due to the flawed and biased media coverage on both extremes of politics, the sufficient consensus needed to remove this president from office without damaging our democracy is not there. I honestly believe Trump is a more corrupt and flawed president than Nixon or Clinton was. Unfortunately, the bar has been moved and we are living in a different time with different standards for our political leaders.
Very well said. It’s a shame that Trump can just rely on the stupidity of his base and we all have to pay the priceI'm no Democrat, but I would advise you to read the report. It's pretty damning on the case for obstruction of justice. The fact that no indictment was pursued based on long standing DOJ guidelines against indicting a sitting president simply means they were referring the facts to Congress. Here are a few highlights since you didnt read and just got Sean Hannity's version.
Mueller's report states, "Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russia-interference and obstruction investigations." Further he writes, "The President engaged in a series of targeted efforts to control the investigation.”
It goes on to say, “The President’s efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests." (Note that you do not have to be successful obstructing justice to be guilty of obstructing justice.)
"The injury to the integrity of the justice system is the same regardless of whether a person committed an underlying wrong."
And finally... "If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state... Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment."
Note that the special counsel said in the quotes above that he would have exonerated him of any wrong doing in their report if the facts supported that but that the facts do NOT allow them to exonerate him of wrong doing and they laid out why they could not exonerate him. They stated that he had severely damaged the justice system and outlined through witness testimony that he clearly attempted to obstruct justice and was only unsuccessful because those around him refused orders and worked to obstruct his efforts to obstruct. How is that full exoneration as the president claims?
The fact that Trump nominated Bill Barr to write a summary to make it appear as if he had been exonerated of all wrong doing based on personal bias so that it could marinate with his supporters for a couple of weeks before actually releasing Muellers report was a shrewd political move. He knew that most people wouldn't read or have the unbiased intellect to interpret the report on their own when it finally came out. They would be ready to move on. So, why not tell his supporters he was fully exonerated and leave it to them to invest the time to see the special counsel stated otherwise in the report.
Regardless of the facts that show how flawed and corrupt this president is, the truth is that in order for Congress to to impeach and convict him of high crimes and misdemeanors there has to be an extremely high level of public disdain and support for such actions being taken by Congress. Without that our democracy would be irreparably damaged IMO. Unfortunately, due to the flawed and biased media coverage on both extremes of politics, the sufficient consensus needed to remove this president from office without damaging our democracy is not there. I honestly believe Trump is a more corrupt and flawed president than Nixon or Clinton was. Unfortunately, the bar has been moved and we are living in a different time with different standards for our political leaders.
What are you? Always thought you were a Democrat based on your posts. You’re by far the most informative, thorough, and fact based poster on anything politics on the board.I'm no Democrat, but I would advise you to read the report. It's pretty damning on the case for obstruction of justice. The fact that no indictment was pursued based on long standing DOJ guidelines against indicting a sitting president simply means they were referring the facts to Congress. Here are a few highlights since you didnt read and just got Sean Hannity's version.
Direct quotes from the report:
"Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russia-interference and obstruction investigations."
"The President engaged in a series of targeted efforts to control the investigation.”
"The President’s efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests." (Note that you do not have to be successful obstructing justice to be guilty of obstructing justice.)
"The injury to the integrity of the justice system is the same regardless of whether a person committed an underlying wrong."
And finally... "If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state... Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment."
Note that the special counsel said in the quotes above that he would have exonerated him of any wrong doing in their report if the facts supported that but that the facts do NOT allow them to exonerate him of wrong doing and they laid out why they could not exonerate him. They stated that he had severely damaged the justice system and outlined through witness testimony that he clearly attempted to obstruct justice and was only unsuccessful because those around him refused orders and worked to obstruct his efforts to obstruct. How is that full exoneration as the president claims?
The fact that Trump nominated Bill Barr to write a summary to make it appear as if he had been exonerated of all wrong doing based on personal bias so that it could marinate with his supporters for a couple of weeks before actually releasing Muellers report was a shrewd political move. He knew that most people wouldn't read or have the unbiased intellect to interpret the report on their own when it finally came out. They would be ready to move on. So, why not tell his supporters he was fully exonerated and leave it to them to invest the time to see the special counsel stated otherwise in the report.
Regardless of the facts that show how flawed and corrupt this president is, the truth is that in order for Congress to to impeach and convict him of high crimes and misdemeanors there has to be an extremely high level of public disdain and support for such actions being taken by Congress. Without that our democracy would be irreparably damaged IMO. Unfortunately, due to the flawed and biased media coverage on both extremes of politics, the sufficient consensus needed to remove this president from office without damaging our democracy is not there. I honestly believe Trump is a more corrupt and flawed president than Nixon or Clinton was. Unfortunately, the bar has been moved and we are living in a different time with different standards for our political leaders.
Thanks @broncosrb26 . I don't claim any political party. I'm just an American who wants what's best for the country.What are you? Always thought you were a Democrat based on your posts. You’re by far the most informative, thorough, and fact based poster on anything politics on the board.
This sums up the Mueller report and I couldn't agree more. Some of you people have no clue what Obstruction of Justice is. It's not like Trump deleted thousands of emails, destroyed gov't phone with hammers or wiped hard drives with BleachBit.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...report-proves-trump-did-not-obstruct-justice/
Have you read it yet?
Read most of it. Then, went back to pages referenced by both sides. The 2nd part of the report is exactly what I thought it would be. It is not traditional legal writing, but was meant to paint Trump in a bad light. He never has been a saint, and he looks bad in places, but how would you react if you knew you were innocent and a group of your haters were investigating you? He could not and did not obstruct justice, period.
I am also waiting for Trump's legal team to release their response. The guy referenced on page 61, Michael Caputo, was on tv last night describing his Mueller team interview and how it was written on page 61. The report states that he, Caputo was contacted by a Russian named Henry Greenburg. Caputo hired a private investigator to check out Greenburg. Apparently, Mr. Greenburg has been an FBI asset for the last 17 years. Why was that left out of the report? We will find out soon, and much more. There are people gong to jail for what they put this country through.
Anyone who thinks the "I'm f@#ked" comment is a sign of guilt is an idiot. The msm are idiots.
I stopped at "not traditional legal writing, since there is literally zero chance you know what "traditional legal writing is"...
Ah, the little defender of open borders, abstract gender identification pronouns and non inclusive, inclusiveness arrives on the scene. Hey, at least you got in the thread before the arrests begin.
i have never once in my life advocated for open borders. and, overwhelming majorities of Democrats don't support open borders.
calling someone "they" because they prefer it is not the end of the world. truly.
i have never once in my life advocated for open borders. and, overwhelming majorities of Democrats don't support open borders.
calling someone "they" because they prefer it is not the end of the world. truly.
What did you infer here?
"hough I think I'm going to regret this, I'll bite.
Honestly, I'm gonna guess that none of the liberals on this board support full amnesty for undocumented people. So I'm curious who this is even directed at?
Never mind the very simple fact that under any scheme discussed or proposed a person who has been deported in the past will never be eligible for expedited procedures.
Personally, I believe in expanding the seasonal work visas available to Mexico and Canada and providing a path to citizenship for undocumented folks already here who satisfy some set of criteria. We live in a global society, whether you want to believe it or not. In the long run, keeping Mexicans out of america is a losing proposition.
Borders are so 1650 "
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"The President’s efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests." (Note that you do not have to be successful obstructing justice to be guilty of obstructing justice.)
This case isnt just a little different, it is absolutely unrelated to any other investigation and unique to the Presidency. Comparing a lack of indictment of the president by Mueller to any other criminal investigation where there is no indictment is baseless. Mueller adhered to the long standing DOJ guidance of not indicting a sitting president and referred the facts in the case to Congress to take up under the constitution. The presidency is the only position in America where an investigation would not lead to an indictment by the DOJ if they felt he was guilty. The ONLY ONE. It doesnt compare in any way, shape or form to any other case where there is a lack of indictment.I know Trump's not the cleanest knife in the drawer, but after years of "Mueller is coming", "It's Mueller Time" etc, the fact that Mueller basically pitched a nothing-burger is hilarious to me.
So basically he didn't actually obstruct (I get the part about not having to be successful to be guilty).
Here's the thing about exoneration - this case is a little different but overall investigations rarely 'exonerate' anyone. They either find sufficient reason and evidence to press charges, or they don't.
I know Trump's not the cleanest knife in the drawer, but after years of "Mueller is coming", "It's Mueller Time" etc, the fact that Mueller basically pitched a nothing-burger is hilarious to me.
So basically he didn't actually obstruct (I get the part about not having to be successful to be guilty).
Here's the thing about exoneration - this case is a little different but overall investigations rarely 'exonerate' anyone. They either find sufficient reason and evidence to press charges, or they don't.
Friend, the question here is this: Do dem's make the case for impeachment or do they make the case to win in 2020. Thats where it stands with congress, because Mueller handed them an air tight case for obstruction. Fact is that Trumps supporters are so rabid and removed from reality the no balls democratic party is trying to analyze this to death in order to arrive at a winning solution for 2020.^^^^^^^^^^ A whole lot of bullshit being bandied about ^^^^^^ I think we've found the 2 people who still watch CNN.
Friend, the question here is this: Do dem's make the case for impeachment or do they make the case to win in 2020. Thats where it stands with congress, because Mueller handed them an air tight case for obstruction. Fact is that Trumps supporters are so rabid and removed from reality the no balls democratic party is trying to analyze this to death in order to arrive at a winning solution for 2020.
I don't gaf about either party, but watch now as Trump will shake the constitution to its core if Congress does impeach or subpoena his financial information. He'll try to get the judicial branch to block it.
Trump cares not for rule of law or how our constitution works, only 'winning' and doing what he wants. You have to at least be honest enough with yourself to understand that.
Good i don't long to wait now. ThanksThanks.We found another one. So much bullshit.
So, I guess electing a socialist is caring for the rule of law,( which you don't care about; seeing what has been done to Trump). Electing a socialist somehow is pro Constitution? Are you not the least bit interested in how all of this started? You think this is Trump's doing? LMAO!!
FYI- Trump is saving the country from people who don't give a rat's ass about the Constitution or the county.
Trust me, you don't long to wait now. The truth is coming!
Good i don't long to wait now. ThanksThanks.
Your whole diatribe sounds like handyman and your narrative was fed to you by charlatans.
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Admittedly, I have no idea what you're saying. Here's what you need to know:
****Admiral Mike Rogers will go down in history as the PATRIOT that saved the United States of America**** just wanted to put this out there..
1. OIG report on the FISA process coming out by early June, (according to Barr)
2. Then, Trump will declassify everything that the Mueller investigation prevented him from doing; (because of ongoing investigation restrictions)
3. Then, the 1.5 year investigation of John Huber, who has been working with the evidence accumulated by the OIG, will result in unsealing indictments that have been amassing for months.
Other significant items of interest: Nunes sent 8 criminal referrals to the AG recently. Julian Assange is being extradited here and will offer some significant facts in his defense.
Not gonna bash you too much. Because in reality, you and many well-meaning people have been duped by a concerted msm effort to create a type of "Mandela Effect" regarding all things Trump. ( I see Joe Biden is spouting some of the disinformation in his new video)
lol
Your narrative is bogus fake news.
On Tuesday, The New York Times first reported that the special counsel wrote to Barr saying he disagreed with the attorney general's summary of its nearly two-year investigation.
Days after Barr submitted his "principal conclusions" on the investigation, Mueller wrote a letter saying he "did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this office's work and conclusions," according to The Washington Post.
"There is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation," the letter continued. "This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the Department appointed the Special Counsel: to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations."