If Trump insisted on signing them, the buck stops there. Treasury is part of the administration. Congress had nothing to do with signing, mailing or certifying who should have received checks. That responsibility is ALL on this administration.
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If Trump insisted on signing them, the buck stops there. Treasury is part of the administration. Congress had nothing to do with signing, mailing or certifying who should have received checks. That responsibility is ALL on this administration.
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this. Navarro was a registered Democrat until 2018. He was also a big Clinton - Gore supporter
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Correct. Congress passed the CARES Act which allowed the allocation of $300 billion of the $2 Trillion to be used for the payment program. The treasury was then responsible for issuing the checks to Americans...preferably those who weren’t dead.
I have had a situation similar to this in the past. Not covid related but similar. I used to give blood as often as possible because I have the rare O neg type. After they were rude and acted like they were doing me favors I basically told them to go F_ck themselves. They then started calling me constantly about donating again.
Its like bird seed the more you put out the more birds come. The more birds that come the more they Sh_t on your porch!
No thanks
I chalked it up to the hysterical panic. I was disappointed because I wanted to help and they wouldn't let me. But I get it. You gotta have rules. In normal times I would have had an oral thermometer reading and a more accurate, lower reading.
There is a product called Cat Crap that can help. It doesn't completely eliminate the fogging but it does seem to help.
i hate to disagree with you but joe biden is not in control of his brand.
thats why the press hates trump.
they cant control him like they can biden
Trump himself can’t control Trump.
So the PRESS will control Biden? I thought you said it was going to be 3 liberal freshman members of Congress. C’mon man get your conspiracies right. Which presidents have been controlled by the media?
Nixon? Nope. Ford? No, he pardoned Nixon to the disappointment of many in media. Carter? No, the media was as confused about Carter as the rest of us. Reagan? Yeah, right. I could go on but the media doesn’t control the presidency. Usually events out of the ordinary control the presidency.
For Trump. it is the virus and police brutality resulting in racial unrest. For Bush 2 it was terrorist attacks; for Carter, it was an energy crisis and hostage taking. Who knows what lies ahead for Biden but something will test his mettle.
When the checks went out I was working and really didn't need the extra money. However the more I thought about it I came to realize the money wasn't just to help those out of work or those needing help to pay the rent. It was to help stimulate the economy so others would be hired which in turn would cause other people to be hired.
If that's true then it really doesn't matter who got the checks as long as they were spent. If dead people got the checks and they were never cashed and spent then no harm. If someone else got the dead people's check and spent it then you could see that as bad but the result would be the same. Money sent out, money spent. The was the whole point of the check anyway. But I don't see any way the 1.4 billion was lost.
the press will control his speech writers
the squad will control his policy decisions
hey so you wanted the treasury to hold the checks for how many extra weeks until they could fix accounting errors and fraud?
mnuchin said just get that liquidity in the supply line asap
a cog and a sprocket cant work together with a good chain
the chain overrides a tooth lost on a sprocket or cog right?
Three freshman members of Congress will control his policies? Biden has a very long history in national politics. He will not be looking to 3 freshman members of Congress-who have yet to pass a bill-for his policy making decisions. You clearly have never worked in Washington.
By the way, “who in the press” will control his speech writers. I can assure you, Biden’s agenda will not be driven by Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity the way Trump’s is. He follows everything Fox suggests. Talk about being controlled by media. His own staff members go on Fox News so they can communicate to Trump.
not a fan of this
(Re-investing in land grant universities’ agricultural research so the public, not private companies, owns patents to agricultural advances. The Biden Administration will reinvest in agricultural research by bolstering funding for the Sustainable Agriculture Research and Education Program and the National Institute of Food and Agriculture. Our farmers need new technologies to compete in world markets while protecting our soil and water. These new technologies – and the next new seeds – should be developed and owned by the American people, not private companies who can use patents to expand profits.)
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does this sound like capitalism??????
To be fair, Trump isn’t exactly a stalwart of free market capitalism either. Both are now America-first, just with different approaches.
Well yes. The idea of a patent that a school can use to make itself money to further their goals is pretty much, exactly, capitalism.
He isn't saying we are going to take patents from people, just conduct research in schools and use the products to benefit the people who created them.
This sounds like a great idea.
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by far the most pointless point you have ever made, and that is saying something. I would tell you to try harder next time, but who knows what nonsense that would produce.
Not only is @iceheart08 spot on but have you forgotten that Trump took all the money from tariffs and gave it to farmers in the Midwest? That clearly is not capitalism.
I will take Biden’s capitalism over Trump’s any day. And at least we will see Biden’s tax returns!
Just stop. You have proven wrong again and again, at some point you should just give up. By the way, if Trump resigns before the election, you lose our bet.
Wrong.gif The bill crafted and passed by the House of Representatives details the amounts and process by which the stimulus was to be sent. The Senate made a few small adjustments, but as Sen. Graham said, it was more important to get the stimulus out quickly than it was to get the process perfected which would have added weeks to the process. If you are advocating that they should have taken longer then the economy would have certainly been well down the road to a depression. Quick action on the stimulus and agressive action by the Fed have keep the economy afloat. The President was presented with the same options a president has on any bill that is sent to the Oval from Congress. Sign it and put the plan to action or Veto and send it back to Congress for revision, override or tabling it. The Treasury was bound to produce the checks by the process outlined in the bill that was approved. Your attempt to paint this as a failure of the "Administration" is both flawed and inaccurate.
Hate is Hate. Call your comtempt what it is. You may not like Trump, but at least be intellectually honest about it.
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I am not wrong. The Administration wanted to take credit for this package - in fact in a reversal of previous policy the President insisted on signing the checks rather than the Treasurer of the United States (not the Sec of the Treasury) - so the administration has to take responsibility for sending the checks to millions of dead people.
That’s my point. It wasn’t Congress’s fault. When you become chief executive, you take responsibility for the efficient functioning of your departments. It isn’t like he can blame Obama for something that took place 3+ years into his term.
I would place the blame on any future administration (Dem or GOP) for the same kind of mistake.
BUT if you were to be infected and not know it. Wearing a mask inside helped the staff and other patrons from catching it from YOU. Wearing the mask is not about you, it's about protecting other from you. I know that doesn't enter your thinking. But some of us appreciate it anyway, so thanks for wearing it.. foggy glasses do suck, I fight it every day. Wash your glasses with Dawn and leave a tiny bit of soap on the lenses when you rinse, it helps a bit. Also, don't step out into the street with foggy glasses... that will lower your risk of getting hit by a car to below your COVID chances.
Besides, Trump was wearing a mask yesterday (and looking pretty bad ass according to his staff). If that keeps up, within a week or so, everyone on here will be saying that Trump has been wearing a mask the whole time and Fauci was the one telling him not to.
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So, let me see if I have your logic straight, by insisting on "signing" the checks (because let's be honest, they were signed by a machine {they just bore his signature} the President assumed personal responsibility for the correct addressing and delivery of millions of checks to whomever they were delivered. Have I got that right pumpkin?? Because the flaw in this logic is so wide that I could drive a semi-truck through it if you installed outriggers on both sides. Again, the "rules" by which the checks were printed, drafted and sent were established in the congressional bill that, with the appropriate approvals, authorized them. And at no point did I bring up Obama. He is history and with an awful legacy that he will have to live down to. And it wasn't a mistake as much it was a necessary flaw for the sake of expediency. Again, delaying action to "perfect the process" would be like not giving a stroke victim the tPA shot until you confirmed with their general practicioner, specialist and admissions attendant that the patient wasn't allergic to something in the shot. By the time they got it, it wouldn't do much good. Not to mention that during that time period even more people would have died. Sorry bud, I love ya, but your logic is way off.
Anyway, regards. Hope you have a better day.
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if a 2019 taxpayer passes away, how many days does his family have to notify the IRS that the person died and to remove them from the mailing list?
whats the procedure for removing dead people from the previous years tax roles?
just trying to figure out how trump fukked this up
you know what
you guys are right
fukk trump
why did he choose to give small businesses operating capital over checks to dead people.
thats a freaking disgrace
those small business owners could have waited 2-4 more weeks for operating capital.
we had dead people get checks
no telling what those dead people spent those checks on
dam that trump
putting small business owners working capital needs above sending checks to dead people
screw him
that doesnt help the communist
you guys are right
fukk trump
why did he choose to give small businesses operating capital over checks to dead people.
thats a freaking disgrace
those small business owners could have waited 2-4 more weeks for operating capital.
we had dead people get checks
no telling what those dead people spent those checks on
dam that trump
putting small business owners working capital needs above sending checks to dead people
screw him
that doesnt help the communist
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