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Joe Rogan Podcast with Alex Jones and Tim Dillon just hit

Thank God for Alex Jones




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I'm not a tin foil hat dude, but Alex Jones is entertaining. And Tim Dillon is a funny dude. I bet the Great Reset gets talked about. https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/beware-those-bearing-simplistic-lessons-pandemic
alex jones would be entertaining if there werent hundreds of thousands of people out there who believe what he has to say.

as a reminder:

 
alex jones would be entertaining if there werent hundreds of thousands of people out there who believe what he has to say.

as a reminder:


Yeah, I mean he’s off his rocker, but whatever

The censorship is out of line. I don’t care what he claims, and I don’t care if Twitter, Facebook, etc are private entities, we shouldn’t be ok with people being censored in the US. That should be frowned upon by everyone, yet here we are
 
Yeah, I mean he’s off his rocker, but whatever

The censorship is out of line. I don’t care what he claims, and I don’t care if Twitter, Facebook, etc are private entities, we shouldn’t be ok with people being censored in the US. That should be frowned upon by everyone, yet here we are

facebook not allowing his nonsense on their platform isnt censorship. He's free to speak his "truth" elsewhere.
 
Yeah, I mean he’s off his rocker, but whatever

The censorship is out of line. I don’t care what he claims, and I don’t care if Twitter, Facebook, etc are private entities, we shouldn’t be ok with people being censored in the US. That should be frowned upon by everyone, yet here we are
Just the free market at work. Businesses can choose what content they allow and customers can choose whether to continue to use the service. Facebook announcing Q3 results Thursday so we’ll see how they’re doing. Will be interested in how much they were hurt by companies pulling ads from them and how much that has to do with their more aggressive censoring policies.
 
Yeah, I mean he’s off his rocker, but whatever

The censorship is out of line. I don’t care what he claims, and I don’t care if Twitter, Facebook, etc are private entities, we shouldn’t be ok with people being censored in the US. That should be frowned upon by everyone, yet here we are
Its kind of retarded i really agree about the censorship but its a nuanced argument. Private companies can deny service to whoever the fvck they want as long as its not based on racism or sexism right? So Alex Jones trolled himself off the platforms.
I really don't think anyone should be booted off platforms honestly, I think people should understand that when you listen to nutcases you can't believe them and you shouldn't believe them. His comments on Sandy Hook were horrible and indefensible and led to him being black listed. He even argued in a court of law that he was fabricating a story as he is acting out a character. His ultimate legal and ethical reason why he's 'censored' is the same reason someone can be charged with inciting a riot. His followers were contacting the parents of dead kids and demanding they come clean. Disgusting.
 
Its kind of retarded i really agree about the censorship but its a nuanced argument. Private companies can deny service to whoever the fvck they want as long as its not based on racism or sexism right? So Alex Jones trolled himself off the platforms.
I really don't think anyone should be booted off platforms honestly, I think people should understand that when you listen to nutcases you can't believe them and you shouldn't believe them. His comments on Sandy Hook were horrible and indefensible and led to him being black listed. He even argued in a court of law that he was fabricating a story as he is acting out a character. His ultimate legal and ethical reason why he's 'censored' is the same reason someone can be charged with inciting a riot. His followers were contacting the parents of dead kids and demanding they come clean. Disgusting.
Stop bringing logic and nuance into this discussion. It doesn't suit this board.
 
Just the free market at work. Businesses can choose what content they allow and customers can choose whether to continue to use the service. Facebook announcing Q3 results Thursday so we’ll see how they’re doing. Will be interested in how much they were hurt by companies pulling ads from them and how much that has to do with their more aggressive censoring policies.
I'm a Libertarian and I'm going to disagree with this. Section 230 was put in place to protect social media from getting sued from what others posted. The whole idea of it was to protect them from a lawsuit so they wouldn't censor. Now Facebook and Twitter have censored the oldest newspaper in the US (NY Post). Twitter has still banned them from posting content. They censor the President. They censor the Press Secretary for posting a NY Post article. Many people get their news from social media platforms. I believe they should be treated as utilities. Verizon doesn't have the authority to censor my text messages to my friends.

I don't care who's the President or Press Secretary. If Biden tweeted that fornicating with frogs (A Book of Mormons reference) will treat Covid.... that post shouldn't be censored.
 
I'm a Libertarian and I'm going to disagree with this. Section 230 was put in place to protect social media from getting sued from what others posted. The whole idea of it was to protect them from a lawsuit so they wouldn't censor. Now Facebook and Twitter have censored the oldest newspaper in the US (NY Post). Twitter has still banned them from posting content. They censor the President. They censor the Press Secretary for posting a NY Post article. Many people get their news from social media platforms. I believe they should be treated as utilities. Verizon doesn't have the authority to censor my text messages to my friends.

I don't care who's the President or Press Secretary. If Biden tweeted that fornicating with frogs (A Book of Mormons reference) will treat Covid.... that post shouldn't be censored.
You’re a Libertarian and believe that these businesses should be regulated as public utilities?
 
You’re a Libertarian and believe that these businesses should be regulated as public utilities?
Yes, or let them be sued like any other company. You can't have your cake and eat it to. The Government shouldn't be protecting them, while letting them censor.

And not all companies. Large billionaire monopolistic companies need regulations. And I mean that with the Constitutional meaning of the word regulate....to make regular.

I'm still mad at your with that Safety (McKinney??) that committed to Alabama troll you did on signing day. Your My Thoughts though are legendary.
 
No the ISP's do.... which we've given them free reign to censor as we refuse to treat internet as a commodity and yet here people are whining about it. Hilarious.

Determine the choke point wherever you would like, but it’s most impactful at its most dominant. The ISPs can be changed, modified, or eliminated, the platforms truly hold the power
 
Just the free market at work. Businesses can choose what content they allow and customers can choose whether to continue to use the service. Facebook announcing Q3 results Thursday so we’ll see how they’re doing. Will be interested in how much they were hurt by companies pulling ads from them and how much that has to do with their more aggressive censoring policies.
Nothing free about this leftist oligarchy that you euphemistically call a “market”. Its chickens are roosting on your future and crapping all over it. But do go on with strawman arguments about markets and freedom.

you’re right about “free” being at the core of this problem. We need “free” for viewpoint diversity, not totalitarian oligarchy.
 
Determine the choke point wherever you would like, but it’s most impactful at its most dominant. The ISPs can be changed, modified, or eliminated, the platforms truly hold the power
Anyone who sees the ISP’s as being more relevant than the platforms in regards to the topics in this thread, I can’t even fathom.
 
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I'm a Libertarian and I'm going to disagree with this. Section 230 was put in place to protect social media from getting sued from what others posted. The whole idea of it was to protect them from a lawsuit so they wouldn't censor. Now Facebook and Twitter have censored the oldest newspaper in the US (NY Post). Twitter has still banned them from posting content. They censor the President. They censor the Press Secretary for posting a NY Post article. Many people get their news from social media platforms. I believe they should be treated as utilities. Verizon doesn't have the authority to censor my text messages to my friends.

I don't care who's the President or Press Secretary. If Biden tweeted that fornicating with frogs (A Book of Mormons reference) will treat Covid.... that post shouldn't be censored.
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facebook not allowing his nonsense on their platform isnt censorship. He's free to speak his "truth" elsewhere.

It is censorship when you claim to be a platform and then selectively curate what voices can and can’t be heard and how loud those voices are. Social media platforms should not have the ability to step back and forth over the publisher/platform dividing line as it suits their motivations and/or meets the expediency needs of the hour. I don’t think anyone should be censored or deplatformed entirely. Demonetizing someone’s channel/page, that’s where it gets more nuanced IMO. But, the rules have to be explicit and applied uniformly, and I think it’s safe to say that - currently - that isn’t happening.
 
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Anyone who sees the ISP’s as being more relevant than the platforms in regards to the topics in this thread, I can’t even fathom.
I find this so funny. We can disagree but the isps are like the railroad and you are complaining about the trains. If you did t realize the ones who own the railroad are far and away more powerful
 
Twitter and Facebook are both gonna have a reckoning coming soon. It won’t be pretty and they’ll regret going to war with conservatives
 
I don’t really get the appeal of Alex Jones (or Joe Rogan, but that’s another story). I guess you really have to want to believe bad things about people you disagree with to like him.
 
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I find this so funny. We can disagree but the isps are like the railroad and you are complaining about the trains. If you did t realize the ones who own the railroad are far and away more powerful

The ISP’s don’t care what specific traffic goes across their networks content wise though so they aren’t in the content restriction game-porn is one of the biggest commodities they deliver. That’s why I said relevant to the topics in this thread.

And they certainly aren’t powerful compared to the platforms and even the telcos these days.
 
Nothing free about this leftist oligarchy that you euphemistically call a “market”. Its chickens are roosting on your future and crapping all over it. But do go on with strawman arguments about markets and freedom.

you’re right about “free” being at the core of this problem. We need “free” for viewpoint diversity, not totalitarian oligarchy.

Were you molested by a communist or what?
 
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