Just finished watching Michael Moore's sicko
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its time to take power, money, and influence away from washington and send back to the states.
power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely
You know it's funny how the left continually resorts to the failed Communist tactics of trying to divide us by race, sex, and income groups.
I didn't mention race, why did you?
I only stated that back then, costs were much lower and customer service was much better.
Son, you need to quit listening to the communists. There is a wealth of history that shows that stuff doesn't work
Then go to Cuba for healthcare. If memory serves me, that was Michael Moore's take.
US healthcare is the best without a close 2nd. Better than Canada, UK, Japan, Germany, Sweden. Wealthy fly in from the world over for it.
The economic aspects of healthcare stand to be improved. Obamacare made it worse yet. Raise taxes? Really? Bernie Sanders supporter? Do you have a job?
How about tort/ medical malpractice reform? 20 cents of every dollar of a medical bill of any kind is to cover liability insurance and pay lawyers. Lawyers are powerful lobbyists and most of Congress is made up of lawyers. How about allowing health insurance to be sold across state lines like almost any other kind of insurance? This would substantially lower premiums and improve quality of services and there would be true competition in the industry. Requiring health insurance to be bought only in your home state kills competition and keeps the premiums high. The insurance lobby is powerful. How about FDA reform to the European system? Large chunks of drug costs are to cover onerous research and clearing crazy hurdles set up by the FDA that keeps good drugs off the market and delays drugs and drives up research and development costs. Here, Europeans do drugs right.
In what country would you want major treatment or surgery instead of the US?
this response is, frankly, idiotic. you are simply regurgitating total and complete idiocy.
im not a communist, i dont read communist literature, and im not "resorting to the failed communist tactics of trying to divide us by race, sex, and income groups". Im definitely not your son (thank god) and im definitely not advocating for SOCIALIZED healthcare.
you said "lets go back to where we were" in the early 70s, that was the reality of the early 70s. you clearly have a problem considering the context of your statements. time and time again you say ignorant shit from a vacuum. thats not how the world works. you're the 60 year old, why havent you figured that out yet?
Why does it cost so much in America for health care?
- The cost of education is ridiculous in this country, so the pay of physicians and nurses etc has to be comparable.
- Pharmaceutical companies are absolutely fleecing people. But hey, it's capitalism so yay...
- Hospitals seem to have no incentive to advertise the price of their services so that you can shop around.
- Apparently a1/4th of the cost is administrative. For example 1,300 billing clerks at Duke University Hospital, which has only 900 beds. Those billing specialists are needed to determine how to bill to meet the varying requirements of multiple insurers. Canada and other countries that have a single-payer system don’t require this level of staffing to administer healthcare.
- The cost of education is ridiculous in this country, so the pay of physicians and nurses etc has to be comparable.
- Pharmaceutical companies are absolutely fleecing people. But hey, it's capitalism so yay...
- Hospitals seem to have no incentive to advertise the price of their services so that you can shop around.
- Apparently a1/4th of the cost is administrative. For example 1,300 billing clerks at Duke University Hospital, which has only 900 beds. Those billing specialists are needed to determine how to bill to meet the varying requirements of multiple insurers. Canada and other countries that have a single-payer system don’t require this level of staffing to administer healthcare.
The point is that YOU made it a RACE thing, I did not.
One of the most basic Communist tactics is to keep stirring up division along those lines.
Whether you read that literature or not doesn't matter, because this tactic has been fully accepted by the left. One only needs to listen to Hillary or Bernie for 15 minutes.
Its a huge part of their talking points, just like you.
You brought race into a discussion where it wasn't mentioned and where it had nothing to do with the discussion.
And, fyi, im 55. Wrong again.
Please tell me you don't call the fire department to put out your BBQ fire or scented candles.
What is Christian like in using emergency personnel for routine events? Adding workload to higher cost (think capable of responding to a wide array of unforeseen emergencies) doctors and nurses when people are just too lazy to visit the local RN at a doc in a box. Lot lower cost for everyone, plus emergency staff are ready to respond to real emergencies maybe saving a life.
I am pro tort reform. I think it has benefits on healthcare, but I don't think tort reform has any measurable effect on the cost of healthcare. Their are states with strict healthcare tort laws, South Carolina being one of them and most studies have shown that no real measurable decrease in costs occur with strict tort laws.
Obviously the main reason costs have increased so much is that people live longer now due to expensive procedures and pills. In the 70s there were no knee and hip replacements for instance. People that got a bad disease typically just died versus spending hundreds of thousands of dollars at the hospital to perhaps live decades longer to cost hundreds of thousands of more health care dollars. There are pills for everything.
- Phama is incredible expensive. Way more expensive in general compared to other countries.
- Hospitals are incredible bloated with middle management and nurse navigators and billing specialist that try to unravel the mess is getting paid through insurance, medicaid and medicare. Also teams of people in collection trying to collect money.
- Hard to shop around and compare.
The dumbest portion of our health care policy is that it is tied into getting it through your workplace. If you workplace doesn't offer it then they can get fined. It shouldn't be the burden of employers. Just as your shouldn't expect your employee to provide your home or car insurance.
Obviously the main reason costs have increased so much is that people live longer now due to expensive procedures and pills. In the 70s there were no knee and hip replacements for instance. People that got a bad disease typically just died versus spending hundreds of thousands of dollars at the hospital to perhaps live decades longer to cost hundreds of thousands of more health care dollars. There are pills for everything.
- Phama is incredible expensive. Way more expensive in general compared to other countries.
- Hospitals are incredible bloated with middle management and nurse navigators and billing specialist that try to unravel the mess is getting paid through insurance, medicaid and medicare. Also teams of people in collection trying to collect money.
- Hard to shop around and compare.
The dumbest portion of our health care policy is that it is tied into getting it through your workplace. If you workplace doesn't offer it then they can get fined. It shouldn't be the burden of employers. Just as your shouldn't expect your employee to provide your home or car insurance.
There's a lot of truth in here, mixed in with a lot of.... uh, wtf?
It would be tremendous if healthcare costs would decrease. Then we don't have to have the akward "who's gonna pay for it?" discussion.
Lawsuits account for about half of a percent of the cost of overall healthcare cost. Tort reform in Texas over the last 15 years proved it did absolutely nothing for state costs.
A vcr at $1500. uh, jeez, yeah, you think technology changes rapidly? you think it should have been $15 when it came out? I don't get your point here.
Some good, valuable thoughts in this. I'd like to, however, visit the the claim that healthcare costs are partially contributed to people living longer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_the_United_States
"According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the United States spent more on health care per capita ($8,608), and more on health care as percentage of its GDP (17.2%), than any other nation in 2011."
"The United States life expectancy of 78.4 years at birth, up from 75.2 years in 1990, ranks it 50th among 221 nations, and 27th out of the 34 industrialized OECD countries, down from 20th in 1990."
When Castro got sick, he left Cuba to see decent doctors. What does that tell you.
I believe the documentary discussed prescription drug prices in Cuba, not healthcare, in general, in Cuba.
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