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[dpic73]

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Another lie, you're making a lot of hay out of this simple statement.

"As president, Harris said, she pledged to "bring back the bipartisan border security bill that he killed" and "sign it into law."

She continued: "I know we can live up to our proud heritage as a nation of immigrants and reform our broken immigration system. We can create an earned pathway to citizenship — and secure our border."

Kamala Harris delivers forceful speech to close out DNC and accept 2024 nomination

Vice President Kamala Harris formally accepted the Democratic presidential nomination to close out the Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[yoshi121374]

Another lie, you're making a lot of hay out of this simple statement.

"As president, Harris said, she pledged to "bring back the bipartisan border security bill that he killed" and "sign it into law."

She continued: "I know we can live up to our proud heritage as a nation of immigrants and reform our broken immigration system. We can create an earned pathway to citizenship — and secure our border."

Kamala Harris delivers forceful speech to close out DNC and accept 2024 nomination

Vice President Kamala Harris formally accepted the Democratic presidential nomination to close out the Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

www.cbsnews.com

Anybody who doesn't understand and appreciate the need to create a legitimate pathway to citizenship is Un-American.

Make them register,allow them to work and aoy taxes for a waiting period to be determined, show they are good citizens, then let them be tested or whatever to be a citizen.

Rounding up immigrants and sending them back sounds great to the MAGAs. They forget some stuff though.

1. How are you going to round them up? Which group, where will you hold them, planes,busses? Forced hikes?

2. Who is going to pay for it? Those planes and busses,extra staff are going to be really expensive.

3. What are you going to do with the kids? If born here they are American Citizens.

4. How are you gonna handle the massive issues we will then have in our food system, home building, etc?

5. Rounding them up and sending back will lead to massive inflation.

 

[dpic73]

Anybody who doesn't understand and appreciate the need to create a legitimate pathway to citizenship is Un-American.

Make them register,allow them to work and aoy taxes for a waiting period to be determined, show they are good citizens, then let them be tested or whatever to be a citizen.

Rounding up immigrants and sending them back sounds great to the MAGAs. They forget some stuff though.

1. How are you going to round them up? Which group, where will you hold them, planes,busses? Forced hikes?

2. Who is going to pay for it? Those planes and busses,extra staff are going to be really expensive.

3. What are you going to do with the kids? If born here they are American Citizens.

4. How are you gonna handle the massive issues we will then have in our food system, home building, etc?

5. Rounding them up and sending back will lead to massive inflation.

All true but I specifically wanted to blow a hole in the charge that she said she would "give a pathway to citizenship for every illegal here right now." We know that many of them will be deported once they get to their court dates and she will not get in the way of that process. She is only suggesting that there should be a way to earn your citizenship, for those that have legitimate asylum claims.

 

[yoshi121374]

All true but I specifically wanted to blow a hole in the charge that she said she would "give a pathway to citizenship for every illegal here right now." We know that many of them will be deported once they get to their court dates and she will not get in the way of that process. She is only suggesting that there should be a way to earn your citizenship, for those that have legitimate asylum claims.

Absolutely.

The school my wife was the counselor at in Anderson had a very high population of immigrants here on asylum visas. Most were from the Central American Triangle of Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador.

These are families who are trying to escape the cartel violence and find a safer,better life for their family. The courage it must take to leave your home, walk 1000's of miles for a chance at a new life should be applauded, not ridiculed. It's literally the American Dream. They were great students,worked hard, and had engaged families who were so grateful for a chance.

Do we need new laws, absolutely, should we have border security and a process to vet entry, also yes.

It's so frustrating to see a Bi Partisan law that would help get shot down because Donald Trump didn't want there to be anything positive that he couldn't benefit from.

The MAGAs on this board keep talking about Open Borders, but your guy owns that.

 

[okclem]

I've become a real fan of Mark Cuban over the last few years. He's right on. What she's doing is almost unthinkable at any other point in the party's history.

 

[okclem]

 

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[tboonpickens]

I've become a real fan of Mark Cuban over the last few years. He's right on. What she's doing is almost unthinkable at any other point in the party's history.

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She's doing a great job mitigating centrists' concerns that she is some kind of ultra lefty as the MAGA crowd wants you to believe. Of course, being left of MAGA isn't a high bar for normal people, but she did a great job last night avoiding stepping on any rakes there.

 

[okclem]

 

[yoshi121374]

I've become a real fan of Mark Cuban over the last few years. He's right on. What she's doing is almost unthinkable at any other point in the party's history.

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Mark Cuban is who MAGAs thought Trump was and portrayed himself as.

An actual self made man who is smart, not an asshole, but also not weak.

He wants to learn and has shown a capacity to filter through Bullshit.

I'd be very intrigued by Cuban as a presidential candidate.

 

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[okclem]

Mark Cuban is who MAGAs thought Trump was and portrayed himself as.

An actual self made man who is smart, not an asshole, but also not weak.

He wants to learn and has shown a capacity to filter through Bullshit.

I'd be very intrigued by Cuban as a presidential candidate.

I'd like to see him get some sort of cabinet position that develops policy for Socially Responsible AI implementation. I view him as kind of an anti-Elon.

 

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[okclem]

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The one on the right is truly an all timer.

 

[dpic73]

The one on the right is truly an all timer.

The one on the left is an all time low 😅

 

[okclem]

The one on the left is an all time low 😅

He's a mutant

 

[nytigerfan]

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Is he trying to make himself look more "bleck" to win some voters?

 

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[nytigerfan]

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Four years later, you are still claiming a stolen election.

But WE are the ones who cry like bitches.

You are a true Qanon shaman, man.

 

[kgwillison]

Anybody who doesn't understand and appreciate the need to create a legitimate pathway to citizenship is Un-American.

Make them register,allow them to work and aoy taxes for a waiting period to be determined, show they are good citizens, then let them be tested or whatever to be a citizen.

Rounding up immigrants and sending them back sounds great to the MAGAs. They forget some stuff though.

1. How are you going to round them up? Which group, where will you hold them, planes,busses? Forced hikes?

2. Who is going to pay for it? Those planes and busses,extra staff are going to be really expensive.

3. What are you going to do with the kids? If born here they are American Citizens.

4. How are you gonna handle the massive issues we will then have in our food system, home building, etc?

5. Rounding them up and sending back will lead to massive inflation.

Now, c'mon @yoshi121374, you know the answers to the questions you asked:

1) MAGA doesn't care how they are rounded up. Just as long as it is done at gun point, preferably by volunteer vigilantes.
2) Mexico will pay for it; just like it did the Wall Trump built for thousands of miles.
3) Kids? Trump already separated them once. Trump will cite precedence to do it again.
4) Trump has already proclaimed that much of the housing problem will go away with millions of deportations. Homeless people can move into the empty garages the illegal immigrants were using.
5) Inflation? Ha. MAGA knows that the inflation deportations will cause will pale in comparison to the massive inflation that will be caused by Trump's tariffs on every foreign product.

 

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[yoshi121374]

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So was her "crowd size" bigger than his?

 

[dpic73]

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Nielsen ratings are in: DNC demolishes RNC in nightly viewers

The 2024 Democratic National Convention in Chicago concluded on Thursday night, August 22 when presidential nominee Kamala Harris gave her acceptance speech. Harris' GOP rival Donald Trump, according to Rolling Stone, has been obsessed with the type of ratings the DNC would have — and insisted...

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[okclem]

As always, whatever maga says, the exact opposite is true. They have been radicalized to deny reality. They're the real RINOS.

 

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Why don't libs care about this????

 

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[TigerGrowls]

Very lame and predictable.

 

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[dpic73]

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[TigerGrowls]

This one is funny. I guess there is a first for everything.

 

[dpic73]

This one is funny. I guess there is a first for everything.

It's funny cuz it's true! 🤪

 

[TigerGrowls]

It's funny cuz it's true! 🤪

Nope.

 

[dpic73]

This was an awesome breakdown of Harris' speech - he called it remarkable and compared it to Clinton's acceptance speech, segment by segment.

A snippet:

"My conclusion? Perhaps the contrast with Clinton — and the hindsight bias of knowing Clinton lost — was inevitably going to make Harris look good by comparison, so that’s one potential flaw with this methodology. But man, Kamala Harris is approximately 1000x better at the stagecraft of politics than Hillary Clinton ever was.1"

Kamala Harris is not going back to the failed politics of 2016

She's good at this. And her speech was a shift away from Clintonian politics — and from wokeness.

www.natesilver.net

 

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@Polymarket - PA, AZ, NV, GA & NC (chance of winning)

PENNSYLVANIA
🟥 Trump: 52%
🟦 Harris: 48%
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ARIZONA
🟥 Trump: 55%
🟦 Harris: 45%
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NEVADA
🟥 Trump: 54%
🟦 Harris: 46%
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NORTH CAROLINA
🟥 Trump: 59%
🟦 Harris: 41%
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GEORGIA
🟥 Trump: 61%
🟦 Harris: 39%

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