Let’s get rid of Qualified Immunity for real change! Maybe we can all agree on this? Poll Added!

[cufan1]

You want something that will have a profound change in law enforcement practices? How about changing the rules of law on Qualified Immunity for police officers that commit crimes! They need to be convicted of breaking the law for this to apply! It is the only answer IMO. Give them a deductible of the cost of the median house cost in their towns/county of service. Or say just $150,000, anything over that you can sue them for. That would stop empowerment of the bad apples for sure. Heck just get rid of it altogether, with the threat of financial loss of their homes. They wouldn’t be so emboldened. You could also afford to give them better benefits because no more bad apples on the pension funds. BTW I Back The Blue! and All Lives Matter!

Would love to hear from the No voters. I know some may vote no just to make old BTT look silly. If you do that you’re part of the problem.

This proposal is pretty useless considering the biggest complaint is that police officers rarely get convicted or even charged.

 

[cftum]

You want something that will have a profound change in law enforcement practices? How about changing the rules of law on Qualified Immunity for police officers that commit crimes! They need to be convicted of breaking the law for this to apply! It is the only answer IMO. Give them a deductible of the cost of the median house cost in their towns/county of service. Or say just $150,000, anything over that you can sue them for. That would stop empowerment of the bad apples for sure. Heck just get rid of it altogether, with the threat of financial loss of their homes. They wouldn’t be so emboldened. You could also afford to give them better benefits because no more bad apples on the pension funds. BTW I Back The Blue! and All Lives Matter!

Would love to hear from the No voters. I know some may vote no just to make old BTT look silly. If you do that you’re part of the problem.

That would be like serving on a Board without D and O insurance. No one would accept that risk and they’d be a fool to do so. I get the intent and it makes sense for rational people but Attorneys would ruin it and every time a cop cuffed someone there would be a lawsuit. It’s not practical.
These guys are going to jail. They’re going to be punished. The one asking to roll him over might get off but more than likely they all serving time. You can’t make laws for the bad apples. That’s like saying we should make a law to stop murders Or drunk driving. Oh wait a minute. We have that already.

 

[AustinTiger77]

I am open. This guy was a bouncer at a bar from what I read also a former porn actor. Not exactly someone that should have a badge and gun.

Why would being either of those disqualify someone being in law enforcement?

 

[BigTimeTiger]

This proposal is pretty useless considering the biggest complaint is that police officers rarely get convicted or even charged.

Ok let’s open them up to civil suits even without criminal convictions. Only one caveat, loser pays all legal fees. That way only it’s not a free for all. Only suits that are solid would be filed.

 

[BigTimeTiger]

Why would being either of those disqualify someone being in law enforcement?

Because dude has questionable judgement in career paths.

 

[castlesl]

That's called rationalization. The cops had to concoct some story to make it seem it was an "accident". They f'd up and they were trying to lessen their burden.

That is entirely possible, and is also possible that sad sequence of events is exactly has it has been reported. Christian has relayed that version, so it is the one i will go with.

 

[BigTimeTiger]

This proposal is pretty useless considering the biggest complaint is that police officers rarely get convicted or even charged.

That would be like serving on a Board without D and O insurance. No one would accept that risk and they’d be a fool to do so. I get the intent and it makes sense for rational people but Attorneys would ruin it and every time a cop cuffed someone there would be a lawsuit. It’s not practical.
These guys are going to jail. They’re going to be punished. The one asking to roll him over might get off but more than likely they all serving time. You can’t make laws for the bad apples. That’s like saying we should make a law to stop murders Or drunk driving. Oh wait a minute. We have that already.

Ok let’s just open them up to civil suits even without criminal convictions. Only one caveat, loser pays all legal fees. That way only it’s not a free for all. Only suits that are solid would be filed. If the cop is convicted of any charges. He pays all legal fees in the civil suits. Would be a great place to start tort reform.

 

[BigTimeTiger]

Only answer I might know is that you taking a break from being online, could do you some good.


I spent time with my wife and casually ate a late breakfast. I feel no pressure to give you an answer for whatever you want.


I didnt participate in your poll.

OK I don’t understand how we can expect change with out conversations on what needs to be done. Y’all can stay on the systematic racism carousel then. I for one am off of it and have been all my life.

 

[AustinTiger77]

Because dude has questionable judgement in career paths.

So. You don’t go to bars and have never watched porn. Got it.

The fact is, many LEO work security @ bars/clubs/events & so what if he did porn? The mora panic over sex, sexuality & sex work had gotten old.

And, I wouldn’t be surprised if Chauvin’s treatment of George Floyd was somehow related to their work together. Seemed personal.

 

[appalachiatiger]

all i know is i have no problem protesting the killing of Capt Dorn, or the 100s of other "respectable" blacks killed in the last week by black thugs.

but there is no way under gods blue roof im ever gonna support a thief like floyd.

it was murder clear and simple.

but using it as a racism platform

smart people dont buy it.

 

[AustinTiger77]

all i know is i have no problem protesting the killing of Capt Dorn, or the 100s of other "respectable" blacks killed in the last week by black thugs.

but there is no way under gods blue roof im ever gonna support a thief like floyd.

it was murder clear and simple.

but using it as a racism platform

smart people dont buy it.

Hope you don’t consider yourself a Christian.

 

[BigTimeTiger]

“Fool please” is a friendly expression. You need to chill.

 

[appalachiatiger]

Hope you don’t consider yourself a Christian.

please explain in more detail?

 

[appalachiatiger]

DEMOCRATS ARE TO QUIT TAKING DONATIONS FROM POLICE OFFICERS

AND SOUNDS LIKE ENDING 911SERVICE IS NEXT.

 

[appalachiatiger]

14:45 min

 

[ChicagoTiger85]

Here’s what one writer has proposed. Seems reasonable to me:

 

[Buzzards Roost]

While we are at it let’s look at no cash bail. Why should someone with access to money get to go home?
I say no bail at all for dangerous arrestees no matter how rich and no jail Pre trial for others. Unless homeless and starving or cold and want to come in.

 

[cu1974]

Why would being either of those disqualify someone being in law enforcement?

You think maybe they might have associated with some criminal types?

 

[BigTimeTiger]

Almost 74% agree. Looks like a great place to start. How about it @iceheart08
@Da Swami @FLaw47
@nytigerfan ?

 

[BigTimeTiger]

Here’s what one writer has proposed. Seems reasonable to me:

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Not bad

 

[BigTimeTiger]

Did not know Biden was the reason the problem exists. I’m surprised he is trying to get rid of Qualified Immunity but I’m glad he has changed his systematic racism tendencies a little.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...wo-months-after-rodney-king-beating?_amp=true

 

[BigTimeTiger]

This is pretty funny

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...fficial-says-bidens-gone-off-the-deep-end.amp