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Maybe a terrorist attack in Spain

equating white nationalists with antifa is an just an easy way to escape blame for your own poor decisions and proclivities. there is no world in which those two sides are on the same footing in terms of their "fringe" beliefs.

You spew your political nonsense on here all the time and yet you are doing the same thing you are trashing Trump over. White Supremacist and Antifa are both trash, and complete obstacles to uniting the country. To defend one as not as bad as the other is acceptance, when the country would be better off if both sides were all exterminated
 
lol what a stilted comparison.

i don't remember liberals running a candidate for president who advocates and defends terrorism the way trump has the white nationalist movement.

this is just more "both sides equally bad" bullshit.
Trump does not equal conservatism.

Plenty of folks of a conservative ideology who voted against mr. trump in the latest election... i'm one of them.
 
Can you please point out where I said "both sides equally bad?"

Wasn't even remotely the point.

your very statement (Cannot wrap my mind around the notion that terrorist attacks are an indictment of liberalism, the same way I can't wrap my mind around the notion that the degenerate White Supremacy movement is an indictment of conservatism.) would indicate you believe that those who blame terrorism on liberalism are equally misguided as those who find a link between modern conservatism and the White Supremacist movement.

The current president and face of the republican party (so, conservatism) expressed racist and pro-white sentiments during his campaign, failed spectacularly in his reactions to this most recent event, hired as one of his closest allies a bonafide white nationalist (Steve Bannon), appointed an AG who was deemed too racist to be a judge in the goddamn 80s, and yet, he's still supported by a majority of republicans. so, what exactly confounds you about people who see the suddenly vocal and growing White Supremacist movement as a symptom of modern conservatism?
 
I don't think he advocated for it but he surely said some stupid things in the wake of it.

A lot of folks -- liberals, conservatives, whatever -- are angry over what he said and appalled at the degenerate Nazis who think this is 1930 or something.

I guess that was my only point: politicizing this stuff, one side or the other, just doesn't make any sense to me.

i don't understand how anyone could politicize the attack today because there's such a tenuous link between it and any specific politics, liberal or conservative.

on the other hand, i have no idea how exactly you expect a march of white supremacists and nazis, many of which feel emboldened by the current president and his policies, to not be "politicized."
 
your very statement (Cannot wrap my mind around the notion that terrorist attacks are an indictment of liberalism, the same way I can't wrap my mind around the notion that the degenerate White Supremacy movement is an indictment of conservatism.) would indicate you believe that those who blame terrorism on liberalism are equally misguided as those who find a link between modern conservatism and the White Supremacist movement.

The current president and face of the republican party (so, conservatism) expressed racist and pro-white sentiments during his campaign, failed spectacularly in his reactions to this most recent event, hired as one of his closest allies a bonafide white nationalist (Steve Bannon), appointed an AG who was deemed too racist to be a judge in the goddamn 80s, and yet, he's still supported by a majority of republicans. so, what exactly confounds you about people who see the suddenly vocal and growing White Supremacist movement as a symptom of modern conservatism?

My statement doesn't say or indicate they are equally misguided. It means exactly what I said, that I don't understand the logic.
 
i don't understand how anyone could politicize the attack today because there's such a tenuous link between it and any specific politics, liberal or conservative.

on the other hand, i have no idea how exactly you expect a march of white supremacists and nazis, many of which feel emboldened by the current president and his policies, to not be "politicized."

My feelings on Charlottesville -- my absolute disgust with these scumbag white supremacists and everything they represent -- has zero to do with my political leanings. Zero.

And I'm pretty sure there are a lot of folks out there like me.

Thats's what I mean.
 
It always seemed to me that Obama would not condemn terrorist that much. He would also scold us about assuming it was Muslim terrorism but then it always would turn out to be a Muslim. That used to get in my nerves.
 
I still can't believe that this doesn't happen more often. It is almost 100% unpreventable.

When people have no regard for there own life there is no way to prevent these tragedies.. Sad...
 
My statement doesn't say or indicate they are equally misguided. It means exactly what I said, that I don't understand the logic.

well then, given all the factors i presented, you've done a pretty poor job of explaining your logic.
 
My feelings on Charlottesville -- my absolute disgust with these scumbag white supremacists and everything they represent -- has zero to do with my political leanings. Zero.

And I'm pretty sure there are a lot of folks out there like me.

Thats's what I mean.

okay, well good on you and all, but that doesn't mean that there isn't a clear political basis in what happened that people will justifiably point out.
 
okay so i guess you don't care to explain your completely baseless assertion that you "can't wrap my mind around the notion that the degenerate White Supremacy movement is an indictment of conservatism."
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okay so i guess you don't care to explain your completely baseless assertion that you "can't wrap my mind around the notion that the degenerate White Supremacy movement is an indictment of conservatism."

To someone who thinks the notion is completely baseless? No I don't care to explain it. No offense intended.
 
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I'm just glad we don't have anyone in our country that would purposely drive a vehicle into a crowd and kill someone.
 
You spew your political nonsense on here all the time and yet you are doing the same thing you are trashing Trump over. White Supremacist and Antifa are both trash, and complete obstacles to uniting the country. To defend one as not as bad as the other is acceptance, when the country would be better off if both sides were all exterminated
your very statement (Cannot wrap my mind around the notion that terrorist attacks are an indictment of liberalism, the same way I can't wrap my mind around the notion that the degenerate White Supremacy movement is an indictment of conservatism.) would indicate you believe that those who blame terrorism on liberalism are equally misguided as those who find a link between modern conservatism and the White Supremacist movement.

The current president and face of the republican party (so, conservatism) expressed racist and pro-white sentiments during his campaign, failed spectacularly in his reactions to this most recent event, hired as one of his closest allies a bonafide white nationalist (Steve Bannon), appointed an AG who was deemed too racist to be a judge in the goddamn 80s, and yet, he's still supported by a majority of republicans. so, what exactly confounds you about people who see the suddenly vocal and growing White Supremacist movement as a symptom of modern conservatism?
You haven't responded to @Frog209 yet @clemsonpaw00 . By the way the BLM movement has caused more financial damage by blocking roads and burning down cities. All these rascist groups on both sides needs to be brought to justice period. Can't stand the thought of my daughter living in a world of hate.
 
a little bit baffling why the EU doesn't put barriers around all heavy volume areas that are pedestrian only. if cars are allowed they need to start reworking their infrastructure so the two don't cross.
Yea that makes much more sense than closing the borders and getting rid of the muslims.
 
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Cannot wrap my mind around the notion that terrorist attacks are an indictment of liberalism, the same way I can't wrap my mind around the notion that the degenerate White Supremacy movement is an indictment of conservatism.
Who's ideology or world view allows muslims to carry out these acts? Muslims have zero chance to attack us unless we let them. We have let them. Had we been vigilant, smart, tough, and less worried about political correctness none of this would be an issue on our soil. Same can be said for Europe. You can see an exponential rise is terrorism in Europe coinciding with their liberal policies that opened their borders and allowed in all these peace loving muslims.
 
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lol what a stilted comparison.

i don't remember liberals running a candidate for president who advocates and defends terrorism the way trump has the white nationalist movement.

this is just more "both sides equally bad" bullshit.
Epic fail
 
Cannot wrap my mind around the notion that terrorist attacks are an indictment of liberalism, the same way I can't wrap my mind around the notion that the degenerate White Supremacy movement is an indictment of conservatism.
Those are very accurate but we must make ALL groups pay for their actions or this will never stop.
 
The Charlottesville disaster could've been avoided if somehow law enforcement found a way to get both sides out in the public arena and a C-130 slipped a daisy cutter off its ramp.
I know, I'm a bad person.
 
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The white nationalists are no worse than BLM. Both should be done away with. Trump condemned both. Hillary asked for BLM endorsement, Obama invited BLM leaders to the white house. Who started the violence in Charlottesville?
 
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I will never blame terrorism on liberals. I think that is beyond even my intolerance for liberal policy. However, you cannot argue that leftist governments throughout Western Europe opened their borders to Muslim immigrants because they wanted the votes. Without coincidence, these terror attacks have increased throughout Europe as the Muslim population increases. I don't agree with the Conservatives coziness with Evangelicals, but at least they share the same ideology for the most part. Liberals cozy up to Islam even though they are on complete opposite sides of every spectrum except for redistribution of wealth.

Liberals did not create terrorism, but their naive view of the world and their disregard for borders in Europe have certainly assisted in making terrorism an unintended consequence.

THIS.....is the truth. It hurts I know for some, but Frog209 has nailed it bullseye here. Bed wetting liberals in EU opening the borders and this is what you get. There is no tolerance with these people. Conform to the twisted Jihhad way of life, or die. I got some Jihhad for ya. Nope, not for me and about 98% of the US agrees. Do I want to be walking down the street somewhere in Cobb Freakin County and witness shit like this? No, I don't. But the frequency of events such these are only increasing no doubt about that. My how fast we forget events in San Bernardino and Orlando.
 
Really, get your head out of the sand, it's political! The left and extremists are intolerant of all who don't want their stuff crammed down their throat. Same in US, flaming lefty's and extremists are completely intolerant of anyone who doesn't agree with them. Without law and order and civil discipline, we're all in deep trouble.
The only true part of any of this was the last sentence
Cannot wrap my mind around the notion that terrorist attacks are an indictment of liberalism, the same way I can't wrap my mind around the notion that the degenerate White Supremacy movement is an indictment of conservatism.
Larry, your eloquence and maturity is much appreciated. I don't want to name any names but it's sad that certain posters (@CUtiger (actual), @dpotter24 and @tallulahtiger30319) come on here to talk down to someone when at the end of the day we should be keeping the people of Barcelona and Spain in our thoughts. Time and time again we are too eager to make things political and push our own agenda when if we were to simply love each other as fellow human beings that things would be better.

Much love from this poster Larry, no troll.
 
The only true part of any of this was the last sentence

Larry, your eloquence and maturity is much appreciated. I don't want to name any names but it's sad that certain posters (@CUtiger (actual), @dpotter24 and @tallulahtiger30319) come on here to talk down to someone when at the end of the day we should be keeping the people of Barcelona and Spain in our thoughts. Time and time again we are too eager to make things political and push our own agenda when if we were to simply love each other as fellow human beings that things would be better.

Much love from this poster Larry, no troll.
As you are CLEARLY trolling here by tagging us in it. If anyone needs to grow up, it's you buddy. Have I posted in this thread yet? No. Did I serve in the Marine Corps overseas and see combat daily? Yes. I bring a very real and unique viewpoint that you, along with many others, will never know
 
As you are CLEARLY trolling here by tagging us in it. If anyone needs to grow up, it's you buddy. Have I posted in this thread yet? No. Did I serve in the Marine Corps overseas and see combat daily? Yes. I bring a very real and unique viewpoint that you, along with many others, will never know
You liked a post that was antagonistic towards me when I was simply trying to be peaceful and show compassion. Congrats on the service. I too own a viewpoint you will never know
 
It always seemed to me that Obama would not condemn terrorist that much. He would also scold us about assuming it was Muslim terrorism but then it always would turn out to be a Muslim. That used to get in my nerves.

I guess your reading skills must be lacking as much as your logic skills are because Obama strongly condemned terrorism in all forms and instances, including domestic terrorism which is something Trump has failed to do on several occasions now.
 
The white nationalists are no worse than BLM. Both should be done away with. Trump condemned both. Hillary asked for BLM endorsement, Obama invited BLM leaders to the white house. Who started the violence in Charlottesville?

Yeah, they are a tad different since one group is sort of supporting the death of Jews, praising Hitler and supporting the holocaust. I am not saying BLM is wonderful. In fact, I am no fan of their tactics. But to equate the two is laughable. And if you dont believe me just ask many of the GOP senators like Rubio, Hatch, Gardner, Mccain, Graham and Corker who have all intimated the same (that the two are not morally equiv).
 
If Muslims ever get their way your homosexual lifestyle will be at the top of their list of things to eradicate. How does that make you feel?

I'm glad you obliged the more hate request. Is that all you got though? Surely you can do better than "you are gay".
 
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