@hopefultiger13 check the video you're not correct here
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Nah man I just don't really care what some dorks do when no one's on campus.
So some randon upstate group wants to go to Sikes Hall to protest. I call BS on this. As noted above, you can't allow any random group to show up on a controversial topic. If its students only and peaceful, that's one thing but this is the issue with all these campuses. Outside groups should not be allowed to protest/block/vandalize college campuses and rouse up a handful of students. Have a feeling that the majority of these protests include a low percentage of enrolled students, especially as it pertains to places other than California
What a stupid caption. Regardless, as long as they're there to peacefully and legally support terrorists, leave them alone. Or go counter-protest and let them know they're supporting terrorists. If they break the law or decide to occupy space/be violent, then kick them out and suspend them.
To be fair, the fact that simply engaging in things like open dialogue on hot button topics is considered “trying to stir up controversy”, may be exactly why it’s necessary.
I can't tell if you are serious. That is his reasoning as to why he felt no guilt.
He's not claiming moral responsibility as it would have happened anyways in his mind. He still helped in confiscation of property this is not controversial and has been well established. Listen again. Are you missing the part where he says "that's right" to the direct question of confiscating property from Jews?
Kyle Rittenhouse should not get the poster boy for anything. Turning Point USA is dumb as shit to use him in the first place. What exactly is it necessary.
I'm not looking at the video because I don't really care... I googled Soro's age. Is he not 93? I did say he was born in 1931, but he was actually born in late 1930. That means that he was 13/14 and tracking down Jews for the Nazis. That seems unlikely.
I am not defending Soros. But I don't believe he was trained to track down Jews. He accompanied someone who had been paid off to (hopefully) save his life.
You care enough to correct someone else that said it but don't care to actually take 30 seconds to see if you are even right on the matter? That is an interesting choice.
I agree it seems unlikely, hard to imagine, which makes it even crazier as that is exactly what happened.
Some good ole boys need to make sure that Thomas Green Clemson's statue and Bowman Field are not harmed or defiled.
Yep was in the hospital myself a few years ago and totally understand those that do.
While I don't think there's much point of bringing Rittenhouse to college campuses, left-wingers dislike him for shooting the people who attacked him, even if it was determined he did it in self-defense. So, because they don't like him, they tried to put pressure on Clemson to prevent him from speaking by making it out like the university officially invited him.
I had to look up what you were talking about. I guess it must've been some sort of controversy that this passed in corners of the internet I don't frequent, because this bipartisan bill that passed with a large majority didn't get much attention elsewhere. It appears it adopts an expanded definition of "anti-Semitism" for non-discrimination in the Dept of Ed that the government already uses in other agencies, to encompass "claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor" and "drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis."
I'm not sure how the Dept of Ed enforces anti-discrimination law, but the sponsor of the bill said this, "When people engage in harassment or bullying of Jewish individuals where they justify the killing of Jews or use blood libel or hold Jews collectively responsible for the actions of the Israeli government — that is antisemitic. It's unfortunate that needs to be clarified, but that's why this bill is necessary." I think it remains to be seen if this would actually have an effect on protected speech any more-so than other provisions of anti-discrimination law, or that it would supersede speech protections if it conflicts with them. I do wonder if some of the reason some people oppose this is because it makes it harder to avoid their own anti-Semitism...
30k murdered? What are you talking about? It's ridiculous to compare the total number Hamas says have been killed in Gaza while Israel has been trying to recover hostages and root out terrorists to the total number of people killed in a terrorist raid.
But what's the "controversy" they're stirring up here? I think they should be allowed to bring Rittenhouse to campus, but I think it's dumb because it doesn't really serve any education purpose. He's a hero to people who wanted to see a more forceful response to the rioting in 2020, but he's also a guy who went to a riot with a gun and unfortunately had to use it in a deadly way to defend himself. Even though he didn't commit a crime, I don't think it's a good idea to flaunt what he did.
I also think it's silly to be needlessly provocative by bringing him to campus, and that he doesn't have much worthwhile to say. However, the point of this kind of provocation is to get left-wingers to try to prevent him from speaking and to make themselves look like they're being antagonized by anti-free speech leftists. Of course, it worked, because those people just can't help themselves.
If they don't follow the rules, expulsion.
He took part in some of that stuff because the guy who was taking care of him took him along. He was just there, he wasn't actively "tracking down Jews." But he was a kid, and a Jewish one, at that. I don't agree with much that he does, but the people insisting that what happened when he was a kid and in danger as a result of being Jewish are being really ridiculous. You really don't have to reach for stuff like this to disagree with Soros.
While I agree with you.......the law doesn't say, "unless its to prevent COVID." There's no government mandate to wear masks anymore. You can enforce it, you just have to have the nads to do it.
If these morons want to sit in silence, fine, they have that right in this country. The right to show the world you're an idiot.
However, the first one that stands up with a hammer or a can of spray paint, arrest and expel their ass.
However, the first one that stands up with a hammer or a can of spray paint, arrest and expel their ass.
There's a limit to free speech. Depending on the message and circumstances, free speech rights are superseded by public concerns (i.e., you cannot yell fire in a crowded theater).
So he did or did not partake?
You can justify it any way you like - it's irrelevant. People do many things survive - what was he going to do say he's Jewish and end up getting murdered? Not much of a choice for a 14 year old.
Regardless unless you have a time machine to prevent it from happing it's reality. Weird to pretend it didn't happen for emotional reasons.
What if you just don't care that it happened, and think people are bringing it up because they're using it to discredit the guy?
For instance, "Soros is the biggest piece of shit to walk the planet in our lifetime. He was one of the Jews that helped track down others Jews for the nazis."
That's fair game to not care. I don't in particular. It's not fair game to deny that it happened just because some are using it as an excuse to discredit him or anything he's involved in.
Your example would be an ad hominem fallacy in my view. I put them in the same boat as being intellectually dishonest
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I completely understand the sentiment here, and I am fully supportive of free speech - but one simply can't say certain things and expect to keep their job in many cases, for example...or, continue studying at a place like Clemson.
I’m sure for many of us it was much simpler times while attending clemson…
Just the score on terror, big bro patriot act and the new found intrusion into our personal lives…
The intro to Barack…one of the failed Hillary bids…roller coaster Bowden years….matket collapse…housing failures…hmmm
I guess it wasn’t actually.
Just keep making us more comfortable with chaos, higher costs, higher taxes…more socialist agenda…gradually it becomes more normalized. Shock and awe…encroach…take a little more.give a little less…pacify…scream racism…rinse and repeat. Pretty good playbook.
Bill Maher is almost always spot on.
Screw Palenstine. What have they done for the USA? They along with their best friend Iran constantly and publicly say death to America and death to Israel. These people hate the West and Israel. People tend to forget these are the bastards that went in and murdered tons of innocent civilians, cutting babies heads off, raping and kidnapping women, etc. They have terrorized the world for decades. They started this deal. I would have no problem if Israel completely destroys all of them and Iran as well. They are a cancer to the West that needs to be destroyed. I have had it with America being so soft on these country's that sponsor terroism, our border, transgender and LGTV basically changing all the laws, foreign imposters running our government, college campus and cities letting these groups do whatever they want, Illegal voting, and much more I hate to say it, but this country could be heading for another revolution. Clemson administration needs to put and end to all political/religious demonstrations on campus.
Today's students are the biggest pussies of all time. Also the dumbest.
Why are protesters homely, ugly-ass, loser looking people? They are society’s rejects.
Do any of you children know about the protests, both on and off campuses, of the 60's and 70's. Just wondering. What about participating in the Clemson campus protests of 1985 or early 1990's?
The entire situation in the Middle East and those against Israel in particular only makes sense to those who read and understand the Bible and the history of the people in this area. One side teaches its children from birth to hate and want to eliminate the other side (and they justify that based on instructions from their god), while the other side would prefer to live in peace with one another without wars and bloodshed. Unfortunately, this will continue until Jesus returns and then every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that He is Lord.
And George Soros will spend eternity in hell unless he finds Jesus and changes his life. I am confident in saying that.
And George Soros will spend eternity in hell unless he finds Jesus and changes his life. I am confident in saying that.
Protesters of all types are pussies. People fight and die overseas for this country so that these losers can menstruate over some bullshit cause that they know nothing about.
Palestinians would behead and execute these same bastards simply because they are liberal freaks
Palestinians would behead and execute these same bastards simply because they are liberal freaks
Right and I understand that, especially as it pertains to work and similar settings.
I just think we might want to be careful about curbing speech on college campuses. If there can’t be free and open dialog in that setting (and governmental settings, as well) then we might be doomed as a society.
Also, who gets to determine what is considered hateful speech? There are just too many pitfalls to limiting the 1st beyond what is already limited (yelling fire in a crowded theater).
Anyway, I’m very wary of limited freedom of any kind.
