Nashville shooting

[jakefest]

How long do you think it would take me to find some horrible things said by straight white males?

Plus, the site you're posting from is known to post unverified clips and many have accused them of making some of those clips themselves.

How Libs of TikTok Became an Anti-LGBTQ+ Hate Machine

The account has led to bomb threats against hospitals, death threats against teachers, and more.

www.them.us

That's great, post them and let's call them out. Your biggest issue is you think most of America supports a tiny fraction of people who probably are white supremacists.......none of us support hate, you seem really comfortable with it though.

Lolz, sure buddy. Anything that doesn't prove you right is a bullshit site per your own logic and historical posts.

 

[jakefest]

OK so military uses all sorts of semi-automatic guns. So which ones are we banning?

Amazingly a semi-automatic gun, whether it looks scary or not, only fires as fast as the trigger puller.

It is a liberal term that they coined and ran with.

Semi-auto = 90% of guns available to purchase on the retail market including handguns and even .22's

Almost every military weapon I ever used on any deployment was fully-auto optional meaning I could switch back and forth between semi and auto. Most of us didn't even use auto, we used semi to control fire rates and accuracy. They leave the full auto to the SAW (m240) gunner as that weapon is meant for fire suppression and heavy volume requirements.

The only reason anyone might call an AR15 an advantaged weapon is due to it being a pound or two lighter than your average rifle but that doesn't give you any advantage in a close quarters situation, no advantage at all. It only matters if you have to carry your weapon for hours at a time and fatigue becomes a factor.

So to recap, assault weapon = fully automatic........SAW stands for Squad Automatic Weapon. That's an assault weapon and has been the definition for decades. By trying to change it to semi-auto, it allows them to take more guns away.

 

[dpic73]

That's great, post them and let's call them out. Your biggest issue is you think most of America supports a tiny fraction of people who probably are white supremacists.......none of us support hate, you seem really comfortable with it though.

Lolz, sure buddy. Anything that doesn't prove you right is a bullshit site per your own logic and historical posts.

Who is using a thread about mass shootings to attack a tiny fraction of people in order to paint them all as being hateful, deranged terrorists? Funny how when straight white guys kill a bunch of students, you don't search the dark web for hateful things they say. Wonder why?

 

[jakefest]

It’s just fun to shoot. Nothing more, nothing less.

I think some folks coyote/pig hunt with them, but as I’ve said before, there’s really no need. The issue becomes the 30-50 round clips. Combine that with the ability to fire as quickly as a trigger is pulled, and you have the power to out gun someone else.

I find it odd these shooters carry ARs into the close quarters environments. The truth is, a high capacity shotgun is much more dangerous in those spaces.

This ^^^^^

It's an inferior weapon in close quarter scenarios

 

[jakefest]

Who is using a thread about mass shootings to attack a tiny fraction of people in order to paint them all as being hateful, deranged terrorists? Funny how when straight white guys kill a bunch of students, you don't search the dark web for hateful things they say. Wonder why?

What the f*ck are you talking about? I didn't need to search the web because we all agreed how horrible it was and not a single person defended the shooter. You're literally on here defending the shooter and the motives suggesting that Trans people have been targeted and hunted which is just a bunch of liberal, leftwing bullshit. You're blaming conservatives for the tragedy instead of blaming the unhinged shooter.......what a total disgrace.

Also, aren't the LGTBQ community supposed to be one of understanding and acceptance? I thought it was only hateful white men that killed people?

 

[flotiger]

I don't know. I have none of the answers, just ideas and thoughts.

I will say an answer to inner city violence and all of the things you described above is if, over the next 12 months, crime was prosecuted in this country to the max for a year and the discretion was removed from judges on sentencing, i.e. - you're convicted of a crime and you serve the max, violence would taper and society would be better off over the next 20 years, simply for that enforcement.

The problem is it takes more funding to operate more prisons. And most who want more people in prison will balk at actually paying for it. And we already have more people in prison per capita than any other country.

 

[dpic73]

What the f*ck are you talking about? I didn't need to search the web because we all agreed how horrible it was and not a single person defended the shooter. You're literally on here defending the shooter and the motives suggesting that Trans people have been targeted and hunted which is just a bunch of liberal, leftwing bullshit. You're blaming conservatives for the tragedy instead of blaming the unhinged shooter.......what a total disgrace.

Also, aren't the LGTBQ community supposed to be one of understanding and acceptance? I thought it was only hateful white men that killed people?

Of course you didn't need to search the web for the posts you shared because you follow the lowest scum on twitter, so they pop up immediately.

I'm not defending ANY mass shooters - NONE! They are all heinous animals and I don't have one shred of sympathy for them, you derangible.

What I oppose is your sickening attempt to change the focus from mass shootings to painting entire communities of vulnerable people as monsters. Because you desperately need to win a culture war, because you know the policies you support are so unpopular.

You're willfully blind if you say that community hasn't been targeted.

Florida GOP’s New Anti-Trans Bill Is So Extreme It Could Ban Treatment for Breast Cancer

The bill is one of the cruelest in the country targeting transgender people.

newrepublic.com

Texas’ Attempt to Tear Parents and Trans Youth Apart, One Year Later | ACLU

As our fight to keep families together continues in court, the persecution of transgender youth in Texas continues.

www.aclu.org

Kentucky's GOP-dominated legislature overrides veto; trans youth bill becomes law

On the first day back from the veto break, Kentucky's legislature is considering overriding a controversial transgender-related bill.

www.wlky.com

Tucker Carlson says trans movement "natural enemy" of Christianity

Carlson believes the trans movement is getting "militant and possibly dangerous" and said his fears were confirmed by the mass shooting in Nashville on Monday.

www.newsweek.com

 

[flotiger]

I knew what you were talking about but the issue is and the excuse they use is prison's are overcrowded. If not a sentence, immediate deportation. If sentenced to death, immediately put to death...

All max sentences do is overcrowd more and cost the American taxpayer more

Immediately put to death. Yeah because no one innocent is ever wrongly convicted

 

[nmerritt11]

Immediately put to death. Yeah because no one innocent is ever wrongly convicted

I’m being somewhat sarcastic but there are some that you do know for 100% fact did it

My point is we delay the inevitable a lot of the time

 

[TigerGrowls]

This is what we are dealing with. A congressional rep who is also mother of a self described trans person. This is speech is from this week.

 

[dpic73]

This is what we are dealing with. A congressional rep who is also mother of a self described trans person. This is speech is from this week.

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This has nothing to do with protecting a mass murderer you dingwad.
How long have you been providing cover for cop killing insurrectionists?

 

[Clemson Goat]

yes they are being used more and more for everything from deer, to elk, to higs, to coyotes, etc. Popularity of using an AR-15 in hunting has increased

Light weight, reliable, adjustable stock, etc. Might not be as accurate as some rifles but accurate enough. I think last number I saw that a report stated that 25-30% or so of hunters have used an AR-15 in some type of hunt.

But once again an AR-15 was not used in the shooting that this thread is about. Nor was an AK-47 which the POTUS reported in his presser

They had one but apparently this is what was used in the shootings

I have several friends that use an AR 15 to hunt deer and coyotes . I own a AR 15 22cal. With 50 round mags. to target practice. I don't think people are dumb enough to use a 22cal to attack with. I have no problem with banning a true fully automatic assault rifle. AR does not stand for assault rifle.

 

[jakefest]

Of course you didn't need to search the web for the posts you shared because you follow the lowest scum on twitter, so they pop up immediately.

I'm not defending ANY mass shooters - NONE! They are all heinous animals and I don't have one shred of sympathy for them, you derangible.

What I oppose is your sickening attempt to change the focus from mass shootings to painting entire communities of vulnerable people as monsters. Because you desperately need to win a culture war, because you know the policies you support are so unpopular.

You're willfully blind if you say that community hasn't been targeted.

Florida GOP’s New Anti-Trans Bill Is So Extreme It Could Ban Treatment for Breast Cancer

The bill is one of the cruelest in the country targeting transgender people.

newrepublic.com

Texas’ Attempt to Tear Parents and Trans Youth Apart, One Year Later | ACLU

As our fight to keep families together continues in court, the persecution of transgender youth in Texas continues.

www.aclu.org

Kentucky's GOP-dominated legislature overrides veto; trans youth bill becomes law

On the first day back from the veto break, Kentucky's legislature is considering overriding a controversial transgender-related bill.

www.wlky.com

Tucker Carlson says trans movement "natural enemy" of Christianity

Carlson believes the trans movement is getting "militant and possibly dangerous" and said his fears were confirmed by the mass shooting in Nashville on Monday.

www.newsweek.com

The only people painting anyone as monsters is the liberal left.......

 

[dbjork6317]

Just popping in to point out that there was another mass shooting in Tennessee last night. 7 people shot at a restaurant in Memphis.

No word yet on the gender identity of the shooter.

 

[dpic73]

The only people painting anyone as monsters is the liberal left.......

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What's wrong with what she said??

 

[dpic73]

Just popping in to point out that there was another mass shooting in Tennessee last night. 7 people shot at a restaurant in Memphis.

No word yet on the gender identity of the shooter.

As soon as you have word, please let us know so we'll know what community to demonize.

 

[jakefest]

As soon as you have word, please let us know so we'll know what community to demonize.

Here's one from March 14th......no media coverage......you know why? It was black on black and that happens every weekend In Memphis, Chicago, New Orleans, Atlanta, etc ......note how the media doesn't call that a "mass shooting"

Serious question, do you care about solving mass shootings or just the ones that involve AR15's and white, straight males?

Suspect arrested after shooting that killed 3 people in southwest Memphis

The shooting occurred on March 6 on Hillview Avenue at the Valley Forge Apartments.

www.actionnews5.com

 

[dpic73]

Here's one from March 14th......no media coverage......you know why? It was black on black and that happens every weekend In Memphis, Chicago, New Orleans, Atlanta, etc ......note how the media doesn't call that a "mass shooting"

Serious question, do you care about solving mass shootings or just the ones that involve AR15's and white, straight males?

Suspect arrested after shooting that killed 3 people in southwest Memphis

The shooting occurred on March 6 on Hillview Avenue at the Valley Forge Apartments.

www.actionnews5.com

It's obviously ALL of them since I have consistently advocated removing and banning guns - derp. I will go as far as we can go to get guns out of the hands of people that shouldn't have them but I'm also realistic about how far your side would be willing to go.

Are you mad that I'm not demonizing all young black men? Sorry, that's your wheelhouse.

 

[firegiver]

I’m sorry.. Wut?

It's truly hilarious

 

[AndersonTiger85]

As a Nashville resident, I ventured over to this board, admittedly, with eyes wide open that this would turn into a "do guns kill people or do people kill people" pile of trash---so not claiming victim here. I'm not sure how many of you political commentators have had a school shooting that hit your community before, but I can promise you it'll change your opinion on things--and to be clear, I didn't lose a family member, but my best man's wife lost her mentor, and separately and apart from the death I just mentioned, another one of my partners is having to explain to his daughter why she won't see her 9-year-old friend again. Only point of posting this is that I think an event like this in your community (versus just another headline) would change your views on things.

Also, those of you that posted some radical pro-trans post from some random person on social media and are using that to claim it's a mass leftist assault against us straight, white, Christian men---you can **** right off.

 

[dpic73]

 

[Clemson Goat]

Do we ban alcohol to stop people from killing others ? Or ban vehicle's ? DUI laws apparently are not working . One every 52 minutes killed.

2022 Drunk Driving Statistics | Bankrate

Alcohol has long been known as a roadway killer. It can start with a single drink, but then there’s the thought of just one more, and all too quickly, reason and responsibility are abandoned. All it takes is a split-second delay in reaction, and the consequences of driving drunk can be utterly...

www.bankrate.com

 

[WapPride]

-The Colorado Springs shooter identified as non binary.
- The Denver shooter identified as trans.
-The Aberdeen shooter identified as trans.
-The Nashville shooter identified as trans.
Trans people make up 1m of the population.......that would indicate a rise, no?

Non-binary != trans.
I can't find anything about Austin Lyle being trans.

Also, do you think maybe that the increased vitriol and demonization against this group of people by those on the right may have something to do with this perceived rise in violence? Even if you want to consider the colorado springs and denver shooters as trans, that's still only 4 instances over the course of the previous 2800+ mass shootings in this country?

 

[DividedPi]

I've come to believe there is no amount of children that could be gunned down at school that would make this country actually embrace meaningful gun control. At this point children getting shot and killed at school as quintessentially American as apple pie, baseball and the Fourth of July. It's become part of who we are as a country.

 

[Willence]

It's already been shown to work before, so why not do the things you mention above plus a ban? We can't keep nibbling around the edges here. It could be your kids next - do you or do you not want to do everything in your power to protect them or do you only want to use half measures?


Red line is when the Assault Weapons ban expired

What's interesting is a lot of that timeline has to do with the advent of social media and smartphones. But of course it must be the guns that have corrupted everyone caused all this violence. Just unbelievable some of the things people put forth to try to defend their narratives without looking it all the facts in reality as they exist. I mean it's not as though social media is causing depression amongst our team population of record rates either. Can't be a problem at all. Those nasty guns just keep corrupting people.

 

[dpic73]

What's interesting is a lot of that timeline has to do with the advent of social media and smartphones. But of course it must be the guns that have corrupted everyone caused all this violence. Just unbelievable some of the things people put forth to try to defend their narratives without looking it all the facts in reality as they exist. I mean it's not as though social media is causing depression amongst our team population of record rates either. Can't be a problem at all. Those nasty guns just keep corrupting people.

How many people were killed by social media and smartphones? It's the GUNS

 

[Willence]

How many people were killed by social media and smartphones? It's the GUNS

Tens of thousands via the influence associated with it. You know this but you'll never say it. Kinda sad but demonstrative of your usual tactics to throw shade at realities you don't care for.

 

[jakefest]

Non-binary != trans.
I can't find anything about Austin Lyle being trans.

Also, do you think maybe that the increased vitriol and demonization against this group of people by those on the right may have something to do with this perceived rise in violence? Even if you want to consider the colorado springs and denver shooters as trans, that's still only 4 instances over the course of the previous 2800+ mass shootings in this country?

4 incidents, in a short amount of time and out of a very limited subset of the population……the start of a trend? Maybe, .maybe not but certainly seems
To be more than there were in prior years, no?

What do you think the media is creating right now by glorifying the shooter? Look no further than vitriol ……

 

[dpic73]

Tens of thousands via the influence associated with it. You know this but you'll never say it. Kinda sad but demonstrative of your usual tactics to throw shade at realities you don't care for.

< checks other countries that also have social media and smartphones >

Nope, it's still the GUNS

 

[WapPride]

4 incidents, in a short amount of time and out of a very limited subset of the population……the start of a trend? Maybe, .maybe not but certainly seems
To be more than there were in prior years, no?

What do you think the media is creating right now by glorifying the shooter? Look no further than vitriol ……

Once again, it’s not 4 - it’s more accurately 2. Unless you want to say using different pronouns is the same as being trans, then it’s just two incidents. However, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say it’s 4 instances. Claiming 4 instances over 6 years is the start of a trend is pretty accurately fear mongering, and something I wouldn’t agree with.

Idk about anyone glorifying the shooter, but I’m open to be educated on that claim. Saying that the trans community is going to be under attack following this tragedy, which is completely true, is not the same as glorifying the shooter.

 

[jakefest]

Once again, it’s not 4 - it’s more accurately 2. Unless you want to say using different pronouns is the same as being trans, then it’s just two incidents. However, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say it’s 4 instances. Claiming 4 instances over 6 years is the start of a trend is pretty accurately fear mongering, and something I wouldn’t agree with.

Idk about anyone glorifying the shooter, but I’m open to be educated on that claim. Saying that the trans community is going to be under attack following this tragedy, which is completely true, is not the same as glorifying the shooter.

I guess an NHL player or two not agreeing to wear a pride jersey is genocide these days........sigh. A bunch of concerned parents that felt like their 3rd graders shouldn't be exposed to gender specific topics isn't an attack, it's a concerned parent that would like for their children to at least get past puberty before they have to make a decision about who they are. Again, that's not an attack on anyone.....

By not calling the shooter a mentally ill, psychopath......you're glorifying the shooter. Google "transgender mass shooting"......every article talks about how Trans people are under attack, not one that talks about her manifesto or why she was unhinged.

 

[WapPride]

I guess an NHL player or two not agreeing to wear a pride jersey is genocide these days........sigh. A bunch of concerned parents that felt like their 3rd graders shouldn't be exposed to gender specific topics isn't an attack, it's a concerned parent that would like for their children to at least get past puberty before they have to make a decision about who they are. Again, that's not an attack on anyone.....

By not calling the shooter a mentally ill, psychopath......you're glorifying the shooter. Google "transgender mass shooting"......every article talks about how Trans people are under attack, not one that talks about her manifesto or why she was unhinged.

Idk what nhl jerseys/class room shit has to do with anything, but that wasn’t what I was inferring when I said the trans community is/will be under attack. I’m talking the increase in vitriolic language coming out from the right regarding the trans community, and this act being perpetrated by a member of that group is absolutely going to cause backlash on the group as a whole. History hs shown anytime a person from a marginalized, or “different”, group commits an atrocious act, idiots end up lashing out at the innocents of said group.

It’s also not like articles can’t, or haven’t, been saying that both the perpetrator was mentally troubled and that this event will likely lead to violence against the lgbtq community.

 

[jakefest]

Idk what nhl jerseys/class room shit has to do with anything, but that wasn’t what I was inferring when I said the trans community is/will be under attack. I’m talking the increase in vitriolic language coming out from the right regarding the trans community, and this act being perpetrated by a member of that group is absolutely going to cause backlash on the group as a whole. History hs shown anytime a person from a marginalized, or “different”, group commits an atrocious act, idiots end up lashing out at the innocents of said group.

It’s also not like articles can’t, or haven’t, been saying that both the perpetrator was mentally troubled and that this event will likely lead to violence against the lgbtq community.

Stop making the shooter out to be the victim. Three children and three teachers were the victims.

Media is doing that ^^^^^^^^^

 

[jakefest]

Totally outrageous to create a "holiday" a week after children were targeted and shot in a school by a Transgender with a vendetta.......and you folks think conservative America is making this political? Worst admin ever......ever. It was never enough to simply accept Transgender into society, the left had to enforce pronoun adoption, and drag shows for kids, gender studies in schools etc and then when people finally started to push back, liberals start claiming they are being targeted. Amazing effort by the liberal controlled media to create this and usual stupidity by a big portion of Americans to believe it.

A Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility | The White House

Transgender Day of Visibility celebrates the joy, strength, and absolute courage of some of the bravest people I know -- people who

www.whitehouse.gov

NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim March 31, 2023, as Transgender Day of Visibility. I call upon all Americans to join us in lifting up the lives and voices of transgender people throughout our Nation and to work toward eliminating violence and discrimination against all transgender, gender nonconforming, and nonbinary people.

 

[WapPride]

Stop making the shooter out to be the victim. Three children and three teachers were the victims.

Media is doing that ^^^^^^^^^

The media is making the shooter out to be the victim? Can you provide some articles from credible news outlets that is making the shooter out to be the victim and not the 3 children and teachers that were killed?

 

[dpic73]

Totally outrageous to create a "holiday" a week after children were targeted and shot in a school by a Transgender with a vendetta.......and you folks think conservative America is making this political? Worst admin ever......ever. It was never enough to simply accept Transgender into society, the left had to enforce pronoun adoption, and drag shows for kids, gender studies in schools etc and then when people finally started to push back, liberals start claiming they are being targeted. Amazing effort by the liberal controlled media to create this and usual stupidity by a big portion of Americans to believe it.

A Proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility | The White House

Transgender Day of Visibility celebrates the joy, strength, and absolute courage of some of the bravest people I know -- people who

www.whitehouse.gov

NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim March 31, 2023, as Transgender Day of Visibility. I call upon all Americans to join us in lifting up the lives and voices of transgender people throughout our Nation and to work toward eliminating violence and discrimination against all transgender, gender nonconforming, and nonbinary people.

Sigh, you are a lunatic

 

[jakefest]

The media is making the shooter out to be the victim? Can you provide some articles from credible news outlets that is making the shooter out to be the victim and not the 3 children and teachers that were killed?

The shooter was a transgender lunatic that targeted Christian children and look at all of the articles trying to protect her/him and the act by focusing on how the right are going to attack Transgender people. Imagine if media had said the same about the Buffalo shooter and how the incident might bring hate on the white supremacist community? There's no material difference.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/03/30/nashville-shooting-transgender-shooter/

Nashville shooting exploited by right to escalate anti-trans rhetoric - The Boston Globe

The attempts on the right to connect violence to transgender people come even though transgender people are rarely the perpetrators of mass shootings, which are overwhelmingly carried out by cisgender men, according to criminal justice experts.

www.bostonglobe.com

‘Desperate and bigoted’: US right uses latest shooting to malign trans people

From hateful rants on Fox news to falsehoods in Congress, the far right is exploiting the Nashville shooting, experts warn

www.theguardian.com

The Right Is Using the Nashville Shooting to Declare War on Trans People

“It has been an online barrage towards basically any visible trans person online.”

www.vice.com

The Far Right Is Exploiting the Nashville Tragedy to Promote Transphobia

As soon as it became known that the shooter may have identified as trans, the right-wing media outrage ecosystem went to work.

www.advocate.com

Right-Wing Ghouls Are Already Using the Nashville Shooting To Demonize Trans People

Right-wing reactionary figures latched onto what they want to believe is the reason, motive, and cause for mass murder.

www.themarysue.com

"Speculation about the shooters gender identity" (Lolz, what the actual f*ck)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nashville-shooting-transgender-rights-1.6797599

 

[jakefest]

Sigh, you are a lunatic

3 children killed in a targeted hate crime and your only concern is the trans community, yet I'm the lunatic?

 

[dpic73]

3 children killed in a targeted hate crime and your only concern is the trans community, yet I'm the lunatic?

Yes, you are. What is the most important trait about that shooter? Is it that they're evil and mentally unstable or is that they're trans?

If a straight white person shoots up a classroom, can we not talk about, let's say, the weaponization of the government against white consevatives, as an example? After all, how dare we talk about the plight of white conservatives after one just shot up a school! We should be outraged at all straight white conservatives!! White conservatives are murderers after all!

I just can't with you

 

[WapPride]

The shooter was a transgender lunatic that targeted Christian children and look at all of the articles trying to protect her/him and the act by focusing on how the right are going to attack Transgender people. Imagine if media had said the same about the Buffalo shooter and how the incident might bring hate on the white supremacist community? There's no material difference.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/03/30/nashville-shooting-transgender-shooter/

Nashville shooting exploited by right to escalate anti-trans rhetoric - The Boston Globe

The attempts on the right to connect violence to transgender people come even though transgender people are rarely the perpetrators of mass shootings, which are overwhelmingly carried out by cisgender men, according to criminal justice experts.

www.bostonglobe.com

‘Desperate and bigoted’: US right uses latest shooting to malign trans people

From hateful rants on Fox news to falsehoods in Congress, the far right is exploiting the Nashville shooting, experts warn

www.theguardian.com

The Right Is Using the Nashville Shooting to Declare War on Trans People

“It has been an online barrage towards basically any visible trans person online.”

www.vice.com

The Far Right Is Exploiting the Nashville Tragedy to Promote Transphobia

As soon as it became known that the shooter may have identified as trans, the right-wing media outrage ecosystem went to work.

www.advocate.com

Right-Wing Ghouls Are Already Using the Nashville Shooting To Demonize Trans People

Right-wing reactionary figures latched onto what they want to believe is the reason, motive, and cause for mass murder.

www.themarysue.com

"Speculation about the shooters gender identity" (Lolz, what the actual f*ck)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/nashville-shooting-transgender-rights-1.6797599

I haven't read the shooter's manifesto, nor do i know if it's been released yet, but did they explicitly say they wanted to target solely Christian children? Or was that school targeted because they were a former student at that school and that's why it was chosen?

I skimmed through the articles you mentioned, and none were painting the shooter as a victim. Are you upset the articles aren't talking about what you feel is a danger that Christians now have to worry about from the trans community?

FYI, the white supremacist community deserves hate, the transgender community does not.