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**New** (Paul) Clemson's QB Search Underway: The Candidates

The problem I have with the list is it seems like its just of Tis opinion who they could call. Not what has or might actually happen
Did you read the part about them wanting to do it under the radar?
 
No I agree. I was just saying I didn't read it as inside information on who we will reach out to its more so who we could reach out to.

Fair- but we also just lost the QB last night. I'm sure they haven't even discussed who the next "guy(s)" are.

I think this article was about that, of guys we could see get the next offer(s). Don't know if they would just pursue 1 guy, or pursue 2 guys to create more of a sense of urgency vs being passive and wondering if we can flip a guy.
 
Is the "no tamper rule" in effect for these "committed" prospects? We all know the word "commitment" means absolutely nothing now, so...

How does Clemson "recruit" these commits behind the scenes?
 
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I'm not too big on Woods. A lot of times the ball goes where it needs to, but he just looks goofy doing it. He just doesn't look super crisp, throws off his back foot, jumps into throws etc

I think Will Wilson is much more smooth as an athlete. Higher floor and can at least provide some utility if he doesn't blossom as a passer. I guess the downside is that his body is probably close to being maxed out so people aren't super enamored by what he "could" be.
 
Main thing is we need to keep the three that we've got."

Clemson needs to hold on to Vizzina. As he gets more snaps and shows the capability to direct a complex offense, that makes him more attractive than a 4* highschool senior. Look no further than Ohio State who has multiple 5* quarterbacks on the roster but is starting a senior transfer.
 
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I know this will probably never happen. But....

....Dayton redshirt freshman Drew VanVleet is having a pretty good start to the season. 6'5", won a state championship in high school.

Name College ClassQB GamesAttemptsCompletionsINTYardsTouchdownsEfficiency
Drew VanVleetDaytonFr.QB5143934109212151.28
 
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Probably in Tier 2.

Not sure i'd say he's definitively better than any of these guys. Which isn't a bad thing, just think there's maybe 1-2 "flaws" for a lack of a better term right now. Tier 2 I think your happy with any of the guys chosen for different reasons.

Baker seems like a massive upgrade over Hebert, and a guy who looks like he can be "the guy" at some point at Clemson.

TBH- I haven't watched the Duke guy yet, but Paul seemed to like him a bunch.
I saw the Duke kid at the same camp @Paul Strelow did. Kid definitely put on a show
 
I'm not too big on Woods. A lot of times the ball goes where it needs to, but he just looks goofy doing it. He just doesn't look super crisp, throws off his back foot, jumps into throws etc

I think Will Wilson is much more smooth as an athlete. Higher floor and can at least provide some utility if he doesn't blossom as a passer. I guess the downside is that his body is probably close to being maxed out so people aren't super enamored by what he "could" be.
Kid may be goofy looking to you but he appears to be a winner. I don't follow high school football but as far as I know they are undefeated this year and won the state championship last year with Woods under center.
 
Baker is who I am pulling for as I think he is a differential talent and he would start for us one day. But I gotta stick up for my guy Cutter because of some of the above comments.

2023: MaxPreps South Carolina Player of the Year. Led Westside to a 14-1 record and a Class AAAA state title, marking the program’s first since 1969. Completed 220 of 317 passes (69.4%) for 3,915 yards with 42 TD and 8 INT. Ran for 345 yards with 5 TD while averaging 6.8 YPC.
2022: Posted a 10-3 record as a junior at Westside. Completed 180 of 264 passes (68.2%) for 3,013 yards with 28 TD and 5 INT. Also ran for 232 yards and 4 TD while averaging 4.7 YPC.
2021: Played as a freshman at Eastside. Completed 80 of 155 passes (51.6%) for 827 yards with 7 TD and 7 INT per MaxPreps. Also ran for a TD.

🤷🏽 Not sure what better numbers he could put up against decent competition. I haven’t seen his senior numbers as yet
 
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Kid may be goofy looking to you but he appears to be a winner. I don't follow high school football but as far as I know they are undefeated this year and won the state championship last year with Woods under center.
Any high school kid with D1 offers is a winner and good athlete. I'm not putting the kid down, but we're looking for a guy who can help us win championships at the power conference level. I just don't think Cutter Woods is that kind of guy.
 
@Paul Strelow, please explain this to me like I'm a five-year old. If we have already lost our committed QB because we wouldn't match an offer made by another school and if QB is a premium position to be begin with, how in the world are we going to snag one of these guys from another P4 school? Wouldn't they just match or beat any offer we are likely to make? I'm having a hard time seeing how this works.
The Catholic church is the largest private landowner in the world. They own 177 million acres of land.

There are 71 million Catholics in the United States. The vast majority of them have some allegiance to Notre Dame.

Clemson didn't lose Hebert to just anyone.
 
Unc is very worried about Baker and the rest of this class starting to blow up with the uncertainty of coaching staff next year and there dismal season .

Fwiw .UNC is very nervous that Clemson is going to go hard after Baker for a visit to Clemson asap .
 
Unc is very worried about Baker and the rest of this class starting to blow up with the uncertainty of coaching staff next year and there dismal season .

Fwiw .UNC is very nervous that Clemson is going to go hard after Baker for a visit to Clemson asap .
I am very supportive of them having an actual reason to be nervous. What a turn of events that would be.
 
I know this will probably never happen. But....

....Dayton redshirt freshman Drew VanVleet is having a pretty good start to the season. 6'5", won a state championship in high school.

Name College ClassQBGamesAttemptsCompletionsINTYardsTouchdownsEfficiency
Drew VanVleetDaytonFr.QB5143934109212151.28

Good find. Afraid that’s like wishing to see a mermaid or unicorn.
 
@Paul Strelow, please explain this to me like I'm a five-year old. If we have already lost our committed QB because we wouldn't match an offer made by another school and if QB is a premium position to be begin with, how in the world are we going to snag one of these guys from another P4 school? Wouldn't they just match or beat any offer we are likely to make? I'm having a hard time seeing how this works.
Because these guys are at lower profile schools with coaching issues. Mack already "threatened" to retire and he's probably out after this season. Purdue's OC got fired and their HC is probably toast. I could see wanting to jump from Duke to Clemson. NC State is struggling big time this year and have a true freshman starting. Beamer's situation at South Carolina probably isn't the best either
 
The Catholic church is the largest private landowner in the world. They own 177 million acres of land.

There are 71 million Catholics in the United States. The vast majority of them have some allegiance to Notre Dame.

Clemson didn't lose Hebert to just anyone.
The vast majority absolutely don't have allegiances to Notre Dame and for purposes of property ownership (amongst other things) each diocese is its own legal entity
 
The vast majority absolutely don't have allegiances to Notre Dame and for purposes of property ownership (amongst other things) each diocese is its own legal entity
But the Notre Dame Endowment is 20 times larger than Clemson's Endowment and has less than half the undergrad enrollment.
 
"Recruiting is relational", uhh, how many times are we going to hear this? It may be in some cases but the further we get into the world of NIL, the less valid this claim becomes. Relationships opens doors, finding agreeable terms and conditions closes deals. The point where deals are reached have moved far away from the area where Dabo is accustomed and something has to give.

Right now is it not reasonable to believe Clemson will be able to continue to recruit at a high enough level to maintain program performance over the next 5 years. NIL will do to Clemson what Hatfield did after Ford was fired, unless something changes quickly.
All things being equal it does, but we ain’t talking equal anymore.
 
Is the "no tamper rule" in effect for these "committed" prospects? We all know the word "commitment" means absolutely nothing now, so...

How does Clemson "recruit" these commits behind the scenes?
No tampering has to do with enrolled players. None of these guys are enrolled. May not offer until they decommit, but we will be talking with any or all of them.
 
How does Clemson "recruit" these commits behind the scenes?
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Baker looks decently athletic. Honestly I want him most because I feel like our class desperately needs some momentum and getting a “Top 100” QB would help with that perception. But also just to take him from UNC. They don’t deserve nice things.
 
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The Catholic church is the largest private landowner in the world. They own 177 million acres of land.

There are 71 million Catholics in the United States. The vast majority of them have some allegiance to Notre Dame.

Clemson didn't lose Hebert to just anyone.
The Catholic church is the largest private landowner in the world. They own 177 million acres of land.

There are 71 million Catholics in the United States. The vast majority of them have some allegiance to Notre Dame.

Clemson didn't lose Hebert to just anyone.
Agreed the Catholic pull is larger than folks are seeing! The kid is not only Catholic but a large # of kids from his school go to ND! As scholarship, walk-on & just academically. Not to mention he was probably not an option for them while they had the 4 star kid that just flipped to Aub! Sure the money played a role, but there are tons of connections to ND.
 
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