Ohio Gov. John Kasich on Urban Meyer: 'I hope he can get his reputation back'
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Oh I agree 100% but neither of them are republicans and have everyone working against them. I'll bet the MSM wasn't reporting on Kerry and Obama 24/7 in a negative light. Folks just need to be able to sift through the details themselves rather than taking some MSM lackey's word. I'm more interested to see if Cohen tries to bring Trump into it. Trump is a billionaire and I'm sure, even if what is reported is true (that Trump reimbursed Cohen for the payments via Cohen billing him for services rendered), that that small amount of $ wasn't much to him and he didn't even think twice about it. I'm sure Cohen did some type of legal work for Trump in 2017 or 2016 when these were reportedly billed as services rendered.
Correct. However, it is still a campaign finance violation. which is what they are hanging Cohen for now and what they think will be enough to take down Trump. I don't believe it is enough. This was an investigation into Russian collusion to rig an American election and they are throwing the book at two Trump campers in hopes that it will cause an admission of russian collusion. They have nothing on Trump and I am sorry it upsets you so.
Lmao. Rage? I see discussion taking place, asking, mostly politely, for evidence to your commentary. yet the only triggered replies appear to be coming from you. Reverting to ‘libtards’, calling, presumably, anyone who challenges you, rightly or wrongly, a ‘liberal’. ‘Hillary lost, get over it’ conotates more rage than anything else I’ve read.
And I’m probably considered a conservative by most, on the whole. I just make an effort to look beyond my own nose.
I don't think anyone is taking part in "polite discussion" when they can't even take a moment to read my original comment without getting so embroiled that they didn't understand the post.
Hillary did lose. It is the cardinal sin that Trump has committed and the only reason he is being attacked by MSM and the democratic party. everything else is just dressing for the libtard camp.
"Hillary Lost, get over it" isn't just a low blow. It is completely relevant to what is going on right now with the Mueller case.
Thought the Thread dealt with Urban not Trump. Please take the political BS to another Forum.
Boy oh boy--you don't understand how these investigations work. You get people to flip to give up the good stuff, the best dirt.
You can't think of the Manafort trials as separate--it is one big thing. The first is to nail him as a felon--job done and then the second trial continues to apply pressure so he will cooperate. The angle there is and has always been the Trump Tower meeting. Gravy is just if he helps with Russian, Ukrainian, oligarch knowledge/ties. Just one prong. And for the record he was with the campaign from March 29th to August 19th.
Cohen named in open court the sitting president as a co-conspirator to break the law. If he lied to the court he is looking at maximum jail time and Cohen provides documentation to support the magic word--intent. Cohen also knows about the Trump Tower meeting--or was it meetings plural Guiliani--along with more tape recordings...
I remember when republicans, evangelicals, and conservatives cared about morality with their leaders and impeached not for a crime but to cleanse and maintain the dignity of the office of the presidency. Sad.
You can whine and cry all you want about how “close” mueller is to getting what he wants on Trump. He won’t. I’m sorry.
I never said Trump wasn’t morally corrupt or destined for hell. I just said he won’t be removed from office and there is no russian collusion which was the point of the investigation in the first place. They are grasping at straws by declaring victory in a russian collusion investigation by taking down two guys on tax fraud. It is, in reality, a loss for mueller.
Also, pleas feel free to name a politician with a shot at the presidency that is morally righteous. They are all bad.
actually i watch one america news and i am not a "libtard" or a never trumper.
I'm just explaining how these investigations work. Not whining at all. I hope that the investigation clears the president of any wrong doing--but the goal of the special counsel is to protect the presidency--getting rid of bad actors, felons connected to the campaign or hanging on and trying to influence the president or the office is really, really important.
People should cheer every time the rule of law is allowed to play out here...
I don't understand how a meeting at TRUMP TOWER is considered grasping at straws. Remember Trump "I love it" Jr?? That must be fully investigated...
The problem here is that Trump like Cohen and Manafort and others in his orbit have plenty of skeletons in the closet with his business, which is why he won't let it go forward without trying to tear down everything.
(I also remember a time when a special investigator jumped from real estate and financial dealings to unbecoming behavior in the WH, but I digress)
once Trump gets indicted, can't wait to see if the myopic old white men chant
LOCK HIM UP!
Again...what is with the racism. Is there something wrong with being white? Are you under the misconception that only “old white men” were the reason Trump was elected into office?
how is my use of the term "white" racist and your buffoon president's use of the terms Mexican rapists, Mexican judge, shit hole countries, Pocohantas......is not?
take a lap with your walker angry old white man
You said “whiter” as if that was a negative term. You don’t have to be racist to combat things you don’t agree with. Grow up man.
not a racist, just a conservative who is ashamed that a profane infantile inarticulate orange spray tanned reality tv star is president
LOL @Cris_Ard had to move his own post to the Roundtable bc it got wayyyy off subject
That has to be a first
That has to be a first
Yeah. Cohen is the bigger deal by far. I don't think Manafort was ever too close to Trump or really in the guts of the campaign.
You are a racist. Don’t hate white people because of Trump or your short comings. If you don’t like the way things are than you can vote and become engaged in the political process. Don’t portray “whiteness” as inherently evil just because you are too embedded in your victimhood status to engage in discussion.
Well that President of yours is doing alot to benefit you, a conservative, in many fronts. More than Obama ever did in many ways.
don't hate white people, only those that voted for the crotch grabber trump and are proud of it (not the ones that held their nose and voted trump because the other terrible choice offered up by the Democrats).
I am engaged in the political process - two terrible main party choices in 2016, so voted for the libertarian
voted Romney 2012
voted McCain in 2008
voted Bush 2004 2000
voted Dole 1996
voted Bush in 1992
voted Bush in 1988
was not old enough to vote in 1984, but would have vote Reagan
sorry that does not fit with labeling all never trumpers libtards. sorry to have triggered your angry old whiteness
So why is the president so deferential to a guy convicted of tax evasion and bank fraud. Is that what upstanding Americans do? And while THIS trial may not have directly had implications for the President, the next one will because it will focus on Manafort's ties to Ukraine and Russian interests.
And then we have Cohen, his personal attorney.
Isn't it amazing what a bad run of luck Trump has had picking people around him? Cohen, Manafort, Flynn, Pruitt, Price. And isn't it interesting that the 2 members of Congress first out of the box to support Trump have been indicted on serious federal charges - indicted by a Republican Department of Justice.
Lots of “Swamp Drainers” convicted or indicted, and the scab is just now coming off the infected puss filled sore.
Lol at voting for a bellicose crotch grabbing juvenile reality tv star to “Make America Great Again”
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Again...nothing anyone has done has shown any ties to the Trump campaign or Trump himself. But hey, keep drinking your blue kool-aid.
Maybe you were just asleep yesterday.
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