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On my first mask free flight in 2+ years

The data as all in a lab based on perfect conditions.

It did very little if anything in reality.

States with mask mandates had the same infection rates (actually higher) than States with no mandates.

If you look at the 7 day rolling average, infection rates did not change at all when mandates where put in and ended.


Believe whatever you want, it doesn't impact me, you can keep wearing your mask if you want.
Interesting that the infection rate this month alone, more folks are catching Covid who have been vaccinated verses the non-vaccinated folks, rate not even close.
 
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On average, the daily case incidence per 100,000 people in masked counties compared with unmasked counties declined by 25 percent at four weeks, 35 percent at six weeks, and 18 percent across six weeks postintervention.


Oh, and if masks don't help, someone should really let these guys know.

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Oh cool. Study from 2020 when there was an actual pandemic, minimal immunity and no vaccines.

What about here in 2022 when most are vaccinated, plenty have natural immunity and the virus has weakened considerably?

Shall we mask up each cold and flu season going forward? Lol.

BTW, enjoying being mask free in your blessed city right now. 90% of the other folks in the skyclub enjoying it as well. I would say there was a 15% mask rate on my flight here.
 
On average, the daily case incidence per 100,000 people in masked counties compared with unmasked counties declined by 25 percent at four weeks, 35 percent at six weeks, and 18 percent across six weeks postintervention.


Oh, and if masks don't help, someone should really let these guys know.

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Was this before or after Faucci said there was no reason for the public to be walking around in a mask?
 
But somehow you are aware of unknown long term risks of the vax, interesting.

Yeah, after consulting with my doctor. I trust what the experts tell me, because I'm not a doctor. Heck, I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

This shit really isn't as deep as people who pretend to know more than they really do want it to be.
 
No Ron. That information has been banned because it's "false". It's very dangerous to spread such lies, therefore even when the science changes, we should not discuss it.

I remember when it was all conspiracy theory. When it was "dangerous" to spread such information. Man, those covid threads would be an interesting read about now.

Nobody likes admitting they were duped. It's easier to pretend they didn't know it wasn't from a bat. They didn't know it leaked from a lab. Fauci never funded it. China did on accident. Pure coincidence in was during an election year. It certainly wasn't an act of war. Remember when the media told us that? Remember when getting boosters was a conspiracy?

They were only trying to save lives. If you believe differently you should be banned from any social media. It's too dangerous to allow people to feel that way.

This is so old news though... Hey look!!! Ukraine!
I remember stating much of this in early-mid 2020, and I was called many colorful names here on TI.

It was such a calculated/exaggerated, devious plan.
 
Oh cool. Study from 2020 when there was an actual pandemic, minimal immunity and no vaccines.

What about here in 2022 when most are vaccinated, plenty have natural immunity and the virus has weakened considerably?

Shall we mask up each cold and flu season going forward? Lol.

BTW, enjoying being mask free in your blessed city right now. 90% of the other folks in the skyclub enjoying it as well. I would say there was a 15% mask rate on my flight here.

I am not arguing that we should wear masks now. I don't (except yesterday when I was asked to put one on in a hospital). The other poster said there was no science to support mask wearing, I just provided the data and science.
 
It’s not like the OP said I love not wearing a mask in a mandated area. It’s within regulation that he doesn’t have to anymore. He’s not saying that you can’t continue to wear one. Why the vitriol? Just odd to me.
 
I remember stating much of this in early-mid 2020, and I was called many colorful names here on TI.

It was such a calculated/exaggerated, devious plan.
I don’t understand this post. Do you think you’ve been vindicated or proven right or something? It was a stupid conspiracy theory when you posted it then and it’s a stupid conspiracy theory now.
 
Freedom? Give me a damn break

Being a bunch of snowflakes because its required to wear a mask in a very confined space. No, its called dont be an asshole during a worldwide pandemic.
It's my freedom to put myself into that confined space and it's also my freedom to avoid it if I'm uncomfortable. Don't be a sheep. Think for yourself and don't buy everything Fauci tells you.
 
Saying it was/is an exaggerated plan is no conspiracy theory.

Do you still believe it came from bats?
Espousing the idea that members of the US government worked with China to create a virus in a lab in order to implement a global pandemic event for political reasons is, quite literally, a conspiracy theory.
 
So the entire ordeal wasn’t exaggerated?

Let’s start there.
I’d say that’s pretty subjective. To my mind, nearly a million dead Americans is pretty significant and it’s not too much to ask people to wear a piece of cloth on their face to try to stop that, nor is it unprecedented.
 
So the entire ordeal wasn’t exaggerated?

Let’s start there.

Yea man, makes total sense. All of the developed countries of the world - most of which had tougher COVID restrictions than we did - all did it just to spite trump. They wrecked their economies, put their political careers at risk, etc., just to make sure the democrats in the US would win.

You nailed it buddy!
 
I’d say that’s pretty subjective. To my mind, nearly a million dead Americans is pretty significant and it’s not too much to ask people to wear a piece of cloth on their face to try to stop that, nor is it unprecedented.

That’s pretty hilarious were you suggest 1 million people actually died from Covid. The Director of the CDC flat out said it was unlikely all those deaths were because of Covid. Should I link the article with quotes?
 
That’s pretty hilarious were you suggest 1 million people actually died from Covid. The Director of the CDC flat out said it was unlikely all those deaths were because of Covid. Should I link the article with quotes?
Yes.
 
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Yea man, makes total sense. All of the developed countries of the world - most of which had tougher COVID restrictions than we did - all did it just to spite trump. They wrecked their economies, put their political careers at risk, etc., just to make sure the democrats in the US would win.

You nailed it buddy!
You might want to go sit in the corner.


Haha
 
You might want to go sit in the corner.


Haha

you are changing the subject because I destroyed - no, obliterated - your sophomoric conspiratorial argument.

Be better.
 
House of politics.
Surgical masks are for prevention of bacterial wound and body cavity infections in the OR. Interestingly they make no difference at all in that. Brave souls have studied it. But we will continue to wear them in the OR. Who wants blood, bile, or shit in his or her mouth?
So what good do the masks do in the OR? It’s very interesting. If an OR team member has a respiratory illness (see cold,flu, and almost certainly Covid) it reduces spread to other OR personnel quite effectively. Not completely. That has clearly been shown. Anything spread via droplets, which is the way all respiratory viruses spread. Masks do ameliorate the spread of Covid. Just not as well as we like. Early on there was nothing else and it was a deadlier bug. Now, meh.

Talk about something almost useless against Covid: increased hand hygiene. Covid doesn’t spread that way and even the CDC said early on all that extra wipe down crap doesn’t do much.
 
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I think it's up to the airport. I did not wear one at CHS or LGA. I fly to MCO Wednesday. JFK and Paris and Faro the following week. Not sure how Europe is handling it.
I know the UK lifted masking requirements quite some time ago in all public trans settings. Has been up to the individual since end of last year maybe or Jan this year.
 
I'm with this guy. Keep up the mask-urade.
 
I’m wrong about this being so wrong, it’s this funny?

I think he is probably referring to you taking a year-long break from the site for being utterly wrong about the 2020 election. That's probably why you still push conspiracies that the global COVID response was all to get Trump out of office.
 
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I think he is probably referring to you taking a year-long break from the site for being utterly wrong about the 2020 election. That's probably why you still push conspiracies that the global COVID response was all to get Trump out of office.
You’ve got a long way to go. I’d continue sitting this out, if I were you. 😂

On second thought, keep ‘em coming. Too much fun.
 
It’s like I’ve gone back in time to a period of barbaric face muzzling.

AirFrance still requires masks. And even worse, they flagged my high breathability version and require a “surgical mask.” These French pansies.

And @nytigerfan and @jakefest you fellas need to get your backward city in line. Masks still required in JFK (though a third of people weren’t wearing one and nobody said anything).
 
It’s like I’ve gone back in time to a period of barbaric face muzzling.

AirFrance still requires masks. And even worse, they flagged my high breathability version and require a “surgical mask.” These French pansies.

And @nytigerfan and @jakefest you fellas need to get your backward city in line. Masks still required in JFK (though a third of people weren’t wearing one and nobody said anything).
Had no idea JFK still required masks, more reason to fly out of Newark despite it being a crappier airport. I typically avoid JFK regardless as it's a massive pain to get to for me but for London trips, they have more options.

So avoid any trips to France is what you're saying?
 
Had no idea JFK still required masks, more reason to fly out of Newark despite it being a crappier airport. I typically avoid JFK regardless as it's a massive pain to get to for me but for London trips, they have more options.

So avoid any trips to France is what you're saying?

I guess it’s just the heathens in the city limits that are living in the dark ages of mask mandates. JFK and LGA are both like this, as are Uber rides.

Heck I’m just passing through Paris. Still have to mask up for a 7 hour flight. Steady sipping wine to remain mask free. At least there’s that.
 
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