OT: Anyone watching Christine Blasey Ford?

[orangelvis]

I know what you are referring to. The Repubs vehemently objected to it as well. It is rule of convenience used by the party in power. You know this but you are locked into party tribalism. whataboutism. over the 200 years of our country it has not been rule. it has become weapon in modern political tribalism.

So what's good for dems is not good for repubs. I get it. Same old double standards. Who started the tribalism? Which party reamed Bork. Which party reamed Clarence Thomas? You've never seen the repubs do anything like this. The dems are the ones who vote in lock-step. The repubs are the ones who have variances of beliefs and thought. Don't talk about party tribalism.

Here's another thought. If there is no statute of limitations in Maryland, Why don't the dems just march Prof. Ford down to the police station and press charges.

 

[Orangeoveralls]

So what's good for dems is not good for repubs. I get it. Same old double standards. Who started the tribalism? Which party reamed Bork. Which party reamed Clarence Thomas? You've never seen the repubs do anything like this. The dems are the ones who vote in lock-step. The repubs are the ones who have variances of beliefs and thought. Don't talk about party tribalism.

Here's another thought. If there is no statute of limitations in Maryland, Why don't the dems just march Prof. Ford down to the police station and press charges.

LOL, you're so locked into tribal politics you cant comprehend an objective criticism of both parties about the flawed "rule" regarding SJ appointments.

The rest of your comments are pure one sided partisan garbage.

 

[orangelvis]

LOL, you're so locked into tribal politics you cant comprehend an objective criticism of both parties about the flawed "rule" regarding SJ appointments.

The rest of your comments are pure one sided partisan garbage.

No, you're trying to create a moral equivalence between the two parties, just because the repubs used a tactic created by the dems. Just like when Harry Reid did away with the filibuster for judicial appointments, he was warned by the repubs that someday it would come back and bite him in the ass.
While it's true that I generally side with conservative thought, there are plenty of times the repubs piss me off.

 

[johnhugh]

I don’t mean this as an insult but Amy you are one of the sorriest Idiots I have ever seen on this board. Jesus Christ.

 

[JAMCRACKER99]

I didn’t keep silent. It was in broad daylight. In a parking lot. But I called the police RIGHT AWAY. (not years later) He was apprehended and convicted and made to write me an apology letter.

How old were you at the time?

 

[JAMCRACKER99]

Then why didn't DiFi turn this over to the FBI in July? She instead turns it over to the media! This is BS and you know it. After all of the confirmation hearings, the dems spring this, through the media when the vote should be happening? C'mon Man!

It's politics and both sides are guilty of it. If this were a democratic POTUS nominee with the same accusations you can damn well bet @amynhop and many others would believe the female.

 

[JAMCRACKER99]

It's called "The Biden Rule" Joe Biden made a speech in '92, I think, warning Daddy Bush about appointing a judge during the lame duck, presidential election year.
In '95, Biden gave the same speech again. The original idea for this came from Sen. Byrd, I think. Of course, the dems only want to employ this stuff when it benefits them.
https://pjmedia.com/blog/biden-also-gave-biden-rule-speech-in-2005-reid-podesta-were-all-for-it/

Yep just like the Republicans did with Obama with almost 8 months left in his final term. Both sides do it. They are all a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[orangelvis]

It's politics and both sides are guilty of it. If this were a democratic POTUS nominee with the same accusations you can damn well bet @amynhop and many others would believe the female.

You've never seen the repubs stoop to this bs. That's the point. Bork, Thomas and now Kav.
Check this out. Committee repubs doxxed during testimony.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/09/27/l...-hatch-personal-information-doxxed-wikipedia/

 

[clemsonalex]

I don’t mean this as an insult but Amy you are one of the sorriest Idiots I have ever seen on this board. Jesus Christ.

I don’t mean this as an insult John, but you are the biggest, most sophomoric troll I have ever encountered online. You act is tired and so transparent you are a virtual window of idiocy. I wish @CrisArd would block your account because you are the epitome of a troll.

 

[FLaw47]

I don’t mean this as an insult John, but you are the biggest, most sophomoric troll I have ever encountered online. You act is tired and so transparent you are a virtual window of idiocy. I wish @CrisArd would block your account because you are the epitome of a troll.

Hey man like no offense but you're a total douche but that's just like my thoughts on it no hard feelings.

 

[C-TeamHOF]

You're right, it'd be extremely difficult to criminally convict the man of anything. What we have is very compelling testimony from a credible witness and several other people who have made allegations that fit in to a pattern of behavior. We also know that Kavanaugh is liar (perhaps not about this but for sure about several other issues). This is a lifetime appointment to an extraordinarily prestigious and import position. We as a country deserve better than Brett Kavanaugh (assuming his testimony isn't out of this world good).

I cannot disagree more vehemently.

 

[FLaw47]

I cannot disagree more vehemently.

Cool.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Well whoever runs against Trump in 2020 assaulted me 15 years ago.

What we need to do is have both men and women lined up to make claims against all candidates

Save us the trouble of the drip

I always heard a man running for office can survive being found with a dead girl in his bed but cannot ever be elected if we find a dead boy in his bed

If a women runs for president I am looking forward to women coming out with claims against a female presidential candidate

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

I would imagine you are correct in this statement. But don't we talk about the need for prison reform because many believe (myself among them) that there are black men in jail who shouldn't be there? Don't we say that one person in jail who shouldn't be is too much? Shouldn't this also apply to BOTH sides of the sexual assault issue? Right now, it's coming across as more of a revenge play than anything else. Is that what we want?

I am discussing with some state officials the possibility of early release of non violent prisoners if we can get them back into a home situation and a decent paying job

 

[Rychek4]

I am on record, on this forum, as supporting the Kavanaugh nomination, but it appears I am the only conservative here that didn't like his tough guy approach to the hearings.

I would prefer my SCOTUS nominees to take a more Gorsuch-like calm and measured approach. A more dignified approach.

 

[amynhop]

I am on record, on this forum, as supporting the Kavanaugh nomination, but it appears I am the only conservative here that didn't like his tough guy approach to the hearings.

I would prefer my SCOTUS nominees to take a more Gorsuch-like calm and measured approach. A more dignified approach.

My God. That man and his family have been through so much!!!!Year books from teenage years asking about flatulence and week day drinking???!!! C'mon! What insanity!!!
Ford is a liar. Already proven when her fear of flying statements were debunked.
The unscrupulous derailment process put on by the Democrats is an embarrassment to this country.
I don't know how Kavanaugh held it together as well as he did in the midst of that damn circus!
I would have been arrested.

 

[JAMCRACKER99]

You've never seen the repubs stoop to this bs. That's the point. Bork, Thomas and now Kav.
Check this out. Committee repubs doxxed during testimony.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/09/27/l...-hatch-personal-information-doxxed-wikipedia/[/QUOTE
Out at The Daily Caller.

 

[Willence]

I am discussing with some state officials the possibility of early release of non violent prisoners if we can get them back into a home situation and a decent paying job

This is one of our biggest failings as a nation. We don't rehabilitate people. We throw them away. That isn't a good way to do things. We must seek to help people, show them people care about them and do whatever we can to help them so they can be a part of society and productive. This should be our number one go where ever it is possible.

 

[orangelvis]

So, in your world these Senators weren't really doxxed, I guess.

 

[Rychek4]

My God. That man and his family have been through so much!!!!Year books from teenage years asking about flatulence and week day drinking???!!! C'mon! What insanity!!!
Ford is a liar. Already proven when her fear of flying statements were debunked.
The unscrupulous derailment process put on by the Democrats is an embarrassment to this country.
I don't know how Kavanaugh held it together as well as he did in the midst of that damn circus!
I would have been arrested.

I agree that it was a circus and much of the questioning was absolutely unscrupulous, but I expect a supreme court justice to be among the best of us. Maybe you and I would have acted out, but we aren't being nominated for a seat either.

I expect people in the highest of positions to have the highest tolerances for these sort of shenanigans. Bush 43 ducked a damn shoe thrown at his head and kept his shit together better.

 

[Willence]

I agree that it was a circus and much of the questioning was absolutely unscrupulous, but I expect a supreme court justice to be among the best of us. Maybe you and I would have acted out, but we aren't being nominated for a seat either.

I expect people in the highest of positions to have the highest tolerances for these sort of shenanigans. Bush 43 ducked a damn shoe thrown at his head and kept his shit together better.

Sorry man. I have to disagree. I can't imagine anyone going through what this guy went through in such an unjust way and not lose his cool a bit. No matter what comes of this, he will be called a rapist for the rest of his life. Justice Thomas has been called a sexual predator during this process enough though if you believe the charges, he did no such thing. It is a stain that he will carry for all his days. That is worth fighting about.

 

[Rychek4]

Sorry man. I have to disagree. I can't imagine anyone going through what this guy went through in such an unjust way and not lose his cool a bit. No matter what comes of this, he will be called a rapist for the rest of his life. Justice Thomas has been called a sexual predator during this process enough though if you believe the charges, he did no such thing. It is a stain that he will carry for all his days. That is worth fighting about.

Fair point, I might reconsider my position.

 

[Willence]

Wow @ what we just saw happen. Amazing stuff.

 

[Rychek4]

Wow @ what we just saw happen. Amazing stuff.

Graham selling a 1 week delay hard right now.

 

[CUAngler]

If this is all fake, why don’t R’s just let the FBI investigate. If it’s a sham, the D’s will have a pretty nasty egg on their face.

Seems pretty simple.

The repubs have not kept the FBI from investigating. The FBI themselves have said there is nothing to investigate. She doesn't even know exactly when and where it happened, nor does she really know anyone else who was at the party. Where would the investigation start?

It is 100% accurate. Sen. Whitehouse (Democrat) even stated this during a TV interview.

Well here we are. Looks like there will be an FBI investigation of some sort.

 

[orangelvis]

Wow @ what we just saw happen. Amazing stuff.

They voted to send the nomination to the full Senate and it passed 11-10.
Grassley corrected stated that McConnell would have to be the one to put the vote back until next Friday,(a week). Apparently Jeff Flake, (has anyone ever been more aptly named), will be the hold up.
If anyone thinks the dems are gonna accept any report from the FBI and vote next Friday, are kidding themselves. They will be screaming and kicking for more delays, there will be more allegations raised, etc, etc. The circus continues.

 

[Willence]

If anyone thinks the dems are gonna accept any report from the FBI and vote next Friday, are kidding themselves. They will be screaming and kicking for more delays, there will be more allegations raised, etc, etc. The circus continues.

I am sure this is the case. But if it puts any minds at ease in the public, it'll be worth it even though I think it's ridiculous. Because I am pretty sure it's a nothing-burger, I doubt the FBI case finds anything.

 

[nytigerfan]

Apparently Jeff Flake, (has anyone ever been more aptly named), will be the hold up. The circus continues.

I see you in many other political threads talking about "draining the swamp". With Flake you have a guy who is not seeking reelection, so he is voting and speaking based on what he thinks is right. He is not blindly following Trump or the GOP just so he will get reelection money. I dont get how you of all people would have a problem with that.

 

[Willence]

I see you in many other political threads talking about "draining the swamp". With Flake you have a guy who is not seeking reelection, so he is voting and speaking based on what he thinks is right. He is not blindly following Trump or the GOP just so he will get reelection money. I dont get how you of all people would have a problem with that.

I have to agree here. He was clearly struggling with this and he is doing what he believes is right. Whether I agree with him or not, I respect that someone in Washington actually has a conscience they will follow. All we can ask of our elected reps is that they'll do what they believe is right.

 

[amynhop]

I just came home from the doctor. I was diagnosed with PDSD. Pretty damn sick of democrats!

 

[orangelvis]

I see you in many other political threads talking about "draining the swamp". With Flake you have a guy who is not seeking reelection, so he is voting and speaking based on what he thinks is right. He is not blindly following Trump or the GOP just so he will get reelection money. I dont get how you of all people would have a problem with that.

He's supposedly very conservative, but a Never Trumper. I don't get what will be accomplished by a delay, other than the chance for further delay; which I believe is the goal. If you're not going to vote for him, then don't. (not you, but any particular Senator). There is no real reason to delay the vote, except to delay the the vote and find new reasons in the interim to delay it again. Graham was right on the money with his take on the dems in is rant yesterday.

EDIT: Well, well, not 15 minutes after my post, reports are coming out that the Dem lawyers are already fighting the 1 week delay. Claiming there should be no time limits on a thorough investigation.
This brings me back full circle to what I believed from the beginning. If the Dems were really interested in investigating the truth, they would have notified Grassley in July about the allegation, had a thorough investigation without the press being involved, and then proceeded forward as necessary with the results of the investigation. This is how dems act when they're not in power. They don't give 2 sh!ts about this woman or any other woman for that matter. The only thing they're interested in is burning down the country if they have to; to get their way.

 

[Rychek4]

He's supposedly very conservative, but a Never Trumper. I don't get what will be accomplished by a delay, other than the chance for further delay; which I believe is the goal. If you're not going to vote for him, then don't. (not you, but any particular Senator). There is no real reason to delay the vote, except to delay the the vote and find new reasons in the interim to delay it again. Graham was right on the money with his take on the dems in is rant yesterday.

EDIT: Well, well, not 15 minutes after my post, reports are coming out that the Dem lawyers are already fighting the 1 week delay. Claiming there should be no time limits on a thorough investigation.
This brings me back full circle to what I believed from the beginning. If the Dems were really interested in investigating the truth, they would have notified Grassley in July about the allegation, had a thorough investigation without the press being involved, and then proceeded forward as necessary with the results of the investigation. This is how dems act when they're not in power. They don't give 2 sh!ts about this woman or any other woman for that matter. The only thing they're interested in is burning down the country if they have to; to get their way.

This delay is a 1 week strategy session for both parties and nothing else.