OT- If we continue to follow liberals, this is our path

[appalachiatiger]

for those liberals who favor no guns and govt spending this our future

venezuela is the perfect country for any liberal in america to migrate to

might could help them fix it lol

 

[RUBDROC]

I grew up in Brooklyn? Lol

 

[CAPS LOCK1]

Stopped watching when I saw the guy had frosted tips and a necklace

 

[FreeSC]

for those liberals who favor no guns and govt spending this our future

venezuela is the perfect country for any liberal in america to migrate to

might could help them fix it lol

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Bernie actually said that food rationing is a good thing (back when he was mayor) because it keeps the rich from hoarding it all.
Really, he did. Saw it on tape.

How do you have an intelligent conversation with that?

 

[appalachiatiger]

Bernie actually said that food rationing is a good thing (back when he was mayor) because it keeps the rich from hoarding it all.
Really, he did. Saw it on tape.

How do you have an intelligent conversation with that?

beats me

@CAPS LOCK1 said he quit listening because the guy had frosty hair tips and was was wearing a necklace lol

i didnt even notice

to me thats part of whats wrong with americans and why humans are easily controlled

 

[gogetem]

for those liberals who favor no guns and govt spending this our future

venezuela is the perfect country for any liberal in america to migrate to

might could help them fix it lol

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Don't even have to go that far. If you want to see the effects of extended periods of liberal politics look no further than Michigan, Illinois, and California.

 

[appalachiatiger]

Don't even have to go that far. If you want to see the effects of extended periods of liberal politics look no further than Michigan, Illinois, and California.

exactly- gun free zones my ass.

take chitown for example

most gun deaths in a year

then take a state like maine, highest amount of guns per person, but low gun deaths

its not the guns, its the minds of the guys on the trigger and the environment they live and grow up in.

has nothing to do with the guns

taking the guns away doesnt change their mentality

 

[nextoffensivecoord]

for those liberals who favor no guns and govt spending this our future

venezuela is the perfect country for any liberal in america to migrate to

might could help them fix it lol

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You political posts are moronic. Stick to finding your child.

 

[Patagonia]

for those liberals who favor no guns and govt spending this our future

venezuela is the perfect country for any liberal in america to migrate to

might could help them fix it lol

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If you are hardcore liberal or hardcore conservative, then you're part of the problem.

 

[enctigger]

If you think the federal government can be trusted to manage your life you are already dead you just haven't stopped breathing.

 

[GilaMonsta]

exactly- gun free zones my ass.

take chitown for example

most gun deaths in a year

then take a state like maine, highest amount of guns per person, but low gun deaths

its not the guns, its the minds of the guys on the trigger and the environment they live and grow up in.

has nothing to do with the guns

taking the guns away doesnt change their mentality

You don't think socioeconomic dynamic plays any part in the difference between Maine and Chicago?

 

[appalachiatiger]

You don't think socioeconomic dynamic plays any part in the difference between Maine and Chicago?

only god knows why a 19 year old in chicago would rather shoot another human being while the same 19 year old in maine would rather put food on the table for his family with his gun.

thats parenting

 

[nextoffensivecoord]

only god knows why a 19 year old in chicago would rather shoot another human being while the same 19 year old in maine would rather put food on the table for his family with his gun.

thats parenting

Slow down with the "parenting" talk

 

[appalachiatiger]

If you think the federal government can be trusted to manage your life you are already dead you just haven't stopped breathing.

"federal govt" could mean a guy with frost hair and wears a necklace

thats a great point

when we expand the power of the "federal govt"

all we really are doing is giving other citizens who we may or may not agree with power over you

just makes no sense unless you are a weak or lazy human

 

[appalachiatiger]

If you are hardcore liberal or hardcore conservative, then you're part of the problem.

great point

both parties are a total sum game

out of 10 issues, you think dems and reps could compromise on half to 75%

but with the extremes of both parties in charge less than 25% are agreed upon and they act like that 25% is the end of the world lol

 

[CUtiger (actual)]

You political posts are moronic. Stick to finding your child.

Your political views are childish, stick to Salon message boards.

 

[insomniactiger]

Bernie actually said that food rationing is a good thing (back when he was mayor) because it keeps the rich from hoarding it all.
Really, he did. Saw it on tape.

How do you have an intelligent conversation with that?

Had to google to find. It's two sentences with 0 context... Also I find it odd that the top "news sites" reporting this are: inquisitr, thelibertarianrepublic, louderwithcrowder, hannity, patheos, and patriotupdate. If that doesn't make you take a step back and wonder what's up then I'm not sure what to say. You are just letting yourself be indoctrinated by the media IMHO.

 

[appalachiatiger]

Slow down with the "parenting" talk

agreed

 

[appalachiatiger]

You political posts are moronic. Stick to finding your child.

whats moronic about studying the effects that liberal policies have had on other nations

to study the eventual effects it will have on us.

chicago and caracus are eerily similar

 

[appalachiatiger]

Had to google to find. It's two sentences with 0 context... Also I find it odd that the top "news sites" reporting this are: inquisitr, thelibertarianrepublic, louderwithcrowder, hannity, patheos, and patriotupdate. If that doesn't make you take a step back and wonder what's up then I'm not sure what to say. You are just letting yourself be indoctrinated by the media IMHO.

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all he is saying is that the christian community filled the gaps prior to the fed govt becoming the majority stake holder in the safety net

30 years ago- neighbors and communities were a tightknit woven group of people working together to make ends meet.

the govt has allowed for some in that group to just sit at home and eat pizza, drink sodas, and watch soaps all day because they get a direct deposit from uncle sam because uncle sam deems them worthless, so they tale ownership of their worthlessness.

give them something to do for that check, and even the laziest will surprise you

 

[Patagonia]

whats moronic about studying the effects that liberal policies have had on other nations

to study the eventual effects it will have on us.

chicago and caracus are eerily similar

Most European nations are more liberal than the US. Most (Western) also rank higher on the happiness/quality of life scale. To use any Latin American country as an example is to invite criticism of past (and current) US policies.

 

[nextoffensivecoord]

Your political views are childish, stick to Salon message boards.

Is that (actual)ly your position?

 

[nextoffensivecoord]

Most European nations are more liberal than the US. Most (Western) also rank higher on the happiness/quality of life scale. To use any Latin American country as an example is to invite criticism of past (and current) US policies.

Conservatives are generally too dumb to understand this

 

[Patagonia]

all he is saying is that the christian community filled the gaps prior to the fed govt becoming the majority stake holder in the safety net

30 years ago- neighbors and communities were a tightknit woven group of people working together to make ends meet.

the govt has allowed for some in that group to just sit at home and eat pizza, drink sodas, and watch soaps all day because they get a direct deposit from uncle sam because uncle sam deems them worthless, so they tale ownership of their worthlessness.

give them something to do for that check, and even the laziest will surprise you

The cynic in me agrees with the often stated idea that welfare is merely a means to keep the disenfranchised and impoverished from revolting.

 

[bflow22]

A little related but OP is somewhat right.

Took a course @Clemson that I feel like everyone should be required to take. Econ History(I was an econ/stats major). There is one common theme that is repeated over and over again. When the government interferes too much, taxes are raised regularly, free trade is halted, and too many social services are installed, the country fails every time. Basically under that scenario, citizens slowly become nonproductive. A nonproductive population is destined for failure. History has proven it over and over again. One of the best courses I ever took. I didn't major in history but I do really enjoy learning it.


Way OT - Another great history course I took was "The Israeli Occupation of Palestine". Fascinating course and far more gruesome that I knew prior to taking the class.

 

[GilaMonsta]

only god knows why a 19 year old in chicago would rather shoot another human being while the same 19 year old in maine would rather put food on the table for his family with his gun.

thats parenting

The entire family dynamic, especially and specifically in black families in Chicago (and in general, really) has been destroyed on a fundamental level. Where the majority of our issues stem from.

great point

both parties are a total sum game

out of 10 issues, you think dems and reps could compromise on half to 75%

but with the extremes of both parties in charge less than 25% are agreed upon and they act like that 25% is the end of the world lol

This ^^^

 

[gogetem]

The cynic in me agrees with the often stated idea that welfare is merely a means to keep the disenfranchised and impoverished from revolting.

The realist in me says welfare is merely a means to keep the disenfranchised and impoverished voting for you.

 

[CAPS LOCK1]

beats me

@CAPS LOCK1 said he quit listening because the guy had frosty hair tips and was was wearing a necklace lol

i didnt even notice

to me thats part of whats wrong with americans and why humans are easily controlled

HA! No people like you are the problem. Who use videos like this to fear monger the uneducated into thinking what's happening in Caracus Venezuela is even remotely close to the US.

If you're so against government, quit driving on the roads, drinking clean water and when you get into an accident next time, don't call fire and rescue. Go live on an island and fend for yourself. Let me know how that works out for you.

The US isn't Venezula and never will be Venezula. Take off your tin foil hat and get back to your Darcy stories, they are way more interesting. Lastly Bernie sucks, Trump sucks

 

[Patagonia]

A little related but OP is somewhat right.

Took a course @Clemson that I feel like everyone should be required to take. Econ History(I was an econ/stats major). There is one common theme that is repeated over and over again. When the government interferes too much, taxes are raised regularly, free trade is halted, and too many social services are installed, the country fails every time. Basically under that scenario, citizens slowly become nonproductive. A nonproductive population is destined for failure. History has proven it over and over again. One of the best courses I ever took. I didn't major in history but I do really enjoy learning it.


Way OT - Another great history course I took was "The Israeli Occupation of Palestine". Fascinating course and far more gruesome that I knew prior to taking the class.

Well, bear in mind that the US is still quite more capitalist than socialist vis-a-vis the majority of other developed nations. I think that a social safety net is necessary. More than we have now. I agree that there are welfare abusers. But, I sorta relate it to our stance on a criminal conviction. Innocent until proven guilty. Perhaps we should spend more on monitoring the system....perhaps it really is to keep the impoverished masses calm...perhaps....all I know is this is something being debated on a much higher level than this board.

I had a professor at Clemson....Slann, I think. We read A Yellow Wind in his class. Thanks for mentioning that book. I'll likely pick it up. I am fascinated with ME politics. Talk about complicated.

 

[Patagonia]

The realist in me says welfare is merely a means to keep the disenfranchised and impoverished voting for you.

It's the edge of the sword. Otherwise why have so many republicans been elected.

 

[tigerGUY]

Had to google to find. It's two sentences with 0 context... Also I find it odd that the top "news sites" reporting this are: inquisitr, thelibertarianrepublic, louderwithcrowder, hannity, patheos, and patriotupdate. If that doesn't make you take a step back and wonder what's up then I'm not sure what to say. You are just letting yourself be indoctrinated by the media IMHO.

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The fact this country was once a Republic is lost on people. The Democrats field a Socialist and an avowed Communist yet the main stream media doesn't mention it. The mainstream media distorts truth and pushes the Liberal agenda because the fvcking Libs own the media. Half truths and distorted facts are nothing but GD lies.

 

[casellers84]

Conservatives are generally too dumb to understand this

Can you provide actual talking points in regards to your political views or is calling conservatives "dumb" just your primary go-to? You literally never say anything of substance and it's always childish babble and insults. The problem with political discussions is that those who are the most fervent on either side are typically the most uniformed.

 

[Patagonia]

The fact this country was once a Republic is lost on people. The Democrats field a Socialist and an avowed Communist yet the main stream media doesn't mention it. The mainstream media distorts truth and pushes the Liberal agenda because the fvcking Libs own the media. Half truths and distorted facts are nothing but GD lies.

Yeah, good we have that whole checks and balances thing. If Bernie were truly an avowed communist, then tell me how he would fundamentally change this nation.

 

[tigerGUY]

Well, bear in mind that the US is still quite more capitalist than socialist vis-a-vis the majority of other developed nations. I think that a social safety net is necessary. More than we have now. I agree that there are welfare abusers. But, I sorta relate it to our stance on a criminal conviction. Innocent until proven guilty. Perhaps we should spend more on monitoring the system....perhaps it really is to keep the impoverished masses calm...perhaps....all I know is this is something being debated on a much higher level than this board

I had a professor at Clemson....Slann, I think. We read A Yellow Wind in his class. Thanks for mentioning that book. I'll likely pick it up. I am fascinated with ME politics. Talk about complicated.

The debate should be waged with the People. The welfare system was meant to trap families...much as Healthcare reform in its' present format was meant to further control the People. And we have people in this country that can't see what's happening because the Feds pat them on their empty brained heads and tell them it's all right. It's not. There will be a huge mistake made by the Governemnt that will spark massive civil outrage and outright war between the races and classes. It's inevitable.

 

[damecourt]

whats moronic about studying the effects that liberal policies have had on other nations

to study the eventual effects it will have on us.

chicago and caracus are eerily similar

Personally, I like your political post for your adherence to civil discourse. However, your rigid anti-liberal position is too myopic to claim that you're "studying" anything but what buttresses your long-held beliefs.

You have a sharp intellect and you seem to have the desire to explore deeper issues than the banal, mass-produced ones espoused to the public by the media. You would garner my respect, and I suspect others, if your political position were based on a wider examination of political science and theory.

For example, your claim that Chicago and Caracus being liberal waste lands would have been more meaningful if you had taken a broader examination of the effects of extreme conservative policies on communities such as Kansas and Kabul.

 

[Patagonia]

The debate should be waged with the People. The welfare system was meant to trap families...much as Healthcare reform in its' present format was meant to further control the People. And we have people in this country that can't see what's happening because the Feds pat them on their empty brained heads and tell them it's all right. It's not. There will be a huge mistake made by the Governemnt that will spark massive civil outrage and outright war between the races and classes. It's inevitable.

OOOOOOOK. Conflict is inevitable. It happens. How is welfare a trap? Maybe people with goals use it to take that next step...school, proper nourishment of a child. Your posts seem to want a conflict to happen. I prefer to see the US as a nation that adjusts its policies to the needs of its people. I know I'll never convince you to see it that way, but I like my worldview better.

 

[nextoffensivecoord]

The fact this country was once a Republic is lost on people. The Democrats field a Socialist and an avowed Communist yet the main stream media doesn't mention it. The mainstream media distorts truth and pushes the Liberal agenda because the fvcking Libs own the media. Half truths and distorted facts are nothing but GD lies.

Yet you fail to mention that Republicans are about to nominate a fascist. But that's your MO.

 

[wallaceb]

The debate should be waged with the People. The welfare system was meant to trap families...much as Healthcare reform in its' present format was meant to further control the People. And we have people in this country that can't see what's happening because the Feds pat them on their empty brained heads and tell them it's all right. It's not. There will be a huge mistake made by the Governemnt that will spark massive civil outrage and outright war between the races and classes. It's inevitable.

 

[nextoffensivecoord]

Hey @appalachiatiger what dose of levothyroxine are you on, and who is the manufacturer of the drug? Should say on your bottle. Just curious.

 

[nextoffensivecoord]