throw in a run on your currency when it becoms worthless you will see the same thing in europe.
if the dollar copllapses, a policy of gun free zones under marshall law i would consider ignorant call
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throw in a run on your currency when it becoms worthless you will see the same thing in europe.
if the dollar copllapses, a policy of gun free zones under marshall law i would consider ignorant call
its called red tape.
imagine a dollar being handed to the first person in line. that person turns and gives to next and so on.
if the govt steps in between one of those transfers it slows the economy down. everyone downstream of getting and using that dollar now has to wait.
I doubt even the most conservative on this board suggests that we don't need government. I doubt those same people believe that there should not be a safety net. That being said, if you are living off the labor of others, then I believe it is reasonable that you should be held accountable and you should be required to live in a certain way. This is the main disagreement between liberals and conservatives. I believe that if you are living on government subsidies you should do certain things and refrain from certain things. You should not be allowed to make your dependence more costly by having more children, smoking, drinking excessively or possibly even drinking at all. You should be required to receive job training and search for a job if you already possess skills. We clearly need government, we just need a little less than we have now. 18% of GDP is more than enough for the federal government.
Well, not sure what you were trying to say. The Euro is stable enough even with a Brexit. Any nation can have a run on the value of its currency. Again, these are things that likely will happen irrespective of an elephant or donkey being the President.
so what has effected a normal chicago household where the children walk out of their homes, go to the streets and shoot othe human beings
while in maine, those same children from the same style of family, leave their home with a weapon and are not looking to shoot up other humans.
a human is there
guns are present in both cases
what makes one use a gun differently than the other
its not the dam gun!
Everything you suggest requires more government. How do you enforce the standards you've set without expanding government monitoring and regulation of that safety net?
i didnt say im against govt.
i would love seeing more money spent on roads, bridges, rails, etc- democrats are fighting that
i love drinking clean water- republicans fight that
the accident, hmmm you are emotionally reaching their my friend lol
There are great cities and great states with both republican and democratic leadership.
It really just boils down to the socioeconomics of those cities and states.
Met very few that thinks Mississippi is great despite Republican leadership. Met very few that don't think San Fran and PNW are great despite being the most liberal part of the country. Same with Boston and much of New England.
Even with Chicago everything immediately around downtown and north is great and it is one of the best cities in the country, but their are a couple poor neighborhoods primarily south of the city and directly west where almost all the violence takes place.
It really just boils down to the socioeconomics of those cities and states.
Met very few that thinks Mississippi is great despite Republican leadership. Met very few that don't think San Fran and PNW are great despite being the most liberal part of the country. Same with Boston and much of New England.
Even with Chicago everything immediately around downtown and north is great and it is one of the best cities in the country, but their are a couple poor neighborhoods primarily south of the city and directly west where almost all the violence takes place.
alot of people vote republican because they value their freedom more than the thought of giving other americans authority over them.
republicans understand why america was founded, and what the blood of our ancestors was spilled for.
sure wasnt to rebuild europe in america
What if one is a conservative with respect to fiscal matters and more liberal re social politics. Can I like a strong military but be pro-choice? Can I think there need to be far more restrictions on buying guns and still be anti-AFL-CIO. Can I be pro-Israel but anti-Bibi?
I like you, App. I think you're in troll mode now. If not, then you are part of this country's problem.
Once again, I stated that there is a role for government, and adequate monitoring of these services is in my opinion necessary. Monitoring would be less expensive than not monitoring and that is true in any government system. Any system can be manipulated, and they should be monitored to avoid the large amount of fraud that tends to occur when the government starts paying for something. Medicare fraud is rampant, the military is ripe with fraud when purchases are made. Fraud is very expensive and monitoring fraud is going to save lots of money if done properly. Trump is an ass, but he's right about this.
Eden went away a long time ago. We are making something with what we have. There is no ethereal utopia. And a hardcore republican view scares me a hell of a lot more than a hardcore liberal view.
i totally agree
and should go for politicians too they get paid to be less than 10% efficient at their jobs.
I am conservative on financial issues and more liberal on social issues. I do think the gov't needs to butt out of people's lives more. Infrastructure, Millitary,
I am conservative in nature and I agree with you 100%. Gov't has a place in everyday life. People depending on the gov't to take care of them is not a great thing. Dependency on others will cripple a person. If you are working and need help then I am all for giving you help. If you fall on hard times then I am all for helping you get back on your feet. If you can work and choose not to because the gov't is paying everything for you then I have no sympathy for you.
agreed, but the euro and the dollar are sittng on wet paper towels and could have a run that would destroy us in 72 hours
i would start by drug test testing every elected official and every government employee that has a badge or access pass to anything "we" own
i would change "under oath" to "lie detection equipment"
Under oath means diddly squat
How about this perspective: say that 25% of welfare recipients are abusing the system. You can choose to monitor them and train them. You are successful with 10%. So the other 15% is cut off. What do they become?
yes screw party platforms. treat each issue on its on merit from your personal experiences
if we all did that, a consensus would form with the least resistance
partly in troll mode
but realistically some of the republicans platform is closer to the ideals of the founders.
its hard to even wrap my head around how i can connect the liberal agenda to anything close to what the founders envisioned
but most of us has family who have fought in wars since the 1600s to defend liberty
liberty- just that, liberty
both scare the hell out of me
liberals wanting to pretend we live in the garden of eden
conservatives are scared to death that brown skin men in robs and flip flops are a real threat to our sovereignty
but as we continue to let these muslims into our country without pledging allegiance to our flag and understand what liberty and freedom is
if they dont, send them back
i do not want a bunch of people in america that does not pledge allegiance to our flag
that last 15% will whither away and die in trailerparks, the projects, prisons, or nursing homes.
They will be homeless and criminals. Extend that out to your society. I would rather pay a few bucks more.
So we're back to the "if you don't like America you can get out" argument? Was hoping we'd exhausted that one by now.
The Founders were brilliant and flawed and had no idea about today's society. I am not a strict constructionist of the Constitution. Those who are, I hear ya, but it's folly.
Ot - this is charming. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-finds-burglar-chases-him-7785485
I don't know if comparing Chicago with Maine is apples to apples. That's like comparing a Tiger to a house cat.
We got bumped to the kid's table. Time to send a too tight sweater to that weather girl signed "To my love, Chris Ard."
right
so thats why whats good for chicago may not be good for maine
or whats good for a city and the micro socio economic system adopted in chicago
might not be good for the envirnment in maine.
but it doesnt matter what environment you come from
using a gun to kill another human has absolutely nothing to do with the gun
hahaha doesnt bother me as much anymore since we have the little red numbers pop up inthe upper right hand corner to let us know someone responded across different message boards
I am not a liberal or a conservative. You're looking through your lens...which needs cleaning.
What Venezuela displays is when one-party takes control of the whole system without any opposition to moderate it. Liberals hate the Republican Party, but if your a Liberal, they serve a purpose. Same for Conservatives, although I doubt Conservatives could ever take over all three branches with a super majority. If they did, some of the things that would happen would probably make you shake your head, think Prohibition.
Liberals had full control for two years. And they passed bills even they don't think are good. And made statements such as we have to pass it before we can read it comments. If that statement was done by a conservative for some religious bill, they would have exploded. Now imagine Venezuela doing this for 20 years and this is what you get.
A couple of other things to think about that I've read in this thread. Most European countries, like the US, have a conservative party that moderates its liberal party and vice-versa. Think Germany, no one thinks of their head of state as being liberal. United States has a more socialistic economy now than some western European Countries.
Some countries that are above us on the capitalistic scale: New Zealand, Switzerland, Australia, Singapore, Canada (yes our neighbor to the north), Chile, and Ireland to name a few.
The issue that Liberals are having is that the US cannot be Socialist Utopia and the World's Military Police. There just isn't enough money. So when they see someone like Clinton who wants to keep the latter strong. They know she doesn't or can not move the US to a more Socialist Utopia. Something has to give, eventually our debt will over burden the US.
Liberals had full control for two years. And they passed bills even they don't think are good. And made statements such as we have to pass it before we can read it comments. If that statement was done by a conservative for some religious bill, they would have exploded. Now imagine Venezuela doing this for 20 years and this is what you get.
A couple of other things to think about that I've read in this thread. Most European countries, like the US, have a conservative party that moderates its liberal party and vice-versa. Think Germany, no one thinks of their head of state as being liberal. United States has a more socialistic economy now than some western European Countries.
Some countries that are above us on the capitalistic scale: New Zealand, Switzerland, Australia, Singapore, Canada (yes our neighbor to the north), Chile, and Ireland to name a few.
The issue that Liberals are having is that the US cannot be Socialist Utopia and the World's Military Police. There just isn't enough money. So when they see someone like Clinton who wants to keep the latter strong. They know she doesn't or can not move the US to a more Socialist Utopia. Something has to give, eventually our debt will over burden the US.
