OT - voting for person vs the issues

[CUPLAYER1]

I honestly believe Trump is a bad person. And Joe seems like a good dude.

But dammit I can't support the left's progressive social policies, much less their shitty economic record.

How do you reconcile voting for an ego maniac who appears to be racist (on the surface) vs supporting views that contradict everything I believe?

 

[Clem'sSon]

 

[scartiger]

I honestly believe Trump is a bad person. And Joe seems like a good dude.

But dammit I can't support the left's progressive social policies, much less their shitty economic record.

How do you reconcile voting for an ego maniac who appears to be racist (on the surface) vs supporting views that contradict everything I believe?

It all makes sense now.

 

[SGTiger]

Joe seems like a good dude.

My word.

 

[CUPLAYER1]

My word.

I didn't say coherent

 

[jparker3791]

I honestly believe Trump is a bad person. And Joe seems like a good dude.

But dammit I can't support the left's progressive social policies, much less their shitty economic record.

How do you reconcile voting for an ego maniac who appears to be racist (on the surface) vs supporting views that contradict everything I believe?

Wrong board dude and I keep up with all of it. I'm here in the WZ to get away from it. @Cris_Ard a little help please.

 

[CUPLAYER1]

Wrong board dude and I keep up with all of it. I'm here in the WZ to get away from it. @Cris_Ard a little help please.

Shot. I'll get it moved

 

[catchandrelease]

I honestly believe Trump is a bad person. And Joe seems like a good dude.

But dammit I can't support the left's progressive social policies, much less their shitty economic record.

How do you reconcile voting for an ego maniac who appears to be racist (on the surface) vs supporting views that contradict everything I believe?

And the Biden crime family are good people? WOW!

 

[catchandrelease]

It all makes sense now.

It took you this long g to figure it out?

 

[CUPLAYER1]

And the Biden crime family are good people? WOW!

As far as I know, JB has not been charged much less convicted of any crime. Maybe that's incorrect? I'm just not aware of any. He's been married once and is faithful. That's what I meant. Politicians are all slimy, but he doesn't have any extra slime to my knowledge (and I'm not holding his son against him...his son isn't running for POTUS). I'm voting Trump. But doing it knowing that I'm supporting a scumbag. My views line up with that party's policies....but I certainly don't condone that man's behavior

 

[tigerbytes1979]

Talk about stirring chit up. You bored?

 

[amynhop]

Biden is a good dude? Wow. I’m just at a loss at this ridiculous statement. Do you have any knowledge of Joe Biden and family?
You better vote for Trump like your life and country depends on it. Because it does.

 

[golfandfoodandcu]

shitty economic record

Biden oversaw a rebuilding of the economy twice, but sure, believe what you’ve been fed

 

[drnuckles6]

Biden is a good dude? Wow. I’m just at a loss at this ridiculous statement. Do you have any knowledge of Joe Biden and family?
You better vote for Trump like your life and country depends on it. Because it does.

Nobody who's a politician is a good dude. There's a certain level of psychopathy and brain damage which exists when you believe you're fit to govern over others. This goes for Trump, Biden, really everyone.

 

[CU_4734]

As far as I know, JB has not been charged much less convicted of any crime. Maybe that's incorrect? I'm just not aware of any. He's been married once and is faithful. That's what I meant. Politicians are all slimy, but he doesn't have any extra slime to my knowledge (and I'm not holding his son against him...his son isn't running for POTUS). I'm voting Trump. But doing it knowing that I'm supporting a scumbag. My views line up with that party's policies....but I certainly don't condone that man's behavior

Nah man. Married twice and was sworn in by his kid’s hospital bed two weeks after his wife and child died.

Great dude though

 

[CUPLAYER1]

Biden oversaw a rebuilding of the economy twice, but sure, believe what you’ve been fed

What we have right now IS NOT acceptable

 

[CUPLAYER1]

Nah man. Married twice and was sworn in by his kid’s hospital bed two weeks after his wife and child died.

Great dude though

Did he kill/injure them?

I know his 1st wife was killed along with 1 kid. 2 survived. What does this have to do with JBs character?

 

[CU_4734]

Did he kill/injure them?

I know his 1st wife was killed along with 1 kid. 2 survived. What does this have to do with JBs character?

Of course he didn’t kill them. But if a wife and baby girl die in an accident, I think most good men would bow out and become dad first.

And for what it’s worth trump is a total piece of shit too. Most are in Washington. Im only disagreeing with your statement that Biden is a good man

 

[CUPLAYER1]

Of course he didn’t kill them. But if a wife and baby girl die in an accident, I think most good men would bow out and become dad first.

And for what it’s worth trump is a total piece of shit too. Most are in Washington. Im only disagreeing with your statement that Biden is a good man

Ah. I see now. I mean- I'm not gonna judge a man on that. I'm not sure what I'd do in that situation? Life does go on. I'm sure he'd rather them be alive. That's some personal stuff that's really nitpicking imo to attack someone's character. We all parent differently. One thing I have learned in this lifetime is to NEVER tell someone how to raiser THEIR kids. I'm sure he has some regrets, but that's a far cry from Trump's record.

 

[CUT93]

I honestly believe Trump is a bad person. And Joe seems like a good dude.

But dammit I can't support the left's progressive social policies, much less their shitty economic record.

How do you reconcile voting for an ego maniac who appears to be racist (on the surface) vs supporting views that contradict everything I believe?

I share your quandary , though I don't think of Joe as a good dude. At the very least, he knew of and facilitated Hunter's choice to sell influence to foreigners. It's also pretty clear Joe is a racist. I don't mean he hates minorities, but he clearly thinks they are inferior to white people based on multiple comments he has made. No doubt though, that trump is a crappy person. No sane human would argue against that idea.

I want trump to win bc it will be a better result for the country. You are still either voting for more dem policies, spending, regulation, higher taxes, bigger govt and more govt overreach or less of those things. I choose less. It's as simple as that for me.

 

[okclem]

I honestly believe Trump is a bad person. And Joe seems like a good dude.

But dammit I can't support the left's progressive social policies, much less their shitty economic record.

How do you reconcile voting for an ego maniac who appears to be racist (on the surface) vs supporting views that contradict everything I believe?

You'd vote for a truly bad person over a truly good person just because some other people who also support that truly good person have some ideas that you don't like?

You might as well rationalize why it's actually a good thing to cut your nose off to spite your face.

Anyone who thinks this country is turning socialist instead of fascist is too ignorant to be voting.

 

[TigerGrowls]

I honestly believe Trump is a bad person. And Joe seems like a good dude.

But dammit I can't support the left's progressive social policies, much less their shitty economic record.

How do you reconcile voting for an ego maniac who appears to be racist (on the surface) vs supporting views that contradict everything I believe?

Very respectfully I cannot understand your logic here unless you are just not keeping up with what has occurred over the last 8 years. Joe Biden is not a good person at all and Trump while not a choir boy is a very good person related to loving America, keeping his campaign promises while in office and wanting America to be very successful and stay with the culture, history and values that made it what it has been. A vote for Joe Biden or any other democrat is a vote to destroy the America we grew up in and have known and watch it be washed down the drain into socialism and worse.

 

[DW4_2016]

Of course he didn’t kill them. But if a wife and baby girl die in an accident, I think most good men would bow out and become dad first.

And for what it’s worth trump is a total piece of shit too. Most are in Washington. Im only disagreeing with your statement that Biden is a good man

Trump is well known for being an excellent father. Forgets some of his kids names, but great father.

 

[fatpiggy]

As far as I know, JB has not been charged much less convicted of any crime. Maybe that's incorrect? I'm just not aware of any. He's been married once and is faithful. That's what I meant. Politicians are all slimy, but he doesn't have any extra slime to my knowledge (and I'm not holding his son against him...his son isn't running for POTUS). I'm voting Trump. But doing it knowing that I'm supporting a scumbag. My views line up with that party's policies....but I certainly don't condone that man's behavior

So not being charged under a clearly biased justice system is the litmus test?

Guess what? Donald Trump is not a convicted felon and may never be.

 

[CUPLAYER1]

Very respectfully I cannot understand your logic here unless you are just not keeping up with what has occurred over the last 8 years. Joe Biden is not a good person at all and Trump while not a choir boy is a very good person related to loving America, keeping his campaign promises while in office and wanting America to be very successful and stay with the culture, history and values that made it what it has been. A vote for Joe Biden or any other democrat is a vote to destroy the America we grew up in and have known and watch it be washed down the drain into socialism and worse.

I have always wondered where the Trump is a racist rhetoric came from, but the "black jobs" comment last week was cringe at best.

I know there are plenty of white people who talk the talk but wouldn't/couldn't have a conversation with a black person if they had to.

 

[fatpiggy]

I have always wondered where the Trump is a racist rhetoric came from, but the "black jobs" comment last week was cringe at best.

I know there are plenty of white people who talk the talk but wouldn't/couldn't have a conversation with a black person if they had to.

Maybe you can give us a clue on “how to speak to black people”? Do they have a different language?

Gtfoh

 

[CUPLAYER1]

Maybe you can give us a clue on “how to speak to black people”? Do they have a different language?

Gtfoh

Lol. Typical.

I mean the insulated people who tend to be the policy makers and talk a big game. But they're only comfortable talking about the issues. They're insulated from it all. Like when RD sent the immigrants to Mass. They had no idea what to do....they don't live in the same world as we do. Pearl clutches is what they are. You get em near someone who lives it and they can't even function.

 

[CUPLAYER1]

So not being charged under a clearly biased justice system is the litmus test?

Guess what? Donald Trump is not a convicted felon and may never be.

Trumps issues predate his political career. He's never been a good guy by all accounts.

 

[fatpiggy]

Trumps issues predate his political career. He's never been a good guy by all accounts.

Actually there are several accounts of him being a good guy.

 

[CUPLAYER1]

Actually there are several accounts of him being a good guy.

I'm listening......

 

[JAMCRACKER99]

Biden is a good dude? Wow. I’m just at a loss at this ridiculous statement. Do you have any knowledge of Joe Biden and family?
You better vote for Trump like your life and country depends on it. Because it does.

Honest question ... do you believe Donald Trump to be a good man? Do you believe him to be an honest person who operates with a strong sense of integrity? Do you believe he loves this country more than himself? Do you believe he puts this country above himself?

 

[TigerRagRob]

Nah man. Married twice and was sworn in by his kid’s hospital bed two weeks after his wife and child died.

Great dude though

and a pedo it seems also...Just ask his own kids and look at the videos....

 

[TigerRagRob]

Honest question ... do you believe Donald Trump to be a good man? Do you believe him to be an honest person who operates with a strong sense of integrity? Do you believe he loves this country more than himself? Do you believe he puts this country above himself?

Yes I think Trump is a good person but not a perfect person. He has helped out a lot of people over the years and people that know him and worked for him loved him for the most part. Not the most integrity among those in office but more than most and way more than Biden, Clinton, Obama, or Bush. He does love the country? He doesnt have to do this(run for office). The guy has all the $$$ he would ever need and can be living a quiet easy life. But he chose to put himself out there for his country. He is the only one to lose wealth while in office while the rest get wealthy while in office with their insider trading and kickbacks, things you and I would go to jail for. He also donated his salary while in office. He's not perfect but nobody is...

 

[acwill07]

Honest question ... do you believe Donald Trump to be a good man? Do you believe him to be an honest person who operates with a strong sense of integrity? Do you believe he loves this country more than himself? Do you believe he puts this country above himself?

Of course the answers to all those questions are no. And this begins to illustrate what is wrong with the Republican Party currently. We've got a nominee who is only pretending to be a Republican and the far right worships this guy with an amount of zeal that would make John Brown blush. It's insane.

 

[CUPLAYER1]

Yes I think Trump is a good person but not a perfect person. He has helped out a lot of people over the years and people that know him and worked for him loved him for the most part. Not the most integrity among those in office but more than most and way more than Biden, Clinton, Obama, or Bush. He does love the country? He doesnt have to do this(run for office). The guy has all the $$$ he would ever need and can be living a quiet easy life. But he chose to put himself out there for his country. He is the only one to lose wealth while in office while the rest get wealthy while in office with their insider trading and kickbacks, things you and I would go to jail for. He also donated his salary while in office. He's not perfect but nobody is...

Good deeds don't make one a good person any more than an evil deed makes one an evil person. Shitty people do good things all the time. Good people make mistakes.

I'm not saying DT is the antichrist but he's far from a good person. And yes- he certainly lives himself more than anything else in the world, but the man knows big business and can orchestrate the economy like no one I've seen in my lifetime.

 

[amynhop]

Honest question ... do you believe Donald Trump to be a good man? Do you believe him to be an honest person who operates with a strong sense of integrity? Do you believe he loves this country more than himself? Do you believe he puts this country above himself?

I think there is a lot of good in Donald Trump. I believe like all of us…he has flaws and isn’t perfect. God used MANY imperfect people in the Bible for HIS purpose. No doubt Trump loves this country and it will be America first. I believe that with everything I am. TRUMP2024

 

[Dadar]

Good deeds don't make one a good person any more than an evil deed makes one an evil person. Shitty people do good things all the time. Good people make mistakes.

I'm not saying DT is the antichrist but he's far from a good person. And yes- he certainly lives himself more than anything else in the world, but the man knows big business and can orchestrate the economy like no one I've seen in my lifetime.

Trump's business record would indicate he is a really bad business person unless bankruptcy is good. He inherited $500,000,000.

Business career of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[dbjork6317]

I honestly believe Trump is a bad person. And Joe seems like a good dude.

But dammit I can't support the left's progressive social policies, much less their shitty economic record.

How do you reconcile voting for an ego maniac who appears to be racist (on the surface) vs supporting views that contradict everything I believe?

One is a guy whose policy you don’t agree with, the other is a guy who has openly stated he wants to be an authoritarian and has aims to completely undo the American rule of law. In 4 years you can vote for the policy you prefer.

 

[fatpiggy]

Of course the answers to all those questions are no. And this begins to illustrate what is wrong with the Republican Party currently. We've got a nominee who is only pretending to be a Republican and the far right worships this guy with an amount of zeal that would make John Brown blush. It's insane.

He is not pretending to be a Republican, he has taken over the republican party and made it the MAGA party. The traditional Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, type republicans got left in the dust and don't carry much political weight anymore.

 

[fatpiggy]

One is a guy whose policy you don’t agree with, the other is a guy who has openly stated he wants to be an authoritarian and has aims to completely undo the American rule of law. In 4 years you can vote for the policy you prefer.

You fell for the authoritarian hoax too?