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You wrote 3 paragraphs just to show you still don't get it. Comparing being overweight to how black people have been treated and continued to be treated in this country shows how out of touch from reality you truly are.

When you were young segregation still existed. Equal rights still hasn't come to fruition and its been 60+ years. Yet you still remain blind to it because you don't have to deal with it. Smh
Man I hear comparisons like that so often. Smh. Good point.
 
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According to Dictionary.com:

reparations​

[ rep-uh-rey-shuhnz ]





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plural noun
1. compensation in money, material, labor, etc., payable by a defeated country to another country or to an individual for loss suffered during or as a result of war ex: The U.S. government eventually disbursed reparations to Japanese Americans who had been interned during World War II.


2.monetary or other compensation payable by a country to an individual for a historical wrong ex: The article is about reparations to Black people for the enslavement of their ancestors.






So what country is paying for the false accusations about him?
Good ole Webster's

rep·a·ra·tion | \ ˌre-pə-ˈrā-shən \

Definition of reparation


1a: a repairing or keeping in repair
breparations plural : REPAIRS
2a: the act of making amends, offering expiation, or giving satisfaction for a wrong or injury
b: something done or given as amends or satisfaction
3: the payment of damages : INDEMNIFICATIONspecifically : compensation in money or materials payable by a defeated nation for damages to or expenditures sustained by another nation as a result of hostilities with the defeated nation —usually used in plural

Apparently can be used when no nation is involved. Imagine that we could still know what is meant by it. Interesting.
 
What the hell are you talking about? Segregation still existed? You have no idea where I grew up or what things were like. You're just talking out of your ass. I didn't compare being overweight being black. That's such a zero-sum argument that people without much understanding make. Out of touch? That's quite a statement to make for someone you don't even know or understand the lifestyle that that person lives. It's that kind of stupidity that is taking us backward. I'm the furthest thing in the world from out of touch but I do have a slightly different opinion than all the mouth breathers that are going around screaming racism at every turn. I've experienced racism and been beaten numerous times because of the color of my skin.

I experienced true integration before most anyone did because of where I grew up. It works but there's never going to be a case where everybody is truly treated equally. We're human beings and prejudices are going to exist on both sides. You've clearly demonstrated you have yours in this thread. Thank you for making my point for me.
Thank you for continuing to prove my point. Imagine experiencing racism in every aspect in your life. Work, education, getting loans, buying property, renting, driving, by police, ect, ect, ect. Yes, you are very out of touch and it doesn't take someone knowing you personally to figure out as much.
 
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Good ole Webster's

rep·a·ra·tion | \ ˌre-pə-ˈrā-shən \

Definition of reparation


1a: a repairing or keeping in repair
breparations plural : REPAIRS
2a: the act of making amends, offering expiation, or giving satisfaction for a wrong or injury
b: something done or given as amends or satisfaction
3: the payment of damages : INDEMNIFICATIONspecifically : compensation in money or materials payable by a defeated nation for damages to or expenditures sustained by another nation as a result of hostilities with the defeated nation —usually used in plural

Apparently can be used when no nation is involved. Imagine that we could still know what is meant by it. Interesting.
But I am pretty sure in this country when the word reperations is used it is, thought and considered to be, payments by the government for the wrongs of slavery over 150 years ago.
 
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But I am pretty sure in this country when the word reperations is used it is, thought and considered to be, payments by the government for the wrongs of slavery over 150 years ago.
I used it joking about Stafford. I joked in the context of Stafford being used and abused of course and he took the unjust punishment for years and the NFL owed him reparations. Same context but at the end of the day it was about being owed something for damages you sustained. Not race and not a country. Don't limit everyone else's thoughts because you choose to only see it one way.

I remember saying to my sister I ain't your slave. She knows what I meant without me having a deep discussion about slavery in America. It simply meant I ain't cleaning your room for free.
 
Just like if you see a woman walking a dog and someone points to them and says "She is a bitch", your first thoughts aren't "is that a female dog that lady is walking?".
As long as you're smart enough to allow yourself a second thought as a possibility you're fine.
 
Thank you for continuing to prove my point. Imagine experiencing racism in every aspect in your life. Work, education, getting loans, buying property, renting, driving, by police, ect, ect, ect. Yes, you are very out of touch and it doesn't take someone knowing you personally to figure out as much.

So basically, you are so invested in your victimhood that you're blinded by it. I pray you open your eyes eventually and see beyond pigmentation. Also it might help to do a little statistical analysis that will enable you to understand reality. But I am not going to fault you for being blinded by today's narratives. It's just tragic and unfortunate that it's happened this way. I wish we could sit down and talk because you don't know much about anything it seems. As a lender for the last 25 years, there is no discrimination against people because of what they look like. There hasn't been for quite some time. It's just absurd you actually believe all lot of this.
 
So basically, you are so invested in your victimhood that you're blinded by it. I pray you open your eyes eventually and see beyond pigmentation. Also it might help to do a little statistical analysis that will enable you to understand reality. But I am not going to fault you for being blinded by today's narratives. It's just tragic and unfortunate that it's happened this way. I wish we could sit down and talk because you don't know much about anything it seems. As a lender for the last 25 years, there is no discrimination against people because of what they look like. There hasn't been for quite some time. It's just absurd you actually believe all lot of this.
I'm all for statistics. Feel free to share anything you'd like that you use to form the opinion you have. I have time today.
 
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I used it joking about Stafford. I joked in the context of Stafford being used and abused of course and he took the unjust punishment for years and the NFL owed him reparations. Same context but at the end of the day it was about being owed something for damages you sustained. Not race and not a country. Don't limit everyone else's thoughts because you choose to only see it one way.

I remember saying to my sister I ain't your slave. She knows what I meant without me having a deep discussion about slavery in America. It simply meant I ain't cleaning your room for free.
But Stafford was white. Were he black the thought behind reparations would have been different. You and I both know that. I am just honest enough to admit it.
 
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So basically, you are so invested in your victimhood that you're blinded by it. I pray you open your eyes eventually and see beyond pigmentation. Also it might help to do a little statistical analysis that will enable you to understand reality. But I am not going to fault you for being blinded by today's narratives. It's just tragic and unfortunate that it's happened this way. I wish we could sit down and talk because you don't know much about anything it seems. As a lender for the last 25 years, there is no discrimination against people because of what they look like. There hasn't been for quite some time. It's just absurd you actually believe all lot of this.
Wow. No discrimination in lending or are you just speaking for yourself not discriminating? Serious question. People discriminate against white people because of what they look like, long hair, hippie looking, shaved head, etc making assumptions. Also might not be because they are white but they might not like that they are conservative white or liberal white. I recognize racism in my life a lot. Much of it's subtle and not real impactful. I ignore it. A lot of ignorant folks out here making distasteful and generalizing comments. It sucks. Recognizing it doesn't mean you invest in victimhood. You can still live your life accordingly and still be able to discuss the issues and say people need to do better.
 
But Stafford was white. Were he black the thought behind reparations would have been different. You and I both know that. I am just honest enough to admit it.
Absolutely. Ignorant people will immediately go to that as the ONLY possible explanation tho. In Watson's case it fits perfectly without race. I merely stated that the word isn't only used for race issues or a country being involved as you suggested with your limited definition. Just a coincidence that I used it recently. I looked at some comments on Twitter and even race happy Twitter didn't go to race like we did here. They discussed it as the word meaning what it means. However they did mention that message board Clemson fans turned it into a race issue. Good look.
 
Wow. No discrimination in lending or are you just speaking for yourself not discriminating? Serious question. People discriminate against white people because of what they look like, long hair, hippie looking, shaved head, etc making assumptions. Also might not be because they are white but they might not like that they are conservative white or liberal white. I recognize racism in my life a lot. Much of it's subtle and not real impactful. I ignore it. A lot of ignorant folks out here making distasteful and generalizing comments. It sucks. Recognizing it doesn't mean you invest in victimhood. You can still live your life accordingly and still be able to discuss the issues and say people need to do better.

My lending habits are audited monthly. They have been for my entire 25 years in this business. We have uniform guidelines that apply to everyone. It's been that way for so long. This isn't something new. I could go on and on listing cases that deal with this. It just flat doesn't happen because it can't and they are looking for it constantly. Besides, no one gives a damn because the commission earned isn't different because of what my client looks like. We fight for everyone!

As to the comments you're referring to. Consider a moment what's said about people who are conservative? They want to bring back Jim Crow. They are racist and hate the nation being made brown. Have you ever stopped to consider just how over the top comments like that are? The number one industry in this nation now is the production of discrimination and racism. We are desperate to manufacture as much of this as possible so we can forward narratives that allow us to take control of other people. It's despicable and so incredibly dangerous. Ridding ourselves of racism is an impossibility. Sadly, that will always exist on some level in one direction or another. Just like sexism will always be around at some level. The question is does it stop people from advancing and being successful? The answer to that is less so than ever before and we can keep making progress if we'll focus on reality rather than deciding to go backward with false narratives.

Those are just the facts.
 
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So Dabo inviting Dante Stewart to address team was bad idea by Dabo? Is Dabo a racist? Read Dante’s amazing book “shoutin in the fire.” Many of you would lose your minds!!!! I got inspired and called the man to let him know just how much. Thank you Dabo is all I can say. Rencher is light compared to Dante.
 
My lending habits are audited monthly. They have been for my entire 25 years in this business. We have uniform guidelines that apply to everyone. It's been that way for so long. This isn't something new. I could go on and on listing cases that deal with this. It just flat doesn't happen because it can't and they are looking for it constantly. Besides, no one give a damn because the commission earned isn't different regardless of what my client looks like. We fight for everyone!

As to the comments you're referring to. Consider a moment what's said about people who are conservative? They want to bring back Jim Crow. They are racist and hate the nation being made brown. Have you ever stopped to consider just how over the top comments like that are? The number one industry in this nation now is the production of discrimination and racism. We are desperate to manufacture as much of this as possible so we can forward narratives that allow us to take control of other people. It's despicable and so incredibly dangerous. Ridding ourselves of racism is an impossibility. Sadly, that will always exist on some level in one direction or another. Just like sexism will always be around at some level. The question is does it stop people from advancing and being successful? The answer to that is less so than ever before and we can keep making progress if we'll focus on reality rather than deciding to go backward with false narratives.

Those are just the facts.
My point is people can choose to discriminate however they want. Just because you haven't didn't mean others haven't. You can speak for yourself for sure. I laugh at you being so sure it hasn't happened in 25yrs but also saying sadly it will always be around. Just not the last 25yrs tho right?

Sounds like anytime someone brings up race it's a false narrative to you. You admit it's less now than ever. Can it be less now than ever but still bad? Luckily you don't view it through the same lense as I do otherwise you wouldn't think just not talking about it or addressing it somehow helps. Everyone being on the same page condemning it every chance they get pushes it away. To me that's the reason it got better and better. More people than ever rejected it. Once we allow it to appear again without immediately stomping it out it grows all over again and we lose ground. People making excuses saying just stop talking about it. Meanwhile it grows and grows. Those are facts from where I'm sitting.
 
The number one industry in this nation now is the production of discrimination and racism. We are desperate to manufacture as much of this as possible so we can forward narratives that allow us to take control of other people.
Good gracious, naw.
Ridding ourselves of racism is an impossibility. Sadly, that will always exist
Agree with this. But we can do better, it should not be used as an excuse.
 
Good gracious, naw.

Agree with this. But we can do better, it should not be used as an excuse.

It's not an excuse. It's just a reality. Of course we can do better and should always strive to be better. I have always advocated that we just leave the bigots behind. They want to exist their world of ignorance and hate, go for it. There's no law against being stupid. As long as people have the ability to make their way to success, that's all that really matters. When it's a cottage industry to fabricate hate (see Smollett as an example) crimes and racial attacks, we've got a toxic racial climate in our country. That's going on all over the place. We're better than this.
 
It’s ok to talk about history that made this country great? We celebrate and memorialize the fore fathers but it’s NOT ok to talk about how what happened historically continues to contribute to the divisions we feel today?
There is absolutely no one other than the small percentage of troglodytes that doesn’t recognize the history and how African Americans were treated. However, the desire to label everyone a victim today is far more divisive than racism itself now days. This country has completely shifted when it comes to their views, and if you want to continue to focus on the 1960s, that’s on you. The very fact that this thread is about an African American gettin paid 230m for 5 years when he may or may not even be allowed to play next year defeats your entire argument. Is there work to do on equality, sure, is it what you clowns make it out to be for political reasons, not even close.
 
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You confidently typed this and I don't doubt any of what you just said from YOUR perspective. However it is light years different than any experience I had during the same time period you'respeaking of. Your experience with race relations is totally different from mine.

Until you start believing, understanding and maybe even accepting that what you described is totally not true to much of America we'll keep repeating this over and over. And you believe more racists are being made? So being upset that people keep talking about race or maybe at worst crying racism is there is enough to make people racist or create racist? If that's the case with as often as I've experienced racism I should have turned into one myself. Nah. I have far too many white folks in my life that I love unconditionally to let some racist folks make me turn into one.

Funny thing is many of my white friends exist with no difference in their lives in this new woke culture ad you call it. They've always considered the plight of their black friends and their life hasn't changed recently because they don't feel attacked because they know they are not the ones people are talking about. Their words not mine. Reading your post you sound really passionate about this topic. You sound like you're fed up. I feel you on that. Me too. But in a totally different way.

First, I appreciate your decision not to go on a personal attack, like many feel the necessity to do. This is an important topic, and one that needs to be discussed, and not cancelled. Back in the 1970s we could talk about race relations. And there could be agreement and disagreement. But now, if the mainstream doesn't agree with you, they silence you, and cancel you.

I spent three (3) years of my nine (9) year Army service in Germany (1978-1981). I served with, trained with, partied with, soldiers of different races and ethnic background...black, Hispanic, oriental, etc. There was virtually none of what you see happening right now. Only on one occasion, where a white soldier from Alabama showed me his KKK card, was I exposed to the type of hate and racism that I see now. And, I'm glad he showed me that KKK card, because I avoided him from that point on. So, for three (3) years in Germany, that country where Nazi Fascism started, I did not encounter the type of racial polarization and hatred that I see in the streets of this country, the media, and the schools, that I see right now. You can deny this all you want, or say that all the white racists were in the closet, and they just chose to come out now. I contend that over the decades that this was a planned and scripted move to cause racial polarization (or much more racial polarization).

But again I appreciate to kind demeanor in discussing this, because you rarely see that these days. God bless you.
 
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There is absolutely no one other than the small percentage of troglodytes that doesn’t recognize the history and how African Americans were treated. However, the desire to label everyone a victim today is far more divisive than racism itself now days. This country has completely shifted when it comes to their views, and if you want to continue to focus on the 1960s, that’s on you. The very fact that this thread is about an African American gettin paid 230m for 5 years when he may or may not even be allowed to play next year defeats your entire argument. Is there work to do on equality, sure, is it what you clowns make it out to be for political reasons, not even close.
Statisticly speaking, based on per-capita, blacks are still not treated equally in this country and politicians have continued to create laws that disproportionately target them. Laws created and passed by both parties.
 
Statisticly speaking, based on per-capita, blacks are still not treated equally in this country and politicians have continued to create laws that disproportionately target them. Laws created and passed by both parties.
Yes, there may be a little work left to be done, but It isn’t even close to the amount of discussion this gets. It’s ridiculous and tired. African Americans are thriving in sports, movies, business, and many other categories yet our politicians and media still talk as if we are living in the 60s. Sounds like you and your ilk are buying it hook line and sinker. Again, this entire thread is about an African American making 230M over 5 years when no one has a clue about when he will play again. Yet you continue to assign victim status to this guy, who just because he is black and from Clemson, you don’t care about the over 2 dozen sexual assault claims he has against him. Says more about you than me.
 
You wrote 3 paragraphs just to show you still don't get it. Comparing being overweight to how black people have been treated and continued to be treated in this country shows how out of touch from reality you truly are.

When you were young segregation still existed. Equal rights still hasn't come to fruition and its been 60+ years. Yet you still remain blind to it because you don't have to deal with it. Smh
You haven't a clue. SMFH.
 
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Yes, there may be a little work left to be done, but It isn’t even close to the amount of discussion this gets. It’s ridiculous and tired. African Americans are thriving in sports, movies, business, and many other categories yet our politicians and media still talk as if we are living in the 60s. Sounds like you and your ilk are buying it hook line and sinker. Again, this entire thread is about an African American making 230M over 5 years when no one has a clue about when he will play again. Yet you continue to assign victim status to this guy, who just because he is black and from Clemson, you don’t care about the over 2 dozen sexual assault claims he has against him. Says more about you than me.
Glad they are good at entertaining you. It's 2022! There shouldn't be any racial injustices anymore. "They should be happy because some get paid now" smh
 
Glad they are good at entertaining you. It's 2022! There shouldn't be any racial injustices anymore. "They should be happy because some get paid now" smh
I tried to have a logical discussion with you, but now a realize you’re just a cvnt who will always look for some sort of injustice instead of accepting personal responsibility. Congrats on being a first class bitch.
 
First, I appreciate your decision not to go on a personal attack, like many feel the necessity to do. This is an important topic, and one that needs to be discussed, and not cancelled. Back in the 1970s we could talk about race relations. And there could be agreement and disagreement. But now, if the mainstream doesn't agree with you, they silence you, and cancel you.

I spent three (3) years of my nine (9) year Army service in Germany (1978-1981). I served with, trained with, partied with, soldiers of different races and ethnic background...black, Hispanic, oriental, etc. There was virtually none of what you see happening right now. Only on one occasion, where a white soldier from Alabama showed me his KKK card, was I exposed to the type of hate and racism that I see now. And, I'm glad he showed me that KKK card, because I avoided him from that point on. So, for three (3) years in Germany, that country where Nazi Fascism started, I did not encounter the type of racial polarization and hatred that I see in the streets of this country, the media, and the schools, that I see right now. You can deny this all you want, or say that all the white racists were in the closet, and they just chose to come out now. I contend that over the decades that this was a planned and scripted move to cause racial polarization (or much more racial polarization).

But again I appreciate to kind demeanor in discussing this, because you rarely see that these days. God bless you.
Your description of your response to your contact is probably why you didn't see much racism. Many times people who are racist will avoid someone like you because you won't tolerate it. The problem is it them seems like there's no racism because you're not racist and none of your friends are. Things must be better right? Meanwhile your black friends may be suffering in silence.

I don't share with my white friends what I go through all the time. It's just not worth it and its exhausting to talk about. Now some of it they've seen on their own and they were livid. Many of them were honestly like you. Really believing things were better. Now they themselves notice it more in other situations and they'll actually call me and share. Times in the grocery store, on the job, etc. They wonder how many times they must've missed it over the years just not paying attention. Are they woke now? They don't speak up everytime and i recommended they don't. It can be a little overwhelming so pick your spots.

I got a million stories man and I'm not proud of any of them. It sucks. It's still happening. I would love not to ever discuss it again. I'm about as clean cut as they come, as law abiding as a person can be. I still get it. Imagine folks that look the least bit shady.

The media sucks. Our leadership in govt sucks. All of them. Not just one side and not just recently. They are all crooks that have sold out the American people. They pour gasoline on any issue but that doesn't mean the issue doesn't exist tho. They do a great job of playing it in a way that has the different groups at each other's throats. Meanwhile they rob us all blind both monetarily and morally.

And yes a bunch of racists were closeted. Racism was not as cool so you had to operate carefully because they risked running into someone like you. The anonymity of social media reinvigorated them in my opinion and created a way to connect and operate openly again. Just some opinions because I certainly don't have any answers beyond average Joe citizen saying hell no to this mess. Too many people excusing bad behavior.
 
Yes, there may be a little work left to be done, but It isn’t even close to the amount of discussion this gets. It’s ridiculous and tired. African Americans are thriving in sports, movies, business, and many other categories yet our politicians and media still talk as if we are living in the 60s. Sounds like you and your ilk are buying it hook line and sinker. Again, this entire thread is about an African American making 230M over 5 years when no one has a clue about when he will play again. Yet you continue to assign victim status to this guy, who just because he is black and from Clemson, you don’t care about the over 2 dozen sexual assault claims he has against him. Says more about you than me.
Yeah because nothing says racism is dead like a guy making $230 million or hell even a black president.

No one is saying every white person is racist. Once you stop feeling attacked because someone attacks racism we can move forward. If you are NOT RACIST then when racism is called out you don't have to jump in front of the bullets as if they are calling you a racist. They are calling the person that did the racist act a racist. They are the horrible person. Not you. This is not about all white people. It's about racist people. Too many good folks making excuses or trying to come up with reasons why that act might not be racist. No need to defend them. I've seen people do something racist, realize it on their own, correct themselves, meanwhile others trying to argue that it wasn't racist. Smh
 
Yeah because nothing says racism is dead like a guy making $230 million or hell even a black president.

No one is saying every white person is racist. Once you stop feeling attacked because someone attacks racism we can move forward. If you are NOT RACIST then when racism is called out you don't have to jump in front of the bullets as if they are calling you a racist. They are calling the person that did the racist act a racist. They are the horrible person. Not you. This is not about all white people. It's about racist people. Too many good folks making excuses or trying to come up with reasons why that act might not be racist. No need to defend them. I've seen people do something racist, realize it on their own, correct themselves, meanwhile others trying to argue that it wasn't racist. Smh
Perfect example of being a victim. If you look for racism you’ll damn sure find it. Quit being a bitch and man up. Everyone has ample opportunity to succeed in this country, so get the fvck over it
 
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