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Can the corporate media provoke a fight between the two most popular GOP politicians​



Really? You(not you growls, but the writer) have to be a complete and utter moron to ask that question. It was NOT the media who provoked a fight, if one exists. It was Trump basically threatening Desantis(in the media, no less) if he runs for potus. If there is a fight between Trump and Desantis, it is bc Trump walked up and slapped him in the face in public.

Also, fox is by far the largest most influential network that had hosts that supported and defended trump- even up to this day. If many of them now turn their support to Desantis, that has to tell you something. There has been STRONG support for trump from many of that networks most popular hosts for years. How/why would they become part of some conspiratorial uniparty against him now. I am not saying much of the "establishment" in the pub party has not been against him from the beginning. I am saying it makes no sense that those who supported Trump on fox would somehow just switch their support to Desantis bc they just decided to be come part of the "uniparty".
We havent seen what the prime time hosts on Fox will do if Trump and Desantis both run. Its just obvious to see the media narrative that was put in motion yesterday. Fox is still controlled media. They are only in place to give conservatives a way to vent and they make a lot of money doing it.
 
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There is some truth in this statement.

It's not going to matter, Desantis is the guy now. Trump continues to Trump......ie, hurting himself with stupid public statements, which shores up his presidency. Would institute a decent policy and then totally ruin the effort with a social media public dispute with a Lebron James for example.

Trump needs to do the Conservatives a favor and take a back seat.
 
It's not going to matter, Desantis is the guy now. Trump continues to Trump......ie, hurting himself with stupid public statements, which shores up his presidency. Would institute a decent policy and then totally ruin the effort with a social media public dispute with a Lebron James for example.

Trump needs to do the Conservatives a favor and take a back seat.
You could be right. We will see how it plays out.
 
Some of you are lost. Donald Trump can’t win and peels off a ton of voters who could otherwise vote R. He lost by 8M votes in 2020 and only became more unpopular after the election. He’s toast. Accept it.
Just remember voting for an establishment republican is the same as voting for a establishment democrat. They belong to the same group and are loyal to the establishment not the democrat or republican party's. I refuse to bend the knee to the establishment again. They gain power and wealth at the expense of us plebs. We pay for their gains with blood and treasure and they laugh at us and mock us while they do it. The sheep just stay the course and vote against our own best interest supporting the establishment from both sides. I hope one day many of you wake up and see things for how they really are. I am and I support the populist movement. I will support populist either on the left or right. Once the establishment has been defeated we can have normal political debates and talk about how to make all our lives better. While we may not agree on how to do that we wont be trying to kill each other either...
 
Just remember voting for an establishment republican is the same as voting for a establishment democrat. They belong to the same group and are loyal to the establishment not the democrat or republican party's. I refuse to bend the knee to the establishment again. They gain power and wealth at the expense of us plebs. We pay for their gains with blood and treasure and they laugh at us and mock us while they do it. The sheep just stay the course and vote against our own best interest supporting the establishment from both sides. I hope one day many of you wake up and see things for how they really are. I am and I support the populist movement. I will support populist either on the left or right. Once the establishment has been defeated we can have normal political debates and talk about how to make all our lives better. While we may not agree on how to do that we wont be trying to kill each other either...
I don't necessarily disagree with any of this. In fact, I pretty much think it's spot on. I'd gladly vote for a competent, worthy, decent, ethical, moral populist candidate who didn't have designs on becoming an American Caesar. Trump is exactly the opposite of what I just described. He's scum of the earth and just plays to the lowest common denominator. His most ardent supporters are poorly educated, racist, violent people, who have no interest in democracy.

So if it's necessary to keep voting for establishment candidates in order to preserve democracy, that’s a small price to pay.
 
Just remember voting for an establishment republican is the same as voting for a establishment democrat. They belong to the same group and are loyal to the establishment not the democrat or republican party's. I refuse to bend the knee to the establishment again. They gain power and wealth at the expense of us plebs. We pay for their gains with blood and treasure and they laugh at us and mock us while they do it. The sheep just stay the course and vote against our own best interest supporting the establishment from both sides. I hope one day many of you wake up and see things for how they really are. I am and I support the populist movement. I will support populist either on the left or right. Once the establishment has been defeated we can have normal political debates and talk about how to make all our lives better. While we may not agree on how to do that we wont be trying to kill each other either...

I know this is your new passion project or whatever, but you may be taking it a bit far… A populist on the left is Bernie Sanders. You’re saying you would vote for Bernie if Desantis appears to get establishment support? You realize that’s insane, right?

Speaking of paying with our treasure - you support a populist on the left and there will be a lot more to pay. Unless you’re a poor I guess.

I don’t like “the establishment” either, but I hope this is message board bluster and you possess a deeper ability to logically evaluate realistic options.
 


Republicans think about that and remember we only expected to win the house two weeks ago and we have done that. They sandbagged us the last 7-10 days talking about us winning the senate have has as much as 57 seats. That was done for a reason. So when we only win what we was expected to win, that seems like a lose and we blame Trump like we/he failed. Fact is we didnt lose and we may win the senate anyway which would exceed what was expected two weeks ago...

Please don't spin. This was a disaster. And putting up Trump's endorsement record (he did this himself yesterday like a total bafoon) is disingenuous in the extreme. He endorsed Brian Kemp the night before the election and takes credit for the endorsement. I could go and a stunning winning streak endorsing candidates if I wanted to. You could do it as well. It's so damn dishonest and an exercise in stupidity. The candidates he picked that he pushed hard didn't do well. His time is past.

I'm sure he'll still run and many folks like me WILL NOT vote for him again. I am done! If a good candidate ran in Georgia for the Senate he/she would have won. If a good candidate in Pennsylvania had run, they probably would have won. If a good candidate in Arizona would have run, they would have a good chance at winning. Where good candidates ran in areas that were winnable, they largely won. You can doom yourself to the same mistakes over and over again but I'm not going there and will shout from every mountaintop what needs to be said so these mistakes aren't repeated yet again. No excuse making. No spinning. No distorting reality for our benefit.

There is some truth in this statement.


And there would be no President Trump without the white nationalist vote. Does that mean they own him or that he owes them? Of course not, but it's the logic you're using here that the left used to say such ridiculous things over the past 6+ years. Do you really want to go there again?
 
Just remember voting for an establishment republican is the same as voting for a establishment democrat. They belong to the same group and are loyal to the establishment not the democrat or republican party's. I refuse to bend the knee to the establishment again. They gain power and wealth at the expense of us plebs. We pay for their gains with blood and treasure and they laugh at us and mock us while they do it. The sheep just stay the course and vote against our own best interest supporting the establishment from both sides. I hope one day many of you wake up and see things for how they really are. I am and I support the populist movement. I will support populist either on the left or right. Once the establishment has been defeated we can have normal political debates and talk about how to make all our lives better. While we may not agree on how to do that we wont be trying to kill each other either...

Do some history brother. Populism just removes and establishment and puts in place another. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. This is a thing that is pretty much always true. A so called movement disrupts and replaces an establishment group only to form a new elite. That's why the rule of law is so important. It's why self-determinism is such a vital concept. It's why limited government and personal responsibility are so important. The best way to solve what concerns you is to go that route. Not the route of someone like Trump who will spend us into oblivion and waste away the wonderful fabric of this nation as he cultivates everything to revolve around him.
 
He didn't win the last time he ran and his reputation worse now than it was then. How you think he can possibly get more votes now than he did then is insane. What makes you think he would win now when he lost two yrs ago?
You are simply wrong in your thinking. I know multiple people who have never voted for democrat that did not vote for Trump in 2020, and would not vote for him now no matter who else was on the ballot. The fact that you can not understand why people would do this has no impact on the FACT that it happened all across the country and would happen again. You can try and explain away some of these races with the crappy candidate argument(and you are not wrong), but how do you explain away Trump losing?
I really hope you are right, but nobody inspires white, rural, disaffected Americans to go out and vote like trump does. And in 2016 we learned just how big that segment of the population is.

I think he lost the last one (which was close) because people were tired of having a toddler in the White House. But the middle class votes with their wallet and Biden is blamed for inflation, a slowing economy, and worries of tax increases. The lazy, apathetic, American typically doesn’t vote in elections other than Prez so I don’t think we should read too much into the midterms.

I would love nothing more than for him to be relegated to irrelevance, but he is like that turd that just won’t flush down the toilet.
 
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I really hope you are right, but nobody inspires the trailer park crowd to put down their Busch Light and go out an vote like trump does. And in 2016 we learned just how big that segment of the population is.

I think he lost the last one (which was close) because people were tired of having a toddler in the White House. But the middle class votes with their wallet and Biden is blamed for inflation, a slowing economy, and worries of tax increases. The lazy, apathetic, American typically doesn’t vote in elections other than Prez so I don’t think we should read too much into the midterms.

I would love nothing more than for him to be relegated to irrelevance, but he is like that turd that just won’t flush down the toilet.
2016 also potentially an outlier perpetuated by Hillary as the competition, much like Trump, I think she was hard for some Left Centers to vote for. The reverse happened in 2020, Trump was hard for Right Centers to vote for. I think the same problem with likely persist in 2024 if he runs, as evidenced by the rejection of his backed candidates.

The Trump experiment appears to be at the beginning of the end. Time for him to fade off into the background, which is the advice the GOP friendlies should be giving him.
 
2016 also potentially an outlier perpetuated by Hillary as the competition, much like Trump, I think she was hard for some Left Centers to vote for. The reverse happened in 2020, Trump was hard for Right Centers to vote for. I think the same problem with likely persist in 2024 if he runs, as evidenced by the rejection of his backed candidates.

The Trump experiment appears to be at the beginning of the end. Time for him to fade off into the background, which is the advice the GOP friendlies should be giving him.

y’all are funny man. For seven years you have defended trumpty dumpty at every turn. Made excuses for his awful behavior, claimed that when you see a video of him saying something “that’s not what he meant!” And of course used a non stop whataboutism in his defense.

and now that you see that he is a political liability, you think you can just easily discard him and move on. You created this monster and unleashed him on the citizens of this great country. He isn’t going anywhere. He will be your nominee in 2024.
 
y’all are funny man. For seven years you have defended trumpty dumpty at every turn. Made excuses for his awful behavior, claimed that when you see a video of him saying something “that’s not what he meant!” And of course used a non stop whataboutism in his defense.

and now that you see that he is a political liability, you think you can just easily discard him and move on. You created this monster and unleashed him on the citizens of this great country. He isn’t going anywhere. He will be your nominee in 2024.
Receipts would go a long way here but you don't have them as several people on here have said they didn't want him to run again in 2024 starting right after J6. Pretty consistent message from all but a few.

What most rational people have defended him against is the overwhelming amount of backdoor tactics using certain Govt. agencies against him politically, much like this recent classified document thing that has totally vanished from the public sphere yet again as it jeopardizes our system and creates an endless cycle of system abuse against the other party.

If Pubs take control this cycle, you'll be on here doing the same when they go after your Daddy Biden and his corrupt AF son Hunter along with Pelosi, Mayorkas, Garland and whatever soft as f*cking charmin elected officials you donate to. We all know that's bound to happen if control flips so save us the whataboutism nonsense as you'll be spewing it in due course.

I told you the other day that it was the Desantis show, maybe shut your mouth and open your ears so you can learn something.......metaphorically of course.
 
2016 also potentially an outlier perpetuated by Hillary as the competition, much like Trump, I think she was hard for some Left Centers to vote for. The reverse happened in 2020, Trump was hard for Right Centers to vote for. I think the same problem with likely persist in 2024 if he runs, as evidenced by the rejection of his backed candidates.

The Trump experiment appears to be at the beginning of the end. Time for him to fade off into the background, which is the advice the GOP friendlies should be giving him.
All good points and hope you are right! I believe (and a few of my die-hard republican friends have suggested) that he is running because he knows becoming president again is his best chance to stay out of jail.
 
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I really hope you are right, but nobody inspires the trailer park crowd to put down their Busch Light and go out an vote like trump does. And in 2016 we learned just how big that segment of the population is.

Do you really think such bigotry and condescending language is the answer? It's amazing what we see when folks take off their masks and show us who they are.
 
Receipts would go a long way here but you don't have them as several people on here have said they didn't want him to run again in 2024 starting right after J6. Pretty consistent message from all but a few.

What most rational people have defended him against is the overwhelming amount of backdoor tactics using certain Govt. agencies against him politically, much like this recent classified document thing that has totally vanished from the public sphere yet again as it jeopardizes our system and creates an endless cycle of system abuse against the other party.

If Pubs take control this cycle, you'll be on here doing the same when they go after your Daddy Biden and his corrupt AF son Hunter along with Pelosi, Mayorkas, Garland and whatever soft as f*cking charmin elected officials you donate to. We all know that's bound to happen if control flips so save us the whataboutism nonsense as you'll be spewing it in due course.

I told you the other day that it was the Desantis show, maybe shut your mouth and open your ears so you can learn something.......metaphorically of course.

it’s hilarious. You loved trumps sophomoric antics when he was owning the libs. Now he is going to turn that sideshow squarely on the republicans and you want him gone.

trump will be your candidate in 2024. You cannot change that.
 
2016 also potentially an outlier perpetuated by Hillary as the competition, much like Trump, I think she was hard for some Left Centers to vote for. The reverse happened in 2020, Trump was hard for Right Centers to vote for. I think the same problem with likely persist in 2024 if he runs, as evidenced by the rejection of his backed candidates.

The Trump experiment appears to be at the beginning of the end. Time for him to fade off into the background, which is the advice the GOP friendlies should be giving him.
It's great to see you coming around but it's sad that it took a shitty mid-term for you to see the light and not the insurrection. This about face should have happened 22 months ago.
 
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You're right. That was a low blow. I'm going to delete that comment.
You shouldn't allow him to guilt you into deleting your post. There will be a thread 5 pages long with MAGAs repeatedly calling us pedos, baby killers and pussies and he won't say a word until one of us punches back. He then becomes morally outraged that we responded in kind and sermonizes about the way we speak to them. He's a fraud.
 
You're right. That was a low blow. I'm going to delete that comment.

Good for you man! Thank you.

You shouldn't allow him to guilt you into deleting your post. There will be a thread 5 pages long with MAGAs repeatedly calling us pedos, baby killers and pussies and he won't say a word until one of us punches back. He then becomes morally outraged that we responded in kind and sermonizes about the way we speak to them. He's a fraud.

That really bothers you doesn't it? I have called that stuff out many times but one thing you miss is that I don't read a lot of the right wing stuff here. I am not the board moderator. I like debate and discussion so I only see it in those threads. But there are several posts that I've taken stands against stupid stuff. I would give anything to get Tigergrowls to wake up from his Trump induced coma. At least there's some reason. You guys link Eric Swalwell like somehow he is legitimate in any way. Call balls and strikes for your own side. If you did, you'd see what a bad guy someone like him is. Instead, you read and celebrate his commentary. That's just wow!
 
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You shouldn't allow him to guilt you into deleting your post. There will be a thread 5 pages long with MAGAs repeatedly calling us pedos, baby killers and pussies and he won't say a word until one of us punches back. He then becomes morally outraged that we responded in kind and sermonizes about the way we speak to them. He's a fraud.
That's strong coming from you.......you've been air punching and name calling for 2 + years now. Are you justifying that approach because a few folks don't agree with you?
 
it’s hilarious. You loved trumps sophomoric antics when he was owning the libs. Now he is going to turn that sideshow squarely on the republicans and you want him gone.

trump will be your candidate in 2024. You cannot change that.
Receipts?
 
You shouldn't allow him to guilt you into deleting your post. There will be a thread 5 pages long with MAGAs repeatedly calling us pedos, baby killers and pussies and he won't say a word until one of us punches back. He then becomes morally outraged that we responded in kind and sermonizes about the way we speak to them. He's a fraud.
Doesn't matter. It was a low blow and I shouldn't have said it. I don't care what others say, I can only control what I say.
 
It's great to see you coming around but it's sad that it took a shitty mid-term for you to see the light and not the insurrection. This about face should have happened 22 months ago.
The issue you need to work on for your own sanity is Trump still hasn't been found guilty of a single crime. That doesn't mean he should get the nod from Republicans to run in 2024 but it sure does highlight how an entire Govt has gone after him for 6 years and still hasn't produced anything more than a potential white collar fraud case which is also in limbo. That won't change before 2024.

As much as you will refute this, the left, the left controlled media and folks like yourself are the reason he's still around. He would have faded into oblivion if you would just stop making him relevant.
 
Good for you man! Thank you.



That really bothers you doesn't it? I have called that stuff out many times but one thing you miss is that I don't read a lot of the right wing stuff here. I am not the board moderator. I like debate and discussion so I only see it in those threads. But there are several posts that I've taken stands against stupid stuff. I would give anything to get Tigergrowls to wake up from his Trump induced coma. At least there's some reason. You guys link Eric Swalwell like somehow he is legitimate in any way. Call balls and strikes for your own side. If you did, you'd see what a bad guy someone like him is. Instead, you read and celebrate his commentary. That's just wow!
Funny how you don't read it until we respond. You do read it but you don't care as long as they're owning the libs. But as soon as one of us owns the reds, you become a sanctimonious prick that believes we should be cast into a fiery pit. Stop lying.

Also, I don't need you to tell me how I should feel about a politician or who I should regard as legitimate. I probably know much more about them than you. I'll share who and what I want. Got it?
 
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That's strong coming from you.......you've been air punching and name calling for 2 + years now. Are you justifying that approach because a few folks don't agree with you?
I need to justify speaking to the right side of the board in their language? LOL

There has been a tsunami of nasty lies, conspiracies, despicable handles and avatars going around the last few years and I make it a point to challenge them. I'd prefer to be nicer but I'm just fighting fire with fire haha

I believe some of you need reminding that being a lib doesn't make one a snowflake. 😉
 
The issue you need to work on for your own sanity is Trump still hasn't been found guilty of a single crime. That doesn't mean he should get the nod from Republicans to run in 2024 but it sure does highlight how an entire Govt has gone after him for 6 years and still hasn't produced anything more than a potential white collar fraud case which is also in limbo. That won't change before 2024.

As much as you will refute this, the left, the left controlled media and folks like yourself are the reason he's still around. He would have faded into oblivion if you would just stop making him relevant.
Doesn't matter what the courts or the media say. You are a witness to the same things we've seen. Odd how innocently you viewed it before..... before you realized it would be costly election-wise.

Don't blame us for keeping him relevant...he would be long gone without the support from people like you.
 
2016 also potentially an outlier perpetuated by Hillary as the competition, much like Trump, I think she was hard for some Left Centers to vote for. The reverse happened in 2020, Trump was hard for Right Centers to vote for. I think the same problem with likely persist in 2024 if he runs, as evidenced by the rejection of his backed candidates.

The Trump experiment appears to be at the beginning of the end. Time for him to fade off into the background, which is the advice the GOP friendlies should be giving him.
True, plus she campaigned like a complete idiot. Avoiding rural America like the plague because she thought she didn't need their votes.
 
Doesn't matter what the courts or the media say. You are a witness to the same things we've seen. Odd how innocently you viewed it before..... before you realized it would be costly election-wise.

Don't blame us for keeping him relevant...he would be long gone without the support from people like you.
It does matter what the courts say, in fact that's all that matters. Otherwise, what's the f*cking point of wasting everyone's tax contributions and govt resources that could be actually fighting legitimate crime (like Pelosi's insider trading), if there was never a crime to charge him with?

People like me weren't supporting him though, we were supporting the fairness and even application of the law which I've said about 2 million times. You can't treat him differently because he's offensive and sends mean tweets.......he has to actually break a legitimate law , not a made up one. By having his name blasted on the front page of CNN EVERY SINGLE DAY.......he's remained at the forefront of attention so it's not just his supporters keeping him relevant.

Trump will be an after thought in about a month, the left will start going after Desantis now.
 
Funny how you don't read it until we respond. You do read it but you don't care as long as they're owning the libs. But as soon as one of us owns the reds, you become a sanctimonious prick that believes we should be cast into a fiery pit. Stop lying.

Also, I don't need you to tell me how I should feel about a politician or who I should regard as legitimate. I probably know much more about them than you. I'll share who and what I want. Got it?
No one has to own the libs.........they continue to own themselves and this is why..........Fetterman for president Is about the stupidest statement I've seen come out of anyone's mouth that wasn't Biden's.

 
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Funny how you don't read it until we respond. You do read it but you don't care as long as they're owning the libs. But as soon as one of us owns the reds, you become a sanctimonious prick that believes we should be cast into a fiery pit. Stop lying.

Also, I don't need you to tell me how I should feel about a politician or who I should regard as legitimate. I probably know much more about them than you. I'll share who and what I want. Got it?

Got it. I love you man. I love your posts. I'm not one who thinks himself a genius but you do a better job than anyone else I have ever met of making me look smart. Don't stop being you. I would be crushed if you did. :)
 
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The issue you need to work on for your own sanity is Trump still hasn't been found guilty of a single crime. That doesn't mean he should get the nod from Republicans to run in 2024 but it sure does highlight how an entire Govt has gone after him for 6 years and still hasn't produced anything more than a potential white collar fraud case which is also in limbo. That won't change before 2024.

As much as you will refute this, the left, the left controlled media and folks like yourself are the reason he's still around. He would have faded into oblivion if you would just stop making him relevant.

As much as you will refute this, the left, the left controlled media and folks like yourself are the reason he's still around. He would have faded into oblivion if you would just stop making him relevant.

Yes, it's the left's fault that trump is still around. All those lefties that attend trump rallies wearing MAGA and QANON gear. All those lib politicians that are afraid to say anything bad about him lest they be bullied on social media.
 
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As much as you will refute this, the left, the left controlled media and folks like yourself are the reason he's still around. He would have faded into oblivion if you would just stop making him relevant.

Yes, it's the left's fault that trump is still around. All those lefties that attend trump rallies wearing MAGA and QANON gear. All those lib politicians that are afraid to say anything bad about him lest they be bullied on social media.

This is another example of you misunderstanding what Trump is and why people support him. He's a pretty detestable personality and that is unfold display right now to be sure. But when he's gone we'll have the same problems because folks like you fail to recognize and understand why he's popular. As such we'll continue to have a lot of underrepresented and totally unrepresented people in this country. I'm sure somewhere in your reply we'll get to the part where they're all bigots and racist and rednecks and all the usual kind of insulting things you hurl at people you don't understand and aren't like you.
 
It does matter what the courts say, in fact that's all that matters. Otherwise, what's the f*cking point of wasting everyone's tax contributions and govt resources that could be actually fighting legitimate crime (like Pelosi's insider trading), if there was never a crime to charge him with?

People like me weren't supporting him though, we were supporting the fairness and even application of the law which I've said about 2 million times. You can't treat him differently because he's offensive and sends mean tweets.......he has to actually break a legitimate law , not a made up one. By having his name blasted on the front page of CNN EVERY SINGLE DAY.......he's remained at the forefront of attention so it's not just his supporters keeping him relevant.

Trump will be an after thought in about a month, the left will start going after Desantis now.

How long was john durham's investigation? Five years? How much taxpayer money was wasted on that one? If we were going to give durham five years to produce jack shit, don't you think investigations into trump should be given more than two years? I mean, the american people spoke very clearly this week that threats to democracy are a major issue.
 
The issue you need to work on for your own sanity is Trump still hasn't been found guilty of a single crime. That doesn't mean he should get the nod from Republicans to run in 2024 but it sure does highlight how an entire Govt has gone after him for 6 years and still hasn't produced anything more than a potential white collar fraud case which is also in limbo. That won't change before 2024.

As much as you will refute this, the left, the left controlled media and folks like yourself are the reason he's still around. He would have faded into oblivion if you would just stop making him relevant.
Using the “he hasn’t been charged with anything” defense is pretty myopic considering all the Clinton hate from you and the other Rs in the past. Hilary has been in the eyes of the right since the early 90s (mainly through her husbands infidelities and issues during presidency and before.)

Im not going to be saying anything that everybody doesn’t already know, but it’s pretty obvious this country’s beyond repair. The media, driven purely by click bait and engagement figures, exists now to solely create discord between both sides as a way to increase views. I, truly, don’t know how to fix it, but I don’t see America coming out the other end for the better. Maybe it’s bc I’m a pessimist but I think the repealing of the fairness doctrine and the invention of the internet have done more to damage this country than really anything else could.
 
This is another example of you misunderstanding what Trump is and why people support him. He's a pretty detestable personality and that is unfold display right now to be sure. But when he's gone we'll have the same problems because folks like you fail to recognize and understand why he's popular. As such we'll continue to have a lot of underrepresented and totally unrepresented people in this country. I'm sure somewhere in your reply we'll get to the part where they're all bigots and racist and rednecks and all the usual kind of insulting things you hurl at people you don't understand and aren't like you.

You wrote a lot of words but did not even address my post. blaming trump on the dems is idiocy. Dems don't vote in republican primaries.

And I hope the irony isn't lost on you. For weeks, you lectured us about an impending red wave. That didn't happen, not even close. But it has not humbled you one bit. You still act like a sanctimonious prick, constantly telling me and others all the things we "fail to understand."

Maybe you should sit this one out and let the adults talk.
 
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You wrote a lot of words but did not even address my post. blaming trump on the dems is idiocy. Dems don't vote in republican primaries.

And I hope the irony isn't lost on you. For weeks, you lectured us about an impending red wave. That didn't happen, not even close. But it has not humbled you one bit. You still act like a sanctimonious prick, constantly telling me and others all the things we "fail to understand."

Maybe you should sit this one out and let the adults talk.

Actually a number of Democrats did vote in Republican primaries this time They wanted to nominate candidates they thought would be easy to beat. And their strategy worked along with all the money that was spent to promote those candidates by Democratic party supporters and their political action committees.

You don't make a lot of post on this board about politics that don't include mention of Trump. So he was central in your thoughts about this midterm election.

I thought the election would go a lot better but I don't believe I was ever lecturing about a red wave. No one can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory like the Republican party can.

I did estimate that the Republicans would end up with about 53 seats in the Senate and a 30 to 35 seat gain in the house. I was wrong. You were right about abortion being a bigger issue than I thought it would be. We're all wrong from time to time.
 
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