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"Rich Men North of Richmond" - Oliver Anthony

ehhhhh.. We need to get back to the days of 'professional politicians'. You know, the ones who "act presidential" but screw us over and get us into taxpayer funded wars for decades at a time.

I miss those days.

I'll take a hard pass on that. Thank you. Prefer something far more aspirational.
 
I just took it as a message that us (middle class) are always getting crapped on.
We are getting completely ****ed. Yah the government could do better by not balancing the budget on our backs and always bailing out the millionaires.
 
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I am so confused. I thought you guys didn’t like it when musicians enrich themselves while being critical of America and the opportunities available to them and their cohort.

Conservative media was fired up about Kendrick Lamar, Childish Gambino, Beyoncé, Common, etc.

What is different about this guy?
He was stating truth and facts, whereas those others were lying??
 
The message in the song is unfortunately very true, but damn if the song itself isn't one of the worst songs ever. I can't listen to that dude sing more than 2 words without wanting to pierce my eardrums. He does that whiny, voice-cracking fake singing that people who can't sing do to make it sound like they can sing. Like singing falsetto except in a country song.
 
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The message in the song is unfortunately very true, but damn if the song itself isn't one of the worst songs ever. I can't listen to that dude sing more than 2 words without wanting to pierce my eardrums. He does that whiny, voice-cracking fake singing that people who can't sing do to make it sound like they can sing. Like singing falsetto except in a country song.
Everyone has their own taste. Just got back from some time in Banner Elk. Lots of music that sounds just like this. Had a live band at the 5506' Skybar and man the music was good and air refreshing as always!

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Lol wait this guy blames welfare queens for his poor lot in life? What an idiot and a helpful fool for the elite.
 
My favorite line was when he said if you're 5 foot 3 and weigh 300 pounds muh taxes shouldn't have to pay for your bag of Fudge Rounds.

I think that's an old John Lennon line actually. Powerful stuff.
Is he referencing Lizzo?? Or Lizzo-ites?
 
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Sir hes got a great voice and a dumb take
I mean it’s a young guy singing about problems that exist through his perspective. It’s original and shows some level of artistry and emotion - generally what I want my music to do. Are some of his views misaligned with mine? Absolutely. Jason isbell has turned into a whiny, emotional and intellectual wreck of a human. Still respect his artistry. I just wish he’d do more drugs.

Also - and this is not directed at you - but, the predictability of certain folks being in here saying exactly what they’ve said is hilarious/pathetic.
 
Unrelated to song but just got back from visiting my brother in Richmond. I strongly encourage anyone to check out the city. Pretty awesome place with tons of historic architecture.
For how long? I used to work there when I was in Medical sales. Surprised those statues and Civil War momuments haven't been destroyed.
 
I mean it’s a young guy singing about problems that exist through his perspective. It’s original and shows some level of artistry and emotion - generally what I want my music to do. Are some of his views misaligned with mine? Absolutely. Jason isbell has turned into a whiny, emotional and intellectual wreck of a human. Still respect his artistry. I just wish he’d do more drugs.

Also - and this is not directed at you - but, the predictability of certain folks being in here saying exactly what they’ve said is hilarious/pathetic.
Well, my take is the guy is being covered apparently by Matt Walsh, Ben Shipiro etc. So he's going to be wealthy. I actually know people in the biz and they've told me that a California republican flew out to NC to have him record the song and then pumped it back to the republican internet machine. This guy telling me this has been a producer in this area for 20 years... I don't know why I wouldn't believe him but its completely anecdotal. It makes me question the authenticity of the whole thing... However, I will stop short of calling him completely astroturfed. But yah, whining about poor people eating fudge rounds in your worker class song, smells really wrong.
I mean yes the elites are a problem.... but why is he kicking down? Just bigotry? idk.
 
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Well, my take is the guy is being covered apparently by Matt Walsh, Ben Shipiro etc. So he's going to be wealthy. I actually know people in the biz and they've told me that a California republican flew out to NC to have him record the song and then pumped it back to the republican internet machine. This guy telling me this has been a producer in this area for 20 years... I don't know why I wouldn't believe him but its completely anecdotal. It makes me question the authenticity of the whole thing... However, I will stop short of calling him completely astroturfed. But yah, whining about poor people eating fudge rounds in your worker class song, smells really wrong.
I mean yes the elites are a problem.... but why is he kicking down? Just bigotry? idk.
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Well, my take is the guy is being covered apparently by Matt Walsh, Ben Shipiro etc. So he's going to be wealthy. I actually know people in the biz and they've told me that a California republican flew out to NC to have him record the song and then pumped it back to the republican internet machine. This guy telling me this has been a producer in this area for 20 years... I don't know why I wouldn't believe him but its completely anecdotal. It makes me question the authenticity of the whole thing... However, I will stop short of calling him completely astroturfed. But yah, whining about poor people eating fudge rounds in your worker class song, smells really wrong.
I mean yes the elites are a problem.... but why is he kicking down? Just bigotry? idk.
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Nothing. You can like the song, nothing wrong with that. Taste is subjective, after all.

It's just a tweet explaining that the song support wasn't grassroots/organic, and that it was created solely by Bongino/Walsh and other RW operatives to gin up discussion/controversy.
And I’m sure you believe it
 
But yah, whining about poor people eating fudge rounds in your worker class song, smells really wrong.
I mean yes the elites are a problem.... but why is he kicking down? Just bigotry? idk.

I’m not a big fan of the song, but this isn’t the point. It’s that he’s taxed to death and those taxes pay for things like fudge rounds for fatasses on welfare. That’s probably accurate.
 
I’m not a big fan of the song, but this isn’t the point. It’s that he’s taxed to death and those taxes pay for things like fudge rounds for fatasses on welfare. That’s probably accurate.
Fudge rounds for fat people aint even making it into the 1% of line items. The dod hasnt passed an audit since when? Why focus on poor people being the problem? Thats way crazy for a class song.
 
Fudge rounds for fat people aint even making it into the 1% of line items. The dod hasnt passed an audit since when? Why focus on poor people being the problem? Thats way crazy for a class song.

Well we spend 20% of our total federal budget on welfare - $9,000 per household - so it’s not an insignificant cost for taxpayers. Some of us pay far more than that to support these programs. I pay 10s of thousands of dollars per year for welfare programs.

The message is that people are frustrated with having their hard-earned money taken from them and then redistributed to others in an inefficient and ineffective way.
 
Well we spend 20% of our total federal budget on welfare - $9,000 per household - so it’s not an insignificant cost for taxpayers. Some of us pay far more than that to support these programs. I pay 10s of thousands of dollars per year for welfare programs.

The message is that people are frustrated with having their hard-earned money taken from them and then redistributed to others in an inefficient and ineffective way.

and, of course scotch, all $9000 per household is misappropriated and spent on frivolous things such that we should just decide that welfare helps nobody and, anyways, **** those poor people I want my money!

you think churches do better at distributing that money? non-profits?
 
and, of course scotch, all $9000 per household is misappropriated and spent on frivolous things such that we should just decide that welfare helps nobody and, anyways, **** those poor people I want my money!

you think churches do better at distributing that money? non-profits?

Didn’t say it all is. Some of it is worthwhile. Some is wasted. Some is given to deserving people. Some is given to undeserving people. And I wish welfare only cost me $9k/yr.
 
There has been anti-goverment songs since the 60s. The fake outrage from the government lovers on the left is ridiculous.
 
There has been anti-goverment songs since the 60s. The fake outrage from the government lovers on the left is ridiculous.
The anti war movement has 0 to do with welfare. Are you seriously comparing it? One was spawned by the people in opposition to the media and government propaganda. One was a created message by the president of the united states. Regan and his goons invented the welfare queen and you rubes have been chasing your tail ever since.
 
I’m not a big fan of the song, but this isn’t the point. It’s that he’s taxed to death and those taxes pay for things like fudge rounds for fatasses on welfare. That’s probably accurate.
If that guy is making shitty money like he claims, then his effective tax rate is below 5%. And the biggest categories are social security (which he will benefit greatly from), Medicare and Medicaid, which also would benefit him greatly, and defense, which I assume he is in support of.

I genuinely think it’s a beautiful song but the lyrics are laughable.
 
If that guy is making shitty money like he claims, then his effective tax rate is below 5%. And the biggest categories are social security (which he will benefit greatly from), Medicare and Medicaid, which also would benefit him greatly, and defense, which I assume he is in support of.

I genuinely think it’s a beautiful song but the lyrics are laughable.

I don’t disagree that people paying single digit effective rates and bitching about it - or especially bitching about other people needing to pay more - are full of shit.
 
I don’t disagree that people paying single digit effective rates and bitching about it - or especially bitching about other people needing to pay more - are full of shit.
I think the fact theirs a maximum contribution to social security is beyond fiscally irresponsible
 
I think the fact theirs a maximum contribution to social security is beyond fiscally irresponsible

You and I have gone back and forth on this and I showed you the math that demonstrates a consistent increase in marginal income+SS tax even with the cap in place. It’s a safety net program and once someone has reached the cap, they have fully funded their obligation.
 
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