Trump derangement syndrome is now expecting Trump to do the things he said he was going to do?
Serious tariff question
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The voters did not expect his policies to be effective in 1 day or one month.
That is not rational behavior
Sigh, ok man, no matter how many times I've explained it, you're only going to hear what you want. Let's move on
I hope you are right. If not, I’ll await the explanation.
Hope you make a killing on the futures
It may not be rational. But it is duplicitous to allow one side off the hook of their exact words but hold the other side to a different standard.
This is why all politicians are losers
What, specifically, are you expecting of Canada in regards to how they treat us an an ally and trade partner? And not in regards to how they run their own internal politics, left or right. It seems this move from Trump has created some unity between Canadian conservatives and liberals, as an aside.
Anybody that’s against Tariffs, including the Fake News Wall Street Journal, and Hedge Funds, is only against them because these people or entities are controlled by China, or other foreign or domestic companies. Anybody that loves and believes in the United States of America is in favor of Tariffs. They should have never ended, in favor of the Income Tax System, in 1913. The response to Tariffs has been FANTASTIC!
Donald Trump Truth Social Post 06:37 PM EST 02/02/25
BOOM! JD Vance just perfectly explained why Trump is taking such drastic actions with tariffs!
“The problem with the this whole idea that they're gonna retaliate is they have already been taking advantage of America for decades.”
“The retaliation is Donald Trump saying ‘no more’.
“We're not gonna be taken advantage of anymore, and I think it's important the president is doing what he's doing.”
So how has Canada been taking advantage of us for decades?
The “Tariff Lobby,” headed by the Globalist, and always wrong, Wall Street Journal, is working hard to justify Countries like Canada, Mexico, China, and too many others to name, continue the decades long RIPOFF OF AMERICA, both with regard to TRADE, CRIME, AND POISONOUS DRUGS that are allowed to so freely flow into AMERICA. THOSE DAYS ARE OVER! The USA has major deficits with Canada, Mexico, and China (and almost all countries!), owes 36 Trillion Dollars, and we’re not going to be the “Stupid Country” any longer. MAKE YOUR PRODUCT IN THE USA AND THERE ARE NO TARIFFS! Why should the United States lose TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SUBSIDIZING OTHER COUNTRIES, and why should these other countries pay a small fraction of the cost of what USA citizens pay for Drugs and Pharmaceuticals, as an example? THIS WILL BE THE GOLDEN AGE OF AMERICA! WILL THERE BE SOME PAIN? YES, MAYBE (AND MAYBE NOT!). BUT WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AND IT WILL ALL BE WORTH THE PRICE THAT MUST BE PAID. WE ARE A COUNTRY THAT IS NOW BEING RUN WITH COMMON SENSE — AND THE RESULTS WILL BE SPECTACULAR!!!
Donald Trump Truth Social Post 08:02 AM EST 02/02/25
Just love how uneducated both Americans and Canadians truly are.
Here are just some historic tariffs Canada hits America with.
Milk: 270%
Cheese: 245%
Butter: 298%
Chicken: 238%
Sausages: 69.9%
Barley seed: 57.8%
Bovine/meat: 26.5%
Cars: 25%
HVAC: 45%
Vacuums: 35%
Cable boxes: 35%
TVs: 45%
Steel: 25%
Aluminum: 45%
Copper: 48%
Take a guess how much financial aide the U.S. sends Canada EVERY YEAR and how much military defense $$$$ we provide?
BREAKING: Two of Canada's fastest-growing food companies are now planning to move their operations to the United States to avoid paying President Trump's tariffs.
Mid-Day Squares was initially planned to expand its factory in Montreal. However, with 70 percent of its sales in the United States, they are now considering expanding to Ohio, Wisconsin, and Missouri.
“We need the U.S. as a business. It’s critical.” - Mid-Day Squares Founder Jake Karls.
Flourish Pancakes is planning to do the same as well.
THE TARIFFS ARE WORKING!
When Canada talks about cutting off oil to America, let me break this down for you.
Below is a map of the pipelines that carry energy for Canada. As you can see many come into America. The one you need to pay attention to is the Energy East line. This was supposed to be built, but Canada's leftists canceled it because of "climate issues."
As you can see, the only way for the Western part of Canada to get oil to the Eastern part of Canada is to send it through America.
Trump knows EXACTLY what he is doing.
It’s been a while since I studied this (2015? Whenever the big pipeline license drama was going on) but IIRC this isn’t how import taxes on pipelines work. If the oil doesn’t stop here then it’s not an import. We import more oil from Canada than anywhere else in the world and with the current state of global demand with the Ukraine conflict, there’s ample outside market that they can take that to. Canada has much more leverage to hurt us than we do them when it comes to oil if this gets escalated to the point where we’re shutting down their transborder pipelines.
Glad I own a Subaru and don’t have to drive the truck but we feel fuel costs in everything, especially food and agriculture.
Futures up 45 points off the low. Took some profits, but staying long because I think the tariffs will be positive for the US.
Everyone remember what happened the first time Trump won.
On election night in 2016 when he won the market sold off bigly. Only to have a great rally over the next 4 years.
Yes they do. That is an idiotic statement. "Tariffs are a zero sum game" is true if it happens in a vacuum. But reality is not a vacumm and tariffs don't have to be a zero sum game. There are several papers out now, that you can use AI to help decipher, on this topic.
And, since we are the party of common sense i will help you out. Common sense tells you that if one economy dwarfs the size of another economy, they will win the trade war.
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I think this is important information. Lets lay ALL the cards on the table for everyone to see. For example, almost every country uses tarifs. The LLM i consulted could not find a country that does not use tariffs at all.
Why would I be ashamed about 38mpg on an AWD? I’m not a beta that has to use my daily driver as a proxy for my manhood.
It's time for us to stop protecting Canada with our military unless they pay billions for our protection.
For too long they've leeched off our super power status and failed to even build a top 20 country military. They're ranked 32.
Their Navy has 8200 regular forces and 4,100 primary reserve sailors. They have zero battleships, submarines, or any active aircraft carriers.
Why do we have to spend trillions to protect them when they put little effort or money into building a top world fighting force themselves?
BTW - I love Canadian people but their government is a joke. Trudeau has destroyed the country from within.
I bet that highway mileage makes for great small talk with the other hippies and lesbians.
This is such a terrible tweet. She is a Bishop in the Episcopal Church. She doesn't run the ministries.
I love getting butthurt over a Christian asking someone to be kind to the poor and weak. Such a novel idea for a Christian.
MAGAs attacking a bishop for promoting the very sentiments that Jesus preached about tells me all I need to know about the "Christian right."
How do you define win? Will the American economy be "less harmed" than Mexico, Canada, and China? Yes. Will Americans be better off? No. I am all about targeted tariffs. I am all about common sense. But there is no common sense in these blanket tariffs.
Some of these wild claims being made about tariffs are laughable at best. This is probably (hopefully) a political stunt.
If the result is less drugs, less illegals, less people on the terror watch list coming across more products made in the USA,then we're getting helped. Maybe Canada ups its defense spending and builds a destroyer or a cruiser or whatever to help out the team (and provides for the maintenance tail), what about if they buy some F35s to add to the defense of NA or pays for some missile defense? We're helped. If we in this country were unified and protesting the fact that we're getting screwed over and to boycott thigs made in canada or mexico, we'd be past this even faster then we are going to be. Trump will talk with both Mex and Can and we'll all work this out.
So now Mexico is pledging to deploy 10,000 troops to the US border if big bad Uncle Sam holds off on those tariffs while there is discussion on a wider deal. America is better off, and the the democrats can rest easy that the price of guacamole for the super bowl will not rise.
It's amazing how fast behavior can change when daddy comes back home.
It's amazing how fast behavior can change when daddy comes back home.
Since Trump has stated that he doesn't want to have to use tariffs and they are a negotiaing tool, winning is getting what you want in a negotiation.
Yes, Americans will be better off with less fentanyl and drugs coming into the country. Thousand upon thousands have been killed by fentanyl.
And, it's already working. Mexico just sent 10,000 troops to their border. And guess what, Trump already removed their Tariff.
You know who didnt do that? The Biden administration. Because they were weak and inept.
I wonder if Canada is feeling lonely right now?
I think someone might be reaching for a phone pretty soon if they haven't already.
If he uses it as a negotiating tool and it works, great. It's not really a position of strength though nor is it very feasible. It may get Canada/Mexico to something that's mostly symbolic/political. However, China doesn't care. They don't have to worry about elections and know Americans have short memories. This isn't savvy and just seems like something that could help Democrats have success in 2026.
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